Most defining event during our lifetimes

Zebra3 · 21-01-2009 02:20PM

Derry, 30 January 1972.

The murder (and subsequent cover up) of unarmed pro-democracy demonstators by occupying British forces led to a flood of recruits to the resistance movement which prolonged the war by roughly two decades.

Zebra3 · 21-01-2009 02:22PM

walshb wrote: »

Yes, and there was plenty of non U.S lives lost in the 9/11 attack!

It was an attack on humanity and the free world.

That's not to say the 'free world' are immune or infallible!

The "free" world that murdered 3,000,000 in Vietnam? Gave immunity to nazi and Japanese war criminals? Supported evil dictators like Saddam? Supports the ethnic cleansing of Palestine? :rolleyes:

mike65 · 21-01-2009 02:26PM

Jebus, would Zebra3 would you ever keep your politics off this thread!

Zebra3 · 21-01-2009 02:28PM

mike65 wrote: »

Jebus, would Zebra3 would you ever keep your politics off this thread!

No, not that I've mention my politics, just stating facts.

If they make you uncomfortable, tough.

faceman · 21-01-2009 02:30PM

Keeping it irish....

The Good Friday Agreement.
When the Irish Film Censor became the Irish Film Classification Office. While it may have been a passing news story, symbollically it represents a great deal in Ireland

Its before my time a few years but I also think June Levine's infamous train journey to Northern Ireland in 1971 was a defining moment. google it.

On the world stage, that hasnt been mentioned yet:
The genocide in Rwanda. Chaos insued, the world did feck all.

stovelid · 21-01-2009 02:39PM

walshb wrote: »

It was an attack on humanity and the free world.

Any terrorist attack that takes human life is an attack on humanity. It's not subject to the arbitrary appellation assigned to certain parts of the world.

walshb · 21-01-2009 03:04PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

The "free" world that murdered 3,000,000 in Vietnam? Gave immunity to nazi and Japanese war criminals? Supported evil dictators like Saddam? Supports the ethnic cleansing of Palestine? :rolleyes:

Did you not read the part of my post that said the 'free world' was not immune?:rolleyes:

Hey, we are all ultimately part of a free world; I didn't support those
actions you mentioned, nor did you I assume.

walshb · 21-01-2009 03:04PM

stovelid wrote: »

Any terrorist attack that takes human life is an attack on humanity. It's not subject to the arbitrary appellation assigned to certain parts of the world.

True, did I say otherwise?

9/11 was the single deadliest terrorist attack in history; on any one day!

Hence, why IMO it was the most tragic and far reaching!

SAVE_ME.222 · 21-01-2009 03:32PM

1993 - Jurassic Park

What a movie.

starn · 21-01-2009 03:46PM

kevpants wrote: »

The 9/11 vs Tsunami thing reminds me of some comedian who I can't rememebr talking about how he was touring around South America in September 2001 and was in some little shop with a crappy portable TV behind the counter.

He saw what was happening and thought "Wow, these south american countries are fukced up", and kind of shook his head and went to leave.

Then he realised where this was happening, New York! And that the people in the buildings spoke english! And that this was THE GREATEST CATASTROPHE THE WORLD HAS EVER WITNESSED!!!!11!!eleven!!!1

That would be Stewart Lee. Very funy bloke.

Raiser · 21-01-2009 03:49PM

Xposé on TV3

citytillidie · 21-01-2009 04:01PM

15 April 1989 changed football forever
23 August 1989 Berlin Wall falling starting the end of Eastern bloc European Communism
1 December 1992 USSR falls apart.
14 August 1994 1st IRA Ceasefire
10 April 1998 Goodfriday Agreement
11 September 2001 changed the world forever
20 January 2009 1st African-American US president.

anplaya · 21-01-2009 04:19PM

i always seem to remember omagh simply as my brothers birthday is the same date as the bombings

Nodin · 21-01-2009 04:22PM

Raiser wrote: »

Xposé on TV3

Certainly it has pricked my conscience, particularily in regard to my attitudes towards painting mutton as orangey lamb.

Rowley Birkin QC · 21-01-2009 04:28PM

Saipan.

That time Mick McCarthy and the FAI fcuked up our only oppurtunity to date to win the World Cup.:pac:

tallaght01 · 21-01-2009 04:35PM

Nodin wrote: »

And not the Tsunami that killed somewhere between 190 - 290,000 thousand people.

Don't forget Rwanda.

IvyTheTerrible · 21-01-2009 04:44PM

bigkev49 wrote: »

Saipan.

That time Mick McCarthy and the FAI fcuked up our only oppurtunity to date to win the World Cup.:pac:

Because we would have won it if Keano stuck around??

Nodin · 21-01-2009 04:47PM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Don't forget Rwanda.

To be honest, that one seemed to slowly trickle out, a lot of it after the event. Bad-dire-nightmare....As a result it seemed almost 'historical' to me by the time I knew what had gone on, sort of losing a certain immediacy. Mind you fvck all has changed in Africa because of it. There was about 5/6 million killed in the Congo between 1998 and 03/04 I think.

tallaght01 · 21-01-2009 04:53PM

Nodin wrote: »

To be honest, that one seemed to slowly trickle out, a lot of it after the event. Bad-dire-nightmare....As a result it seemed almost 'historical' to me by the time I knew what had gone on, sort of losing a certain immediacy. Mind you fvck all has changed in Africa because of it. There was about 5/6 million killed in the Congo between 1998 and 03/04 I think.

No, I agree, but it was still one of the biggest tragedies of our lifetime, regardless of how the media covered it.

Having said that, there's still genocide going on in Darfur. I don't think the history books will be very kind to our generation, for letting some bad **** go on, while going to war with other countries for fack all.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 21-01-2009 04:58PM

I don't think 9/11 has changed anything for me other than hassle carrying liquids onto planes. THere'd already been terrorist attacks in America, that one was just more spectacular really.

I'd go with Good Friday Agreement. Born in 1985, remember hearing on the news growing up what seemd like everyday someone in Northern Ireland had been shot or blown up.

rossie1977 · 21-01-2009 05:30PM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

I don't think 9/11 has changed anything for me other than hassle carrying liquids onto planes. THere'd already been terrorist attacks in America, that one was just more spectacular really.

there had also been wars in iraq and invasions of afghanistan in my lifetime by russia. another war in iraq would have happened with or without 9/11, flying through american airports today and pre-9/11 doesn't feel a whole lot different, some are a little more strict.

faceman · 21-01-2009 06:23PM

It would seem that modern day history books are written by the media these days.

Zebra3 · 21-01-2009 06:28PM

walshb wrote: »

True, did I say otherwise?

9/11 was the single deadliest terrorist attack in history; on any one day!

Hence, why IMO it was the most tragic and far reaching!

Not true.

citytillidie wrote: »

15 April 1989 changed football forever

In Britain, yes. Elsewhere, no.

citytillidie wrote: »

23 August 1989 Berlin Wall falling starting the end of Eastern bloc European Communism
1 December 1992 USSR falls apart.
14 August 1994 1st IRA Ceasefire

You must use a different calendar to the rest of us.

An Fear Aniar · 21-01-2009 07:29PM

asdasd wrote: »

This new pathological "love" of a declining world power because they have rectified internal mistakes with regards to discrimination ( something which should be irrelevant to the rest of the world) is as nonsensical as the pathological hate of the country.

I think Obama's election signals more than redressing internal injustices in the US - he also helps bridge the gap between the Developed Nations (white folks mostly) and what used to be called the Third World (mostly brown or yella folks).

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