"Traveller" Prime Time tonight.

there's a few of them that need a good arse-whipping - jumped up prícks. Because in all fairness, there are a few good ones who are being tarnished with a reputation because there's a few dirty scum within the community making them suffer.

Why do they want running wanter though? when they refuse to move into houses?

Could they not just be moved into bungalows? They're practically stationary caravans with electricity and running water.

Fizman wrote: »

You think thats bad? Imagine what all the good Limerick folk have to put up with!

Yah, but the settled ones aren't causing that. It's the knackers, the scum, the underlords of society trying to run gang rings and yet having the intelligence of penguins.

They go hand in hand.

The McInerny family (iirc) said they wanted running water and electricity but they wanted to keep living in caravans. A caravan is basically a small yoke with wheels on it.

Perhaps, we could paint four big black wheels on to a house on a suburb in Limerick, and a little bar sticking out, as a makeshift towbar, and then they could call it a caravan, and we can call it a house with wheels. And it would have this running water or whatever the hell they're on about.

Problem solved.

axel rose wrote: »

I am confused that I dont see any reports on travellers doing anything to sort out their own issues. Ok they want to live in a halting site with water and electricity (and horses), then what is stopping them providing it for themselves? why are the settled community expected to provide it?

Many of them earn their own money, if they want independance and freedom then why dont any travellers buy their own sites?

Has anyone heard of a traveller paying their way to provide for the lifestyle they choose?

They've tried that in Rathkeale- bought a field on the edge of the town, put in roads, pipes for water, esb, etc, basically laid out like a small housing estate just missing the houses. They'd moved in a few caravans before the council came along and told them to get out and blocked up the entrance.

I didn't see the prime time thingy so this is all from my own experiences.

I used to work as a security guard. And I would catch an odd settled person stealing (some rich people too before anyone thinks it's a certain section) but for every one of them I'd catch there would be ten travelers caught. Not only would I catch them stealing but every time I approached one I was threatened by them and told that they were coming around to my house etc. Anytime I called the guards they did nothing, just a caution even when I caught the same people repeatedly. All I could do was ban them from the store and they still got in when I had other things to deal with. One of the people in my company was put in hospital when beaten up by a group of them when he caught them shoplifting.

Of course there are a few that are decent but all the people who are pc and think we should give them all a chance etc etc it is obvious you haven't had to deal with them ever!

axel rose wrote: »

Its a pity that it didnt work out. I would like to think that if travelleers were truly independant they would have more respect. It is true that there are very few successful role models in the traveller community for both the settled and the traveller community to relate to.

Rliston do you have any idea why the council stopped the development? ( I should have said halted the development ). Was it a planning issue relating to development or was it based on the objections of the locals I wonder?

I heard from a few locals that it was closed because the planning was for houses rather than a halting site.

It didn't help matters though when one family from outside Rathkeale moved in started causing trouble around the town- the Rathkeale travellers warned one of the local shops not to let the family in the door of the shop because they'd steal everything in it, they regularly came down to the shop and caried away drums of gas or €5 worth of petrol in the van.

cherryghost wrote: »

on a serious note. im near a traveller community, they are no bother to us at all

It's the same in down here; its the ones that come home at Christmas that cause the trouble

Thats a pity, your story proves that there decent people in the traveller community. I wonder what they thought of the programme tonight.

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