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Should I give blessing to watch porn?

  • 19-01-2009 01:26PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi, I was just looking for some advice on the following:

    Last year I discovered a lot of pornographic images on my partners pc, as well as plenty of pornstar names on his google. At the time I was very upset over this and my partner decided to stop using this.

    Now please don't all attack me saying how there's nothing wrong with using porn and saying that I have major issues as I'm totally aware of this and do indeed feel insecure at the best of times.

    My question is, as he is only abstaining ( and I'm pretty sure he is) for my sake but probably not cause he wants to, should I give him my blessing to start using it again?

    I guess I don't really want to seem like I'm bullying him to stop. If he did use it I would secretly be upset - but I guess it's not really my place to say it to him if the issue lies with me?

    Any opinions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Its pretty simple, the majority of men do watch pornographic material. Better to do so with your partners blessing, but it will probably happen anyway, even if he tells you otherwise.. why not watch with him??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 757 ✭✭✭milod


    Only priests can give blessings... tbh it sounds a little patronising when you say that - a little like letting the dog off the leash for a bit of a runabout in the park...

    Why not operate a "don't ask, don't tell" policy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    My question is, as he is only abstaining ( and I'm pretty sure he is)





    I'd put a fairly large sum on this being the opposite actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭sitstill


    I'm sorry, but show me a man who does not watch porn.

    He will watch it with or without your "blessing".


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Your other half watching pornography has absolutely no reflection on his feelings for you, sexual or otherwise. You need to try to stop viewing it as a personal slight.

    Unless it's negatively affecting his work life or home life with you (in a way other than you disapproving) there's no problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Your blessing?

    Tbh, he'll have just become more careful in deleting internet history, rather than completely abstaining from porn.

    I'd just leave him do what he's interested in doing tbh - There's far more unsocial and worrying interests a man could have than having a look through some porn.

    I don't think blessing's come into it really :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,772 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    My question is, as he is only abstaining ( and I'm pretty sure he is) for my sake but probably not cause he wants to, should I give him my blessing to start using it again?
    It's possible that his abstention from porn was not such a big deal for him. It's also possible that he is still looking at porn, but is now more discrete about it.

    In my mind, giving your blessing that he can look at porn or not is not far removed from giving your blessing that he masturbate - after all, when a man or woman in a relationship is masturbating, he's probably not going to be fantasizing about the person they're in the relationship with. And if anyone thinks they should be able to stop their partner from masturbation, then it's time to re-evaluate boundaries, or for them to find a new partner, TBH.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Oh he is so still looking at porn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭kayos


    Yet another reason why new versions of browsers are coming with a “privacy mode” which makes cleaning up your browsing history uber easy…..They say its for online banking etc etc but lets be honest its for porn. As the song says “The internet is for porn, so grab your **** and double click”. Or to quote Dr Cox from Scrubs “if they removed all the porn from the internet there would only be one site left. www.bringbacktheporn.com”

    Any way watch it with him or let him off to watch it himself (he is most likely doing this any way).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭andrewh5


    Your blessing?!?
    A) you are not a priest.
    B) he is an adult so you can't tell him what to do!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭lolli


    In fairness your boyfriend does not need your blessing to look at what he wants online its his choice, i'd be more worried if I seen he was looking up dating websites or something. :) Theres a lot worse things he could be doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭bubonicus


    Hi OP,

    Just curious, but has your sex life changed in anyway from when he was looking at porn, to not looking at it?

    Does he have a higher sex drive than you?

    Mastubarting is not cheating it's natural. People masterbate to fulfill a sexual need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Yeah I won't say anything about your issues; but if you are able to "allow" him (and I don't think you had the right to ban him in the first place) watch porn, then do. Just let it go :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    andrewh5 wrote: »
    Your blessing?!?
    A) you are not a priest.
    B) he is an adult so you can't tell him what to do!

    a) Giving someone your blessing is a completely standard "turn of phrase" and you don't need to be a priest to use it, oh great lord of pedantry
    b) agree 100% with this one :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You've recognised the problem is your own insecurities, and this is the cause.

    It is your insecurities that led you to feeling hurt when you discovered that he was a red blooded male after all.

    Instead of acting the martyre, which you would be doing by painting on a big smile and pretending everything is okay, why don't you take ownership of your personal issue?

    You've mentioned you are aware you're insecure at the best of times. It's good that you recognise that, however if you want to really approach the issue and have it done with from your life, it's no good to say 'oh well, i'm insecure'. There are plenty of ways and means out there for overcoming limitations, and questioning the kind of thoughts that go on in our heads that interfere with our relationships.

    And going back to your boyfriend, maybe you could talk to him more about the issue. Does he really know the full story as to why you 'banned' him ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭diamondp


    just get some porn and watch it with him and make his day. cant believe there is still people who think porn is bad. as long as he's not looking at underage or animal stuf then i would class that as just normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    bubonicus wrote: »
    Hi OP,

    Just curious, but has your sex life changed in anyway from when he was looking at porn, to not looking at it?

    Does he have a higher sex drive than you?

    Mastubarting is not cheating it's natural. People masterbate to fulfill a sexual need.

    OP here,

    No it hasn't, we have similar drives.

    It doesn't interfere with our relationship.

    I know it's natural etc etc, and as much as you try and drill it in my head, I cannot help how I feel.

    I gather 'blessing' may not have been the wiset choice of word. I do not mean to be patronising at all!

    Since our discussion we have lived together. He has never been alone on the pc. (It's in the sitting room.) So I know that he has abstained - even if it is just through lack of opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You've recognised the problem is your own insecurities,
    and this is the cause.

    It is your insecurities that led you to feeling hurt when you discovered that he was a red blooded male after all.

    Instead of acting the martyre, which you would be doing by painting on a big smile and pretending everything is okay, why don't you take ownership of your personal issue?

    You've mentioned you are aware you're insecure at the best of times. It's good that you recognise that, however if you want to really approach the issue and have it done with from your life, it's no good to say 'oh well, i'm insecure'. There are plenty of ways and means out there for overcoming limitations, and questioning the kind of thoughts that go on in our heads that interfere with our relationships.

    And going back to your boyfriend, maybe you could talk to him more about the issue. Does he really know the full story as to why you 'banned' him ?

    OP again.

    Thanks for your advice.

    I know full well I cannot tell my partner what he can and can't do, but seing as we're in a long term relationship, matters where one feels strongly about should be discussed.

    It wasn't the case of my saying - "Right, porn is banned"

    It was just the result of the discussion at the time.

    Well I go through phases where I think I'd be ok with it, but sooner or later I would start thinking that it's a reflection on me - ie. I'm not good enough/ attractive enough.

    PS: I suggested watching porn together at the time, but he wasn't interested)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Mulan


    Watching watching watching all day long I'd say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭R.D. aka MR.D


    hi op,

    you have a right to be annoyed if you feel uncomfortable with him watching pornography. you don't have to find pornography acceptable just because society tells us you should. many people consider pornography to be harmful to women and the attitude the world has to them.

    however i think the poster who suggested a don't ask don't tell policy was right. this is the best way to go. your boyfriend is a grown man and makes his own decisions.

    its not a reflection on you at all, no need to feel insecure.

    most men make it part of their daily rotine, and don't see any problems with it.

    just explain your feelings and draw a line under it.

    its his choice then.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP as you can tell from the moral bankruptcy of the posters above, the internet has made porn the norm for the internet generation - me included, but something being the norm does not make it right.

    It took a while for me to realise how ****ed up it was for me to do that to my long term girlfriend and it has affected our relationship for a long time. Best thing you can do is ask him how he would feel for you to watch and pleasure yourself to attractive men etc.

    Don't for one second think he his simply getting a sexual release, because trust me he would think of you if that was the case.

    I'm sorry to say but what he's doing is comparing every inch of you to the women he is watching and wishing he was with a girl with bigger boobs, a bigger ass or a nicer body etc. I know I did it myself.

    Again a lot of men genuninely want to stop looking at porn but its everywhere online and can be very difficult to stop.

    You really need to tell him how you feel about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    Try to interest him in watching amateur porn uploaded by normal people/ home videos. Then you can feel secure knowing that it's probably not degrading and not contributing as much to the porno industry. Maybe he'll find some interesting techniques from real girls that aren't just faking their O and making eyes at the camera?

    Also, there is the fact that amateur porn doesn't usually have fake titted, blonde, skinny sluts caked in make up. So you don't need to feel insecure that you don't measure up.

    Try again at watching porn together. Imho, porn makes you hornier, you get more sex. Maybe make your own... Everyone's a winner! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    OP again.

    Thanks for your advice.

    I know full well I cannot tell my partner what he can and can't do, but seing as we're in a long term relationship, matters where one feels strongly about should be discussed.

    It wasn't the case of my saying - "Right, porn is banned"

    It was just the result of the discussion at the time.

    Well I go through phases where I think I'd be ok with it, but sooner or later I would start thinking that it's a reflection on me - ie. I'm not good enough/ attractive enough.

    PS: I suggested watching porn together at the time, but he wasn't interested)

    Well it's good to hear that you are being adult about it, it seemed like you had banned it as opposed to him doing it not to hurt your feelings, but even still, if it does hurt your feelings, you should allow it.

    The reason I think this is that, you can't help how you feel about it, which is fine, but, when you tell him how it makes you feel, he would feel like a total cnut if he was to watch porno knowing how you feel. That makes it basically unintentional emotional blackmail (emphasis on the unintentional, like I said, you can't help how you feel).

    Another thing is, it may be in the living room, but honestly, has he never been in the house alone, when he could have used it without you knowing, I find it unlikely that you are both always in the house at the same time..

    I would watch porno with my girl, and we would do stuff, but I also like to watch it just so I can (well you know what :P ) - perhaps he doesn't feel comfortable with you around when he is watching said porno because for most people "self abuse" (a horrible old term!) is a very private thing which they never want anyone to see, let alone become involved in..

    I say give him your blessing; you should know that if your sex life did not change after he stopped watching it, that your sex life is normal, he just wants to jerk off to some porno, which is a fairly typical male want, and if you say you are ok with it, even if you have reservations, I still think it's worthwhile.. he would be happier & nobody really suffers.. He wouldn't be with you if he didn't want to be & he wouldn't sleep with you if he wasn't interested in you in that manner.. you just need to realise that he likes you regardless of what odd sexual urges he needs to satisfy by watching porno :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom



    just explain your feelings and draw a line under it.

    its his choice then.
    yeah but like I said a moment ago, that's unintentional emotional blackmail, he would probably feel pretty damn guilty if he was doing it, knowing he was hurting her feelings.. that's not a decision at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Blubbles


    As someone said, he is going to watch is whether he tells you or not. At least if you talk to him about it he might understand where you are coming from.

    Watch it with him... it wil make it more fun!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭jessbeth


    I would agree with the don't ask, don't tell policy and tell him to clean up his cache and temporary files and not leave the evidence lying on the computer for you to see. Then theoretically once it's not an obsession he can do what he wants. I wouldn't agree with saying watch it with him. If you don't like it then don't watch it with him, just leave him to do his own thing on his own time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 justpaul


    Porn porn, it's the daily question on many's a discussion board. I bet there are at least 20 'my boyfriend is watching porn, what shall i do' questions posted around the world daily.

    the lads on the left reply with an "it's natural leave him alone" while the girls on the right sigh a "eeeuuuck" type response.

    Generalizing I know, there are more and more in the middle.

    My wife hates UFC and boxing, she know's I like it. So, when it's on, either I go to the room and watch it there, or she goes to bed. Simple.

    As for porn..

    Men and women are different; shock horror. they have different tastes and needs.

    Men have evolved from a tribal culture where sometimes they had many wives, hunting and fighting etc. etc.;

    to a modern world of monogamy, fidelity, and 'openly discussing every aspect of their psyche'..

    As for the 'he decided to stop' reply,. this can generally be interpretted as

    in his head, in a corner, he had to think; how do I get out of this, what does she want to hear, and glory be there it was; "I won't watch porn any more".

    What'll probably happen now, is you'll invade his privacy again, discover that he is in fact still watching porn, and feel decieved, lose faith, respect and trust in him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Reflector


    why not just leave it as it is, he may well be looking at porn when you are not around. You have shown your feelings on it.
    Maybe if you see him at it again you might be a little cooler about it and just say you are not a fan of it and leave it be, men like looking at porn just the same as women like looking at ridiculously terrible romantic comedys. You wouldn't tolerate him freaking out if you were watching a chick flick and he went crazy because it portrays a completely unrealistic image of a relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭pfishfood


    jessbeth wrote: »
    I would agree with the don't ask, don't tell policy and tell him to clean up his cache and temporary files and not leave the evidence lying on the computer for you to see. Then theoretically once it's not an obsession he can do what he wants. I wouldn't agree with saying watch it with him. If you don't like it then don't watch it with him, just leave him to do his own thing on his own time.

    Im tending to agree with the above and he probably does do it anyway. The fact that you've told him not to do it that would make him perhaps want to do it more you know the whole forbidden fruit thing.

    As for your insecurities you'll have to work past that for the sake of your relationship, does your partner not tell you that your beautiful and that he loves you?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭hot2def


    I'm sorry to say but what he's doing is comparing every inch of you to the women he is watching and wishing he was with a girl with bigger boobs, a bigger ass or a nicer body etc. I know I did it myself.

    I'm sorry you felt that way yourself, but you can't use that as proof that every other porn-user feels like you did/do.


    I like porn, I watch it a fair amount, I don't think I have ever compared my girlfriend to anyone I have seen in a porno, esp not while watching -who's brain is up to such a complex task right then?


    In fact,thinking about it now, I wish more girls in porno looked like my missus



    so quit frightening the OP with your mind-reading .


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