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Why can girls hit guys and guys can't hit girls?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    I wouldn't hit a woman if she hit me........ anywhere else but the nuts. If it be male or female and someone hits me in the nuts, I'm going to curb stomp a bitch! (obviously if I'm quick enough to do it in that 10 seconds of grace before the pain sets in)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    I can be a very annoying man...
    I generally don't make fun of people or insult them but some people, I must just annoy them.
    :)

    I've been hit by a few girls... once or twice it's been my own fault... for example I might have grabbed someones ass only to have them knee me in the crotch, but in general it's been because ... some women are crazy, and know that men rarely retaliate.

    I've avoided hitting of them back... I've screamed at them, shouted at them... demanded to know why they thought it was ok to strike me or any other person... and so on... generally they've either been at a loss for words or they've been pretty unrepentant, but never have they had a good answer.

    Random examples.
    Bulltoe to the crotch,
    Scratched (left a scar),
    kicked in the shins,
    Punched in the face a couple of times,
    Sucker punched in the gut,
    Kneed in the crotch a few times.


    Can't think of anything else right now...

    On the other hand, men never hit me...
    Except one or two scangers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    While I'm not above the odd playfight/battle for the remote with male friends or relatives, and don't think lads should treat girls as if they're made out of glass, I think a full force smack or punch from a lad to a girl will, in 9 out of 10 cases, do much more damage than vice versa. There was one time where a close male friend upset me so much I actually resorted to slapping him across the face, and all he had to do was hold me by the wrists to stop me. If he'd reacted the same way to me upsetting him I would've ended up with a black eye or two and a fair bit of bruising, but I didn't even leave a mark. Equally, i imagine if I didn't know in the back of my upset mind that I couldn't really hurt him even I really went for it, I doubt I would have physically attacked him. If I was equally frustrated with a child or another girl (and I have been) I wouldn't hit them like. So I think it's mostly down to the size strength issue.

    That said I have the upper body strength of..well, nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Put like that, I can't really disagree with ya.

    This is an internet argument. You're not supposed to do that. :)
    I think a full force smack or punch from a lad to a girl will, in 9 out of 10 cases, do much more damage than vice versa. There was one time where a close male friend upset me so much I actually resorted to slapping him across the face, and all he had to do was hold me by the wrists to stop me. If he'd reacted the same way to me upsetting him I would've ended up with a black eye or two and a fair bit of bruising, but I didn't even leave a mark. Equally, i imagine if I didn't know in the back of my upset mind that I couldn't really hurt him even I really went for it, I doubt I would have physically attacked him. If I was equally frustrated with a child or another girl (and I have been) I wouldn't hit them like. So I think it's mostly down to the size strength issue.

    A child is different. A child cannot be held accountable for the actions to the same extent that an adult man or woman can. If an adult woman hits first, then she has to accept the risks that go along with a physical confrontation with a bigger stronger person.

    Yes men are more capable of inflicting serious damage and a full force punch from a woman probably shouldn't warrant a full force punch from a man in reply but if you start a fight you have to accept that there may be consequences. Size, strength and gender are irrelevant really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    javaboy wrote: »
    This is an internet argument. You're not supposed to do that. :)

    I know, very spiteful isn't it. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ChocolateSauce


    Plenty of girls alot taller and stronger than me so it's not size. Why is it that it's a mortal sin almost?


    Btw, I've never been hit or hit and don't think I would hit.

    I hit my dirty little slut partner all the time.

    It is not okay for women to hit men, it can really hurt!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    FearDark wrote: »
    Was out in my town on Sunday night, i went out late and had one bottle of Bulmers the whole night, anyway as you do I went across from the night club to the chippers and made my order, while waiting for my order this girl came in to the chipper, she promptly started to abuse the staff in there saying they were greaseballs and stuff like "I dont want to be served by you, you monkey, I dont know where your hands have been"etc etc, like an idiot I just said to her chill out because she was being obnoxious... mistake.

    She told me to go outside and fight her... That is the worst possible position to be in, what do u do, Im obviously not going to go out and fight her, im 14 stone and lift weights 4 nights a week for the last 7 years, im not fighting a drunk girl in the middle of the street!! So, I ring my friend who is driving for the night and tell him whats going on, he says he will be up to collect me in 10 minutes, so now I have to ignore this psycho who is at this stage outside the chipper and punching the glass with her fists, she stands out there for a good 10 minutes calling me out, calling me allsorts!

    She makes her way into the chipper half a dozen times in the meantime and takes a few swipes at me and i just hold her off with my hand until she comes in the last time and catches me in the mouth so i push her back towards the door and she literally goes flying and lands on the ground... Next thing, she is saying do you know who you just hit?! Im like, i didnt hit you, im pushing you away, i gave you enough chances to walk. Turns out she is friends with some "lovely" people in my town, so now im in trouble... Anyway I manage to escape through the rear of the chipper to my friend who is waiting in my car.

    So to sum up, yes, if a woman is looking for it she should bloody well get it.

    Apparently, I can be done for assault, so says my mate who apparently knows someone in a similar situation who acted same as me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Kinetic^ wrote: »
    I wouldn't hit a woman if she hit me........ anywhere else but the nuts.

    Ok then, allow me to put forward an exception to your rule!

    About 18 months ago, myself and a fine lady friend of mine were strolling out of the city after a night out. Both of us were well juiced as we strolled out the Ennis Road toward home. It was a fine summers night. That was until three 'girls' aged 18/19 came into my vision and were walking in our direction. Being nicely sauced, I thought nothing of them approaching (respectable area-not known for trouble). That was until they were yards away, and one of them decided to throw her lit cigarette off my chest.

    They had walked a few yards past, and I turned and was like 'WTF'? Now to say that these three fine ladies were anything less than skangbots would be untrue, and one of them walked up to me and threatened to do everything to me. Then she turned to my female friend and swung an open handed swipe at her, catching her on the very top of her head. She wound up, ready to swing at her again, so I leaned in to get her away from her. This is where it got 'interesting'.

    With me now in the way, skanger #1 decides to swing her arm in my direction, landing it, and scratching the sh1t out of my neck with four of her nails. I warn her and say do not fcuking do that again. She did. Caught me right on the mouth this time. At this point skanger #2 and #3 were directly behind her, roaring and screaming. What made it worse was that one of them was still trying to swing at the girl I was with, so I wasn't just dealing with one. Then skangbot # 1 decides to start throwing kicks, and lands a few knees directly on my thigh muscle. I was not enjoying this experience, and it was pretty fcuking new to me! Being 6'2" and fairly broad n all! Then the switch was flicked. She pressed the red button! No, she didn't land a kick to my balls.

    "She starting spitting directly into my face"! Four times.

    Now before this, I had realised I was a little bloodied.She had also ripped the sh1t out of my favourite shirt (RIP). But when the spitting started......ding fcuking dong!!!

    I turned to my lady friend and said "Sorry about this" and smashed yer one straight into the side of her face. Yep, I did what had to be done. I could not have connected any better! I went over to the other two and grabbed them both by the neck, and told em to "fcuk off or I could possibly beat the life out of the three of ye".

    They fcuked right off. It looked as if they continued into the city centre to look for more. My mate was in town the following day and said that he saw two knackers, one of which had the left side of her all bandaged up. Could have been her, who knows.

    I remember the following morning there was an international rugby match on early and some uncles had come over to watch it. I walked in with different clothes on (went back to hers and she gave some of her brothers stuff to put on seeing as 'the' shirt was in tatters), told em all the story, and they all thought that what I did had to be done.

    Moral of the story: If you want to get laid by a hot girl, protect her from 3 skangers, whilst proceeding to almost knocking the head off one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Killer bees are much worse than wasps.
    what about killer wasps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    FearDark wrote: »
    Apparently, I can be done for assault, so says my mate who apparently knows someone in a similar situation who acted same as me...

    Of course you can/could be but really, where's the witnesses going to come from and honestly, you won't find many Garda that'd back up such a cnut like the one you described. Even it went as far as the courts, I doubt there's a judge in the land that'd rule against you and what you done. In fact, you did an awful lot to hold yourself back and not react until you had to push her back to defend yourself. I would've just punched her in the face and got it over with quickly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 Recovered


    Who says we don't???

    I shall reveal this to you wimmins out there:
    One of the most famous household tricks in the ever so closed circles men form is a couple of oranges in a pillowcase.
    As long as you don't go for the face this does not cause bruising and when you put the case back around your pillow it has this lovely orange scent that will usually last a day or two.

    Just splendid!

    /should I mention I've never hit a woman in real life? I'm not fully onboard with the whole AH thing. Ah well, I'll just run for my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Recovered wrote: »
    Who says we don't???

    I shall reveal this to you wimmins out there:
    One of the most famous household tricks in the ever so closed circles men form is a couple of oranges in a pillowcase.
    As long as you don't go for the face this does not cause bruising and when you put the case back around your pillow it has this lovely orange scent that will usually last a day or two.

    Just splendid!

    /should I mention I've never hit a woman in real life? I'm not fully onboard with the whole AH thing. Ah well, I'll just run for my life.

    Jesus man, chill. Here, just sit back and have a nice cold bottle of Stella.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 Recovered


    Fizman wrote: »
    Jesus man, chill. Here, just sit back and have a nice cold bottle of Stella.

    Wait, you bottled your girlfriend? Dude, that's taking this a step to far!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Recovered wrote: »
    Wait, you bottled your girlfriend? Dude, that's taking this a step to far!

    His other half's name is Stella and he's physically abusive to her..... Is that Stanley Kowalski?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 Recovered


    javaboy wrote: »
    His other half's name is Stella and he's physically abusive to her..... Is that Stanley Kowalski?

    Nah, looks like Marlon Brando to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 297 ✭✭peneau


    Girls are not entitled to hit guys anymore than guys are entitled to hit girls.

    General rule of thumb people shouldn't hit each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭ART6


    A friend's grown up daughter has a black belt in Thai kick boxing. She's a slim, small little thing, but hitting her would NOT be a good idea, and getting hit by her would be an even worse one:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Because women hit like girls and men should be able to take it. Even if it does hurt you can't let on and should dismiss it with some shovanistic remark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭chops1990


    the only time i'd hit a woman is if she's armed and tryin to kill me :D luckily i've never been in such a situation and plan never to get into this situation :D Lets get this straight : WOMEN ARE NOT EQUAL TO MEN. If that statement was true there'd b no taboo to men hitting women and so forth. It makes sense they're not equal to us anyway, we were made to be bigger and stronger, besides the freakishly large olympic style female bodybuilders. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    javaboy wrote: »


    A child is different. A child cannot be held accountable for the actions to the same extent that an adult man or woman can. If an adult woman hits first, then she has to accept the risks that go along with a physical confrontation with a bigger stronger person.

    I wasn't using the child example to advocate child beating or anything. I'm saying the difference in strength between me and the average ten or eleven year old child is much the same as the difference in strength between me and the average man.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭abi2007


    Plenty of girls alot taller and stronger than me so it's not size. Why is it that it's a mortal sin almost?


    Btw, I've never been hit or hit and don't think I would hit.


    Ah bless... you must be tiny!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭junior_apollo


    :D:D
    You should try hitting me or my fellow martial arts ladies some time.

    Address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    I wasn't using the child example to advocate child beating or anything. I'm saying the difference in strength between me and the average ten or eleven year old child is much the same as the difference in strength between me and the average man.

    And my point is that it's irrelevant whether there is a difference in strength between you and a child or between you and a man.

    The reason you wouldn't hit a child back is because they are not quite mature enough to be held accountable for the actions to the same extent adults are. It's not just because they may be weaker.

    Same goes for weak men/women. If they are adults, they are accountable for their actions. If a woman or a weak man decides to start a fight with someone who is considerably stronger, then they deserve whatever they get in return.

    The distinction isn't based on their size or strength but on the extent to which they can be held accountable for their actions. Basically an adult should know better. Kids have some leeway because they're immature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Terodil


    Arguing with the potential strength difference is totally pointless. I don't care who of the two is potentially stronger; it's the intent and actually used force and tactic that makes the difference.

    A strong man can slap a woman causing very little pain, and a weak woman can deliver a ball-crunching kick to a man that leaves him permanently injured.

    Taboos are irrational and pointing at them saying 'look, we have the taboo for a reason' is perfectly circular.

    In a relationship especially (just jumped over from the PI forum where we had this debate) violence in general is just a no-no unless, as usual, both consent and do it freely because it gives them a kick (pun very much intended). The physical dimension of it is negligible in most cases anyway, it's the mental scars that cause the real hurt. And for those it's irrelevant how strong somebody is. A sharp tongue can cause much greater wounds than a fist.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    abi2007 wrote: »
    Ah bless... you must be tiny!
    was more referring to the beast like nature of some irish women :o
    Terodil wrote: »
    In a relationship especially (just jumped over from the PI forum where we had this debate)

    seen a thread bout guy hittin his gf nd started this thread :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    meh - some men are smaller than some women, but men for the most part have testosterone in them, which makes them bigger & more aggressive (and hairy) & therefore more physically powerful. That being said, if some mentaller knackbag young one, really tried to attack me; id probably attempt to restrain her with an arm lock or something. well that or run away like a girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    Scanger girls can fight like men, I've seen it! :D If i was attacked for the wrong reason, I would be happy to put them down.

    But generally i would never harm a woman, not even a dig in the arm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    Same way women don't rape men!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,141 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    MIN2511 wrote: »
    Same way women don't rape men!

    they do i think.

    wasnt kelsey grammer on the receiving end of a sexually abusive relationship with his girlfriend for years?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Terodil


    Ross_Mahon wrote: »
    But generally i would never harm a woman, not even a dig in the arm.
    ... but it's okay (= more acceptable) to harm a man?

    What is it that makes the difference? The little annex between the legs? ... come on.


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