Aherne on the Late Late - Any mention of Recession?

dixiefly · 10-01-2009 03:18PM #1

I have to admit that I could not stomach watching Bertie Aherne on the Late Late last night. I did see some of the interview but there was no mention of the recession.
Considering the absolute disaster that the recession has become and a 70% increase in the numbers signing on I think that Pat Kenny should have hit the f*cker with some pretty tough questions. I know it was a GAA night and I am a GAA club and committee member having played for a good few years but this was a situation in which the ex-Taoiseach should have been made answer for his stewardship.

FGR · 10-01-2009 03:25PM

I wouldn't be surprised if avoiding -that- topic was one of the terms and conditions placed by Mr Aherne prior to the interview.

jdivision · 10-01-2009 03:26PM

RTE tell them they'll be given an easy ride, they did it recently with Cowen in Wexford. Disgraceful behaviour
http://www.tribune.ie/article/2008/nov/09/im-glad-you-didnt-ask-me-that-pat/

bbbbb · 10-01-2009 03:27PM

I didn't fancy watching it either. I wouldn't expect Pat to do the hard hitting questions. My assumption was that this would be/was a "dog & pony show", building up Berties image as part of his "legacy" and as possible preparation for a run at the presidency.

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 03:27PM

I wish they would stop giving that megalomaniac more publicity.:mad:

Guy:Incognito · 10-01-2009 03:27PM

dixiefly wrote: »

I have to admit that I could not stomach watching Bertie Aherne on the Late Late last night. I did see some of the interview but there was no mention of the recession.
Considering the absolute disaster that the recession has become and a 70% increase in the numbers signing on I think that Pat Kenny should have hit the f*cker with some pretty tough questions. I know it was a GAA night and I am a GAA club and committee member having played for a good few years but this was a situation in which the ex-Taoiseach should have been made answer for his stewardship.

What should Pat Kenny have asked him? "So Bertie, how exactly did you cause the worlds economy to collopse without anyone realiseing it came from Ireland"?

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 03:29PM

Stekelly wrote: »

What should Pat Kenny have asked him? "So Bertie, how exactly did you cause the worlds economy to collopse without anyone realiseing it came from Ireland"?

Why did you continue spending and wasting money in such a reckless way despite you being warned about the downturn 18 months before you left office?:mad:

Zebra3 · 10-01-2009 03:38PM

Did they ask him about his great love for Man United when he was on last night? :pac:

dixiefly · 10-01-2009 03:39PM

Stekelly wrote: »

What should Pat Kenny have asked him? "So Bertie, how exactly did you cause the worlds economy to collopse without anyone realiseing it came from Ireland"?

Are you honestly saying that the policies and decisions made during his tenure has nothing to do with the mess we are in and our capacity to get out of it?

jdivision · 10-01-2009 03:40PM

how could you justify your salary being higher than any other Prime Ministers in the world?
How can you justify the benchmarking process?
how can you justify giving tax incentives to property developers at a time of boom?
how can you justify allowing property developers avoid tax via loopholes that your government refused to close?
Why did you not listen to the Central Bank about the economy becoming uncompetitive?
Why did you encourage first time buyers to buy houses at the very peak of the market?
That's without even going into the Tribunal stuff. SteKelly have you not noticed that Ireland is being far worse affected than anywhere else in the EU?

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 03:44PM

How on earth did you manage to get the taxpayers to fork out for your newly created egotistical "Office of the former Taoiseach"
What is your favourite make up?

dixiefly · 10-01-2009 06:06PM

jdivision wrote: »

how could you justify your salary being higher than any other Prime Ministers in the world?
How can you justify the benchmarking process?
how can you justify giving tax incentives to property developers at a time of boom?
how can you justify allowing property developers avoid tax via loopholes that your government refused to close?
Why did you not listen to the Central Bank about the economy becoming uncompetitive?
Why did you encourage first time buyers to buy houses at the very peak of the market?
That's without even going into the Tribunal stuff. SteKelly have you not noticed that Ireland is being far worse affected than anywhere else in the EU?

I also recall the EU agencies advising us several times that our financial model was unsustainable and we were told by Bertie and co. that we were a "special case" !!! FFS we were a special case in that we are an island without a land bridge or tunnell to the rest of Europe and will always have to be ultra ompetitive to keep what we gained.

And another thing, does any of you remember Bertie's response about a year ago to those saying that the economy was heading for a major slide? He said that meaybe they should commit suicide if they were that pessimistic about things. Incredible statement for the Taoiseach of a country to make.

phasers · 10-01-2009 06:09PM

I love Bertie Ahern

Proxy · 10-01-2009 06:36PM

This seems a bit more Politics than TV, but I digress...

It was about the GAA. If there was a Prime Time special on the Recession and say, a local businessman/ex-GAA player was being questioned on his GAA career rather than his business situation, you'd also complain. You can't have all-guns-blazing all the time. I know we all want answers, but it wasn't the time or place.

mickos · 10-01-2009 06:49PM

Proxy wrote: »

This seems a bit more Politics than TV, but I digress...

It was about the GAA. If there was a Prime Time special on the Recession and say, a local businessman/ex-GAA player was being questioned on his GAA career rather than his business situation, you'd also complain. You can't have all-guns-blazing all the time. I know we all want answers, but it wasn't the time or place.

well if it was a GAA show what was the point in having Bertie there at all. I don't remember him ever togging for the Dubs. He must have a neck like the proverbial jockeys bollix to show his face on national Tv the state he has left the country in. Publicity whore if ever I saw one.

Captain Slow IRL · 10-01-2009 06:52PM

Kenny asked the 2 GAA heads (incoming and outgoing presidents) what they made of the recession and what the future had in store - why couldn't he have asked bertie the same question?!?!

road_high · 10-01-2009 06:54PM

bbbbb wrote: »

I didn't fancy watching it either. I wouldn't expect Pat to do the hard hitting questions. My assumption was that this would be/was a "dog & pony show", building up Berties image as part of his "legacy" and as possible preparation for a run at the presidency.

Would make me sick if he got preseident. McAlleese might be bad but at least she never had his "legacy". On a more positive note FF will be hammered next June, as they deserve.

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 06:55PM

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Kenny asked the 2 GAA heads (incoming and outgoing presidents) what they made of the recession and what the future had in store - why couldn't he have asked bertie the same question?!?!

Because Bertie told Kenny what to and what not to ask him.:rolleyes:

road_high · 10-01-2009 07:06PM

dixiefly wrote: »

I also recall the EU agencies advising us several times that our financial model was unsustainable and we were told by Bertie and co. that we were a "special case" !!! FFS we were a special case in that we are an island without a land bridge or tunnell to the rest of Europe and will always have to be ultra ompetitive to keep what we gained.

And another thing, does any of you remember Bertie's response about a year ago to those saying that the economy was heading for a major slide? He said that meaybe they should commit suicide if they were that pessimistic about things. Incredible statement for the Taoiseach of a country to make.

Indeed anecdotely I am hearing of several individuals around the country that have sadly done just that owing to financial strain. Though not quite what Bertie had in mind I suppose.

Proxy · 10-01-2009 07:29PM

Why can't he appear on a show he was asked to be on? And most guests have a clause of having questions they'd rather not answer, its common. Welcome to Media. Like it or not, you're shown what they want to show you, until you go on and assume you won't be asked questions on embarrassing topics. Would you like to be asked about being on boards.ie and then asked "so what was your most embarrassing drunken post?".

He was on as Bertie Ahern, public figure and GAA fan. I think it was fine.

lostexpectation · 10-01-2009 08:01PM

pat made reference to the presidency, as a joke

how about ahern for president of the fai...

mickos · 10-01-2009 08:03PM

lostexpectation wrote: »

pat made reference to the presidency,

how about ahern for president of the fai...

I think president of the FAI is a voluntary position so I'm sure bertie would have no interest in it.

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 08:06PM

Proxy wrote: »

Why can't he appear on a show he was asked to be on? And most guests have a clause of having questions they'd rather not answer, its common. Welcome to Media. Like it or not, you're shown what they want to show you, until you go on and assume you won't be asked questions on embarrassing topics. Would you like to be asked about being on boards.ie and then asked "so what was your most embarrassing drunken post?".

He was on as Bertie Ahern, public figure and GAA fan. I think it was fine.

Yeah, let's not mention the murdering of white farmers and the Goverment self inflicted famine / cholera problem in Zimbabwe when Mugabe is on a TV show.:rolleyes:

Supermanscat · 10-01-2009 08:14PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Yeah, let's not mention the murdering of white farmers and the Goverment self inflicted famine / cholera problem in Zimbabwe when Mugabe is on a TV show.:rolleyes:

Thats a Sh1te point in my opinion.

ronbyrne2005 · 10-01-2009 08:26PM

The only reason these guys(Cowan, Ahern etc) are so well known that they get to appear on Late Late is because they are politicans and politicans shoould be willing to answer question on nationall economic matters at any time.

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 08:32PM

ronbyrne2005 wrote: »

The only reason these guys(Cowan, Ahern etc) are so well known that they get to appear on Late Late is because they are politicans and politicans shoould be willing to answer question on nationall economic matters at any time.

Exactly. They gave themselves plenty of self congratulations when the country was allegedly doing well, they had no problems singing their self praise on the likes of the Late Late Show then, but when it ain't so rosy, they refuse to discuss it.:mad:

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 08:39PM

mickos wrote: »

. Publicity whore if ever I saw one.

All the make up was the give away.:D

PrivateEye · 10-01-2009 09:25PM

RTE have allowed Bertie to wrap the Green Flag around himself for years in fairness. The whole country can name the fellas local pub. Theres a reason for that. The media have basically made him somebody ordinary working people identify as 'one of us'.

Even when he had his hand in the póca, ordinary joe bloggs just went "I'd feckin' do it meself and all'

A political moron of the highest order of political morons, a man far from 'the common people' they tell us he belongs to, and a man who has to mention his Grandda whenever somebody tells him 'nicking loads of money/doing dodgey deals/giving away billions of quid worth of gas' might not follow the eh....'core ideals' of a 'Republican' Party.

deleriumtremens · 10-01-2009 09:30PM

PrivateEye wrote: »

RTE have allowed Bertie to wrap the Green Flag around himself for years in fairness. The whole country can name the fellas local pub. Theres a reason for that. The media have basically made him somebody ordinary working people identify as 'one of us'.

Even when he had his hand in the póca, ordinary joe bloggs just went "I'd feckin' do it meself and all'

A political moron of the highest order of political morons, a man far from 'the common people' they tell us he belongs to, and a man who has to mention his Grandda whenever somebody tells him 'nicking loads of money/doing dodgey deals/giving away billions of quid worth of gas' might not follow the eh....'core ideals' of a 'Republican' Party.

Quite true. I'm just glad the daily mail didnt buy into it and hounded him about his finances.

Fighting Irish · 10-01-2009 11:17PM

dixiefly wrote: »

I have to admit that I could not stomach watching Bertie Aherne on the Late Late last night. I did see some of the interview but there was no mention of the recession.
Considering the absolute disaster that the recession has become and a 70% increase in the numbers signing on I think that Pat Kenny should have hit the f*cker with some pretty tough questions. I know it was a GAA night and I am a GAA club and committee member having played for a good few years but this was a situation in which the ex-Taoiseach should have been made answer for his stewardship.

Why should he give a fook?
Its not his fault we're in a recession and theres nothing he can do about it

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 11:22PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Why should he give a fook?
Its not his fault we're in a recession and theres nothing he can do about it

He was the single biggest cause of it. Bertie's attitude was Power at any cost, he was warned about the bubble bursting and his only response was a mumbling about people who spoke like that should commit suicide, or something like that.

Aherne on the Late Late - Any mention of Recession?

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