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BMW Commercial X5's prices at car auctions in ireland

  • 11-01-2009 12:24AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭


    Anyone know what sort of prices these are making at the moment with car auctions?? such as merlin
    Would anyone know where i could get info re. the auction prices for past merlin car aunctions??

    toying with the idea of buying one as there surely is alot of re-possessions out there


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    I've a mate who just paid 40K Sterling last week in an authorised BMW dealership up the north for a top end low mileage X5, and after paying just under 20K Euro in VRT, had the car landed in the south for just under 60K. The same X5 (lower spec with higher mileage), could not be got for under 90K in a BMW dealer down in the south. He saved 30K by just going across the border.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    I've a mate who just paid 40K Sterling last week in an authorised BMW dealership up the north for a top end low mileage X5, and after paying just under 20K Euro in VRT, had the car landed in the south for just under 60K. The same X5 (lower spec with higher mileage), could not be got for under 90K in a BMW dealer down in the south. He saved 30K by just going across the border.

    What year Darragh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 YourCourier.ie


    barryi200 wrote: »
    Anyone know what sort of prices these are making at the moment with car auctions?? such as merlin
    Would anyone know where i could get info re. the auction prices for past merlin car aunctions??

    Have a look at "Snapshot" on Merlin's website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Have a look at "Snapshot" on Merlin's website.

    It costs €10 to €84 to look at snapshot http://www.merlincarauctions.ie/dynamic.php?lang=&id_menu=45


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Avns1s wrote: »
    What year Darragh?

    2008


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭barryi200


    i was looking at either a 05 or 06 model. 60k is too much too much to spend i think when the country is in recession!!

    most online car auctions between here and the uk have bloody subscriptions to pay to get access to this sort of info!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Bandara


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    2008

    I was offered a 2008 X5 fully loaded with sod all milage for €32k the thursday before Christmas by a finance company (my accountant has close ties with them)

    The only condition was it had to be paid in full by the next day. I wasn't interested but rang te brother who in the ten minutes it took to get in touch with him the X5 was sold. This was NOT a commerical, it was a regular passanger vehicle

    They are plummetting in value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    get a passenger one up the north, then commercialise it (a company called OGH will do it, either that or do it yourself) , 50 euro VRT, full spec X5 ,


    get something like this : 2006 X5 Full Spec


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Hammertime wrote: »
    I was offered a 2008 X5 fully loaded with sod all milage for €32k the thursday before Christmas by a finance company (my accountant has close ties with them)

    The only condition was it had to be paid in full by the next day. I wasn't interested but rang te brother who in the ten minutes it took to get in touch with him the X5 was sold. This was NOT a commerical, it was a regular passanger vehicle

    They are plummetting in value

    I've a mate who sold an 06 one, bought at the end of 2007 through a dealer for 49K Euro, sold it for 17.5K just before Christmas because he needed the cash so badly. I wouldn't take one if I was given it for free, nice car but I just don't identify with the people who buy them. To me, people are buying them to make an income/wealth statement about themselves and I'm just not into that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭Guvnor


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    I've a mate who sold an 06 one, bought at the end of 2007 through a dealer for 49K Euro, sold it for 17.5K just before Christmas because he needed the cash so badly. I wouldn't take one if I was given it for free, nice car but I just don't identify with the people who buy them. To me, people are buying them to make an income/wealth statement about themselves and I'm just not into that.


    I don't buy into this Darragh - I admit that your ego is heavily involved when buying a car but to say it's a wealth statement is wrong - especially now when they are losing money hand over fist, I think they are a nice car and would happily buy one but would have to sell a car (yikes) to justify it!

    I heard of an 06 being let go for 11k - seems madness but good for the buyer if he/she wants a decent car for what is now a value price. At 10-20k they are cheap imo when 06 onwards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭Guvnor


    Hammertime wrote: »
    I was offered a 2008 X5 fully loaded with sod all milage for €32k the thursday before Christmas by a finance company (my accountant has close ties with them)

    The only condition was it had to be paid in full by the next day. I wasn't interested but rang te brother who in the ten minutes it took to get in touch with him the X5 was sold. This was NOT a commerical, it was a regular passanger vehicle

    They are plummetting in value

    This was not considered an unusually low price for such a car was it? What I mean is, is there a few 08's going for similar money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    I'm thinking of getting a '05 or '06 one and commercialising it. Seems to be plenty around well under £18k.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭Guvnor


    I'm thinking of getting a '05 or '06 one and commercialising it. Seems to be plenty around well under £18k.


    Hi Cmar,

    But when you see guys selling 06's for €17.5k it makes me anyway think, forget the commercial and get a passenger for the same money!? I know you have to be lucky but maybe if you were looking for one here then one would turn up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    Guvnor wrote: »
    Hi Cmar,

    But when you see guys selling 06's for €17.5k it makes me anyway think, forget the commercial and get a passenger for the same money!? I know you have to be lucky but maybe if you were looking for one here then one would turn up?

    Where have you seen '06's selling for €17.5k?
    I'd definately be interested at that price!


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have heard a story or two(reliable source) of lads picking out an SUV and thinking they have got a good deal. Then going into the bank for a loan and after explaining what the money is for the bank said well we have one here and will sell it to you for "X" less.(X being 4k+ in these cases) So I dont know If you can just walk into a bank and ask them(doubt it) have they any repossessed cars for sale but they definitely have them and Im sure there are plenty of X5's among them going very cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    The last time i was over in Merlin (November) there was a few X5's knocking around (05-06-07's). I remember seeing one provisionally sold for €23k. Things have changed again since then, should pick up one a lot cheaper.

    I'll prob be over there this Wed, i'll keep an eye out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭Guvnor


    Cheers Drummerboy - a few of us would defo be interested to see what the current pricing is!

    Cmar - darragh29 referenced a mate who late an 06 go for 17.5k just before xmas. Hammertime was offered a low mileage 08 loaded for €32k. I heard of an 06 being sold for 11k, not sure of mileage.

    All of these are passenger models which makes an 18-22k commercial look a bit pricey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    Cheers Drummerboy + Guvnor, definately interested to hear of the prices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭junkyard


    I'm only waiting to hear Harvey Norman selling them for 4999 euros and if you buy a passenger one you'll get a commercial one free!!! Seriously though, Merlin often throw in cars at knock down prices to get people talking, I've been up there bidding on cars a few times and ended up as bidder two on some of the ones sold provisionally and the next time I'm up there the same car goes through the auction, unsold from the previous auction. I think the moral of the story is don't believe all you see or hear. I've yet to see a 05commercial X5 for under 20k and I get around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    junkyard wrote: »
    I'm only waiting to hear Harvey Norman selling them for 4999 euros and if you buy a passenger one you'll get a commercial one free!!! Seriously though, Merlin often throw in cars at knock down prices to get people talking, I've been up there bidding on cars a few times and ended up as bidder two on some of the ones sold provisionally and the next time I'm up there the same car goes through the auction, unsold from the previous auction. I think the moral of the story is don't believe all you see or hear. I've yet to see a 05commercial X5 for under 20k and I get around.

    That sounds more likely THB. From what I've looked at in the republic, the cheapest decent X5's comm were around €20k. So one from the north brought down and converted would save quite a bit of money.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭barryi200


    are they not going for the same price up north lads...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 YourCourier.ie


    get a passenger one up the north, then commercialise it (a company called OGH will do it, either that or do it yourself) , 50 euro VRT, full spec X5 ,

    Eric, are you sure about the €50 VRT? The X5 would be a category 'B' Vehicle e.g. Car Derived or Jeep Derived Van

    To the best of my knowledge the €50 VRT rate is for "true" commercial vehicles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    TO get Cat C you need a wheelbase over 2450mm and the GVW has to be above 2520kg.
    The X5 meets both of these.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 YourCourier.ie


    TO get Cat C you need a wheelbase over 2450mm and the GVW has to be above 2520kg.
    The X5 meets both of these.

    Does the load area length not need to be a minimum percentage of the wheelbase to qualify for Cat C?

    Can anyone confirm what VRT they have paid on an X5?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    I sold a RR sport Commercial a few months back and that was €50 VRT so i presume the X5 will be the same.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Preset No.3


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    To me, people are buying them to make an income/wealth statement about themselves and I'm just not into that.


    To be honest, I resent that comment. I work hard, do a lot of driving all over the country. I dont have any major commitments, meaning no wife and kids so I wanted to spend that extra few quid and bought and X5 Commercial. Would I get the same critique if I bought a land cruiser, or a pajero?

    I'll tell you what I dont get. People that buy little micras or saxos for 3k and then spend another 10k doing it up!!! I also dont get those people who buy a top end car like a BMW 7 series, or a jag, or a mercedes that is 7 or 8 years old. Oh so you really did want a car like this, but only now can you afford it.

    So what ARE you into? Theres no need to be have a go a people that drive nice cars, no need at all. We work hard, we drive what we want. Simple, end of story.

    Incidentally, I bought my X5 at the beginning of 2008. Brand new out of the north. Commercial so €50 VRT, paid in the VRT office in Monaghan. No vat, as the goods were for export and I am vat registered. I got the higher band of the exchange rate from my bank manager so I saved a few quid there. All in all, I got a brand new X5 for about €53k. Put seats in, pay vat and vrt, cost would have become about €110k!!!

    Obiviously I couldnt predict what happen to the economy, but all in all, I still think that I got a great deal and Im very happy with my X5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭Cmar-Ireland


    To be honest, I resent that comment. I work hard, do a lot of driving all over the country. I dont have any major commitments, meaning no wife and kids so I wanted to spend that extra few quid and bought and X5 Commercial. Would I get the same critique if I bought a land cruiser, or a pajero?

    I'll tell you what I dont get. People that buy little micras or saxos for 3k and then spend another 10k doing it up!!! I also dont get those people who buy a top end car like a BMW 7 series, or a jag, or a mercedes that is 7 or 8 years old. Oh so you really did want a car like this, but only now can you afford it.

    So what ARE you into? Theres no need to be have a go a people that drive nice cars, no need at all. We work hard, we drive what we want. Simple, end of story............


    Agree 100% with you.
    No-one should have to justify what they drive. If you like it, buy it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭crocro


    To be honest, I resent that comment. I work hard...I'll tell you what I dont get. People that buy little micras or saxos for 3k and then spend another 10k doing it up!!! I also dont get those people who buy a top end car like a BMW 7 series, or a jag, or a mercedes that is 7 or 8 years old. Oh so you really did want a car like this, but only now can you afford it.
    Is your attitude to these drivers (modded cars & 2nd hand luxury) not the same as Darragh29's attitude to X5 drivers? You have contempt for them because you believe that their choice of car is a failed attempt at elevating their status.

    And if you're really not concerned about how other people see you then why would you resent Darragh29's comments?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Bandara


    crocro wrote: »
    Is your attitude to these drivers (modded cars & 2nd hand luxury) not the same as Darragh29's attitude to X5 drivers? You have contempt for them because you believe that their choice of car is a failed attempt at elevating their status.

    And if you're really not concerned about how other people see you then why would you resent Darragh29's comments?

    I think he was using it as an example of how people although they might not be into/understand others personal tastes or wishes that we should all respect them.

    i.e. Each to their own, live and let live etc.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Preset No.3


    Hammertime wrote: »
    I think he was using it as an example of how people although they might not be into/understand others personal tastes or wishes that we should all respect them.

    i.e. Each to their own, live and let live etc.

    Exactly what I was trying to say. Sure you wouldnt be Irish if you werent knocking someone who's doing a little bit better than someone else.


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