What exactly is it about Enda Kenny that makes us see him as a poor potential leader?

galwayrush wrote: »

I expect he is a nice guy, but i feel that any party leader who is there for a good few years and looses an election should move aside to help rebuild the party.

Well this country is well known for voting in the same crowd of eejits regardless of how badly they do. Its like an infection passed down in the genes. People vote what there parents vote etc. Never look outside the box and see what potential some others have to take lead.

Your point is flawed anyway. FG may have lost in the election but they came on in leaps and bounds compared to previous years and its well known that Enda has done very well for the party. There now hot on FFs heals and they know it.

Winning instantly isn't always everything - sometimes it takes a while, but you will succeed. If you don't first succeed, try again. He would be a coward to back down and leave just because he didn't manage to get into the General Election but he most certainly gave his party the ability to kick ass in the last GE.

PrivateEye wrote: »

An absolute failure when it comes to the media, he always comes across very wooden and like a complete gobsh!te. If Cowen proposed free ice-cream for everyone, Enda would give out about it. The reason the Tories (:rolleyes: ) are looking so set for victory in the next U.K elections is the strategy of "While Labour may be right on X, they're wrong on A,B,C" or "The following things need to be changed" etc.

Kenny moans. About everything. All the time.

He always comes across badly in photoshoots. See the one of him standing next to FGs 'How will you vote on Lisbon?' machine in Jervis Shopping Centre? Father Dougal stuff. They also reset the machine when the Níls went a bit high for their liking, which was hilarious in itself :pac:

**The above post about waffles is spot on.

Wooden, perhaps. Gob****e? No way. The only leader who has ever shown the ability to free flow without looking somewhat wooden is Bertie Ahern. Look where he got us, and look where he is now. Poison challis handed straight to Brian Cowen. Good to see he pulled out of leadership at the right time eh!

Regardless of how he appears to the media I think he hits the right areas with the public in recent years and his complaining often makes a lot of sense. The only leader who seems to speak out compared with the other eejits in hiding. Is it any wonder why don't do well in the elections.

Biggins wrote: »

* He comes across the media as a tame poodle without any bite.

* He rambles on about issues where he disagrees with FF (which is fair enough) but does not give equivalent oppositional strategic proposals in confrontation of a given situation.
(His reasons for this might be that he does not want to give too much away before he might get into power however this is NOT the time to be playing party politics)

* He is quick to give soundbites but disappears rapid if you ask him for something in detail or exactness.

Are you watching the BBC? :P

He rambles on a good bit and disagrees with FF a good bit (oddly enough, who would have thought the opposition would complain!) but I have been paying a bit more attention then I usually would recently and have to say he does seem to fight issues and make sense with some of his suggestions.

Nobody is perfect. You cant have it all tbf. Brian Cowen isn't much an improvement with his blabbering and stuttering away as if hes telling a pack of lies.

* He got the job at the time I suspect because no one wanted to step up then to stand in the firing line.

Did a damn good job so someone made a good decision. Its hard for other party's to beat the FF narrow minded voters who refuse to vote for anybody or consider anybody else. I think FG have done very well for themselves and will find the local elections this year interesting to see if their support will continue to grow, under Enda as leader of course.

Also, I have yet to see him being given the boot for doing such a crap job.

* His ability to evoke the public into some form of united opposition is floundering uselessly like a piece of paper bouncing from place to place in the wind - going where ever the direction of the wind is blowing from minute to minute - he going with it!

Was on RTE news a good bit over the last two days, outside in the very windy weather. Saw the interview in Limerick and seemed to be talking without paper. Unless someone managed to setup a TV which he was reading from. Or placards maybe. Seemed to be fairly rigid (or wooden as someone else pointed out). Thought he spoke well - tho clearly no Bertie. But who is!

* His credentials are generally unknown. What are his exact qualifications? (this should apply to all leaders - What qualifies skills-wise them to be placed in government office?)

Good question. Must look into that.

* He never effectively faces down Cowan & Co in the Dail but backs off every time.

Watched how the different party's were shouting at Cowen & Co. over the budget and the boys got a very very rough going by others including Enda. Didn't see him back down at all there, he went straight for him and refused to stop despite being told to. I remember the news, and cowen, commenting on how FG specifically spoke to him and it wasn't all good.

* He nit picks over semantics when in fact he should be sticking to the principles, causes and solutions of any one single problem.

Which he has been doing.

* He should pick a direction, a policy, an idea and stick with it

Why? The current government are a shambles. They made a balls of everything and cant seem to be working on a fix that works. If he focuses on just the one issue every time it will be boring and voters will see him as "The chap who winges about the same thing over and over". Rather, if he picks a variety of issues which hit home people will see him as one who isn't afraid to speak out and speaks on various issues.

* He offers no clear clarification as to what, where and when he is different from what has gone before and what is possibly coming next - which still looks the same...

and that's just for starters!

No idea what you meant.

I get the feeling your one of the narrow minded people who vote FF, only FF and refuse to see any party other then FF no matter how wrong they are. Seems a very anti-FG/Enda Kenny attitude with little room for consideration. Me on the other hand has an open mind on FG and other party's (tho not FF but I wouldn't be that against FF as FF voters are against others. If that makes sense? :P).

Biggins wrote: »

This alone from a PR perspective is dire. Sorry but it is.
PR photo mentality of maybe kissing babies, holding ice creams and grinning constantly for the camera does not do well for the man.

I might WANT him to take over, we need someone to take over but that someone needs to get their act together in todays more media awareness population.

brianthebard: I'm sorry if you don't like my answers - a question was posed - I like the rest, answered.
I don't hate the man, I don't like the man, on him alone I am truly neutral.
I list where his possible PR faults lie.

He should be able to get himself elected at the next election.
Anyone should IF they get their act together effectively.

Seriously, are you joking? People complain hes rigid, timber or whatever. The minute he relaxes and has a bit of craic they jump on him.

Can the man do ANYTHING right? Politicians don't always have to do publicity stunts that work and can do them in any shape of form. I think its a good thing that he doesn't do the same crap FF do.

I do agree that they definitely have a chance of getting elected if they work hard enough. All depends how FF do until the next election. Good to see he wont call an election now anyway.

Aidric wrote: »

Perish the thought of this bumbling clown as Taoiseach. I saw him up close and observed him amongst a crowd whilst he was canvassing in the last general election. He has no warmth or charisma in terms of working a crowd, a trait very important as a leader. And before anyone jumps down my throat yes he obviously does it well enough in Mayo to be continually elected for such a long time. It doesn't transfer elsewhere though. His public speaking and engagement with a crowd are also poor. Those leader debates at the time of the general election marked him out as a weaklink. For the future good of Fine Gael they should elect Richard Bruton as leader in time for a good run at the next general election.

Seen the chap many a time and found him the complete opposite. Hes completely different off stage then when hes on stage. Only leader, bar Bertie, iv seen hang around after a speech or interview.

Bruton has to stay as he is. He is excellent at this post and if he was to leave it, then nobody could possibly replace him. That's the man you need in charge right now, not that smiley "I couldn't give a crap" lenihan. The country's ****ed and all he can do is LAUGH and SMILE at others pointing out what a blundering mess he has caused? OUT MAN OUT!