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Bono slated by New Internationalist

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I don't know who to root for in this one. Bono's a git, New Internationalist is didactic leftist propaganda. But the NI has the Polyp cartoon's so I'll go for them.

    DOWN WITH BONO!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Terry wrote: »
    €100 million a year and that would all go to Africa?
    Are you ****ing joking?

    The band are worth about €400 million between them.
    They would probably make about €10 million a year in royalties, if that.

    They moved some, not all, some of their money to The Netherlands.

    Anyone who honestly thinks that the government would set aside all taxes paid by U2 and give that money to African nations is as deluded as they seem to think Bono is.


    That man does more good for charity than most of us put together will ever do.

    Hypocricy? I say begrudgery.

    So ranting and raving and lecturing people on how to spend their tax is doing good is it?:rolleyes:

    You seem deluded, not BONO; he knows exactly what he's doing. An out and out poser he is.

    Here's one for you.. If Bono was so good and charitable, where was he when this government were
    taking OAP med cards to save a 'measly' 100 million

    Where was he when this government were taking a poxy 10 million to STOP the cervical jab
    for young girls. I bet you if it was an AFRICAN issue he'd be jumping
    up and down like the twat he is.

    If AFRICAN governments were doing this, our Bono would be telling Irish people
    to pay for the jabs and the cards. He'd gladly ROB the shirt off our backs to give
    to the AFRICANS. That's our marvelous Bono!

    As far as I know, Bono said NOTHING about those two mentioned disgraceful cuts.

    See Bono, you don't have to travel to Africa to find injustice mate.

    Oh, but doing charity at home probably wouldn't allow you
    to be on the world stage would it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,169 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Telling us to pay taxes and then when he/the company has to, he moves out of the country so as not to pay them=hypocrisy!

    With another U2 album coming soon(:(), I'm sure Bono will be back out on the charitible circuit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    walshb wrote: »
    So ranting and raving and lecturing people on how to spend their tax is doing good is it?:rolleyes:

    You seem deluded, not BONO; he knows exactly what he's doing. An out and out poser he is.

    Here's one for you.. If Bono was so good and charitable, where was he when this government were
    taking OAP med cards to save a 'measly' 100 million

    Where was he when this government were taking a poxy 10 million to STOP the cervical jab
    for young girls. I bet you if it was an AFRICAN issue he'd be jumping
    up and down like the twat he is.

    If AFRICAN governments were doing this, our Bono would be telling Irish people
    to pay for the jabs and the cards. He'd gladly ROB the shirt off our backs to give
    to the AFRICANS. That's our marvelous Bono!

    As far as I know, Bono said NOTHING about those two mentioned disgraceful cuts.

    See Bono, you don't have to travel to Africa to find injustice mate.

    Oh, but doing charity at home probably wouldn't allow you
    to be on the world stage would it?
    How the **** would I know where he was when our government was screwing around?
    I'm not his publicist.

    He is asking Western governments to let go of any money owed to them by poor African governments.
    He's not asking any of you for any of your money.

    It will have a tiny little effect on your income tax. So ****ing small that you wouldn't notice it.

    However, you would all prefer to hang onto those few cents and bitch and moan about Bono.


    See that road you drive on in the morning?
    Well some German dude wants his chunk of it back.

    We're all quite happy to take money off our EU neighbours, but when it comes to giving a few cents a year to Africa, then all hell breaks loose.

    You are the hypocrites.

    You do realise that without the tax money of other European, that the N4 to Galway would still be a dirt road and we would all still be suckling at the teet of the British.

    Most of you would probably have been forced to leave the country to get work, but none of that matters, because Bono made a shrewd business move and asked us for a few cents.

    Get a ****ing grip and remember where we were before the generous tax payers of the EU bailed our collective arses out of the water and built the motorways you now drive on in your big ass cock too small so I make up for it by driving something out of a movie car.

    I'll tell you what.
    I'll give you all a Euro. Will that make you happy?
    I mean that's more than you are giving in taxes to piss poor people in Africa, but that doesn't matter, because Bono moved some of his business interests to another EU country.

    I'll even buy the envelope and stamp or I can just transfer it via paypal.

    Just make sure to spend it up North or to hire some foreign worker to do some menial job in your house and watch him transfer it home via WesternUnion.

    Of course, it doesn't matter that the country is going to crap and you are all helping by spending your money outside the country, because Bono made a wise investment.

    It doesn't matter that he brings in tourists every year who actually do spend money here (unlike some of you) because Bono tried to help some starving people by donating his well known name, his time and lots of his own money (but you don't want to hear about that, do you, you self righteous idiots?) to charity and all he asked for in return was a few cents that you would probably piss up against a wall instead of trying to help some starving people just because some Irish person who made it in the music industry, while you're still being the douche at parties with that acoustic guitar and that bitter taste in your talentless mouth and you hate the fact that he made it and you didn't.

    Get you ****ing priorities right before you start mouthing off and remember that you would have nothing in this country were it not for the taxes of other people from other countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Bono isn't responcible for bringing toursits to Ireland. All Ireland is to Bono is another publicity tool for his over inflated head. I doubt he has a clue whats going on in this country.

    The bottom line is he shouldn't be telling us how to spend our taxes when he won't contribute his own money to the tax pot. It's not like U2 is in any kind of financial bother the only reason they moved to Netherlands was to save them selfs a few quid. That's just plain greed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Have to say I really don't like Bono personally, but I never see the point of ridiculing his work for the Third World.

    I really dislike his messiah complex, and I have severe problems with U2's tax dodging, but for all the faults and 'hypocrisy' of his aid work, it's benefited Africa nations more than any pub arguments that his opponents can muster against it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    stovelid wrote: »
    Have to say I really don't like Bono personally, but I never see the point of ridiculing his work for the Third World.

    I really dislike his messiah complex, and I have severe problems with U2's tax dodging, but for all the faults and 'hypocrisy' of his aid work, it's benefited Africa nations more than any pub arguments that his opponents can muster against it.
    Has it? Africa's still just as bad as it always was. Starvation, murder, rape and child soldiers are still the order of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    I'll give you all a Euro. Will that make you happy?
    I mean that's more than you are giving in taxes to piss poor people in Africa, but that doesn't matter, because Bono moved some of his business interests to another EU country.

    Not true. its a couple of hundred a year per taxpayer. so a simple question

    If Bono asks Joe Bloggs to give 1% of his income to africa, why is it not fair for Joe Bloggs to ask bono to give 1% of his income ( or higher) to Africa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Terry wrote: »
    How the **** would I know where he was when our government was screwing around?
    I'm not his publicist.

    He is asking Western governments to let go of any money owed to them by poor African governments.
    He's not asking any of you for any of your money.

    It will have a tiny little effect on your income tax. So ****ing small that you wouldn't notice it.

    However, you would all prefer to hang onto those few cents and bitch and moan about Bono.


    See that road you drive on in the morning?
    Well some German dude wants his chunk of it back.

    We're all quite happy to take money off our EU neighbours, but when it comes to giving a few cents a year to Africa, then all hell breaks loose.

    You are the hypocrites.

    You do realise that without the tax money of other European, that the N4 to Galway would still be a dirt road and we would all still be suckling at the teet of the British.

    Most of you would probably have been forced to leave the country to get work, but none of that matters, because Bono made a shrewd business move and asked us for a few cents.

    Get a ****ing grip and remember where we were before the generous tax payers of the EU bailed our collective arses out of the water and built the motorways you now drive on in your big ass cock too small so I make up for it by driving something out of a movie car.

    I'll tell you what.
    I'll give you all a Euro. Will that make you happy?
    I mean that's more than you are giving in taxes to piss poor people in Africa, but that doesn't matter, because Bono moved some of his business interests to another EU country.

    I'll even buy the envelope and stamp or I can just transfer it via paypal.

    Just make sure to spend it up North or to hire some foreign worker to do some menial job in your house and watch him transfer it home via WesternUnion.

    Of course, it doesn't matter that the country is going to crap and you are all helping by spending your money outside the country, because Bono made a wise investment.

    It doesn't matter that he brings in tourists every year who actually do spend money here (unlike some of you) because Bono tried to help some starving people by donating his well known name, his time and lots of his own money (but you don't want to hear about that, do you, you self righteous idiots?) to charity and all he asked for in return was a few cents that you would probably piss up against a wall instead of trying to help some starving people just because some Irish person who made it in the music industry, while you're still being the douche at parties with that acoustic guitar and that bitter taste in your talentless mouth and you hate the fact that he made it and you didn't.

    Get you ****ing priorities right before you start mouthing off and remember that you would have nothing in this country were it not for the taxes of other people from other countries.

    So now you are lecturing us on how 'we won't miss the money?':rolleyes:

    The damn cheek!

    I don't think you admire or like Bono; I think you ARE Bono!:D I notice you never bothered to
    TRY to argue my point of Bono's silence when Irealnd has injustice issues. Sweet!

    If Bono is asking us to each give 1%, then he should make a pledge and a recorded
    pledge of 10 percent, then I might just take the twat serious!

    But Bono's clever, he knows it's a black hole and the money is usually squandered!

    You are one of three things Terry, you are EITHER an African, Bono's publicist or BONO himself

    So Bono is NOT asking for us to commit a part of our GDP to Africa?

    That's asking for money mate and he has been doing it for years, as well as asking
    us to STOP looking for Africa debts. He's actually causing more trouble in Africa!

    By not paying back or trying to pay back, the Africans are simply
    going to be shunned. Nobody but nobody allows debts to go unpaid!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Has it? Africa's still just as bad as it always was. Starvation, murder, rape and child soldiers are still the order of the day.

    In fact its worse than ever, western aid is fueling a population boom which is leading to further misery..

    Personally i loathe bono for being a hypocrite.. if he is so concerned about africa he should donate his fortune..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭rowlandbrowner


    Wikipedia wrote:

    Bono was 14 when his mother died on 10 September 1974 after suffering a cerebral aneurysm at her father's funeral.[2] Many songs from U2's albums, including "I Will Follow", "Mofo", "Out of Control", "Lemon" and "Tomorrow", focus on the loss of his mother.[20][21][2][22]


    That's a horrible thing to call his mother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Terry wrote: »
    How the **** would I know where he was when our government was screwing around?
    I'm not his publicist.

    He is asking Western governments to let go of any money owed to them by poor African governments.
    He's not asking any of you for any of your money.

    It will have a tiny little effect on your income tax. So ****ing small that you wouldn't notice it.

    However, you would all prefer to hang onto those few cents and bitch and moan about Bono.


    See that road you drive on in the morning?
    Well some German dude wants his chunk of it back.

    We're all quite happy to take money off our EU neighbours, but when it comes to giving a few cents a year to Africa, then all hell breaks loose.

    You are the hypocrites.

    You do realise that without the tax money of other European, that the N4 to Galway would still be a dirt road and we would all still be suckling at the teet of the British.

    Most of you would probably have been forced to leave the country to get work, but none of that matters, because Bono made a shrewd business move and asked us for a few cents.

    Get a ****ing grip and remember where we were before the generous tax payers of the EU bailed our collective arses out of the water and built the motorways you now drive on in your big ass cock too small so I make up for it by driving something out of a movie car.

    I'll tell you what.
    I'll give you all a Euro. Will that make you happy?
    I mean that's more than you are giving in taxes to piss poor people in Africa, but that doesn't matter, because Bono moved some of his business interests to another EU country.

    I'll even buy the envelope and stamp or I can just transfer it via paypal.

    Just make sure to spend it up North or to hire some foreign worker to do some menial job in your house and watch him transfer it home via WesternUnion.

    Of course, it doesn't matter that the country is going to crap and you are all helping by spending your money outside the country, because Bono made a wise investment.

    It doesn't matter that he brings in tourists every year who actually do spend money here (unlike some of you) because Bono tried to help some starving people by donating his well known name, his time and lots of his own money (but you don't want to hear about that, do you, you self righteous idiots?) to charity and all he asked for in return was a few cents that you would probably piss up against a wall instead of trying to help some starving people just because some Irish person who made it in the music industry, while you're still being the douche at parties with that acoustic guitar and that bitter taste in your talentless mouth and you hate the fact that he made it and you didn't.

    Get you ****ing priorities right before you start mouthing off and remember that you would have nothing in this country were it not for the taxes of other people from other countries.


    So if I think Bono is a hypocrite and an arse I hate Africa and don't want to give them money?:confused:

    B*ll*cks to that. I have no problem giving money to Africa. No need to increase taxes to do it. There are plenty of NGO's and the money from them generally gets to the areas that need it more than government donations too.

    It has nothing to do with me giving money to Africa, it has to do with being told that our tax money should go to Africa. We pay taxes to upkeep the country and a certain percentage of it goes to helping impoverished areas. Now we are being told it isn't enough and the millions in personal donations that Irish people make a year isn't even included in Bono's calculations. B*ll*cks to that, it is a publicity stunt to keep him in the media until the new album is released and nothing more.

    Fooking working too by the looks of this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Orange69 wrote: »
    In fact its worse than ever, western aid is fueling a population boom which is leading to further misery..

    Personally i loathe bono for being a hypocrite.. if he is so concerned about africa he should donate his fortune..
    Perfect point. Bono's incessant waffling and interfering is leading to this population increase which cannot be sustained, even in developed bloody countries
    He is promoting population increase without thinking of its consequences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    walshb wrote: »
    So now you are lecturing us on how 'we won't miss the money?':rolleyes:

    The damn cheek!

    I don't think you admire or like Bono; I think you ARE Bono!:D I notice you never bothered to
    TRY to argue my point of Bono's silence when Irealnd has injustice issues. Sweet!

    If Bono is asking us to each give 1%, then he should make a pledge and a recorded
    pledge of 10 percent, then I might just take the twat serious!

    But Bono's clever, he knows it's a black hole and the money is usually squandered!

    You are one of three things Terry, you are EITHER an African, Bono's publicist or BONO himself

    So Bono is NOT asking for us to commit a part of our GDP to Africa?

    That's asking for money mate and he has been doing it for years, as well as asking
    us to STOP looking for Africa debts. He's actually causing more trouble in Africa!

    By not paying back or trying to pay back, the Africans are simply
    going to be shunned. Nobody but nobody allows debts to go unpaid!
    He does actually give some of his money to charity and he does actually pay some taxes here.

    See, he didn't move all of his buisness interest to The Netherlands. He moved some of them.

    But that's not the point isi t?

    You all just want to believe what the New Sensationalist has to say.

    Ah well. Of you go to the pub to give out about him some more.
    See you at the next gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    brim4brim wrote: »
    So if I think Bono is a hypocrite and an arse I hate Africa and don't want to give them money?:confused:

    B*ll*cks to that. I have no problem giving money to Africa. No need to increase taxes to do it. There are plenty of NGO's and the money from them generally gets to the areas that need it more than government donations too.

    It has nothing to do with me giving money to Africa, it has to do with being told that our tax money should go to Africa. We pay taxes to upkeep the country and a certain percentage of it goes to helping impoverished areas. Now we are being told it isn't enough and the millions in personal donations that Irish people make a year isn't even included in Bono's calculations. B*ll*cks to that, it is a publicity stunt to keep him in the media until the new album is released and nothing more.

    Fooking working too by the looks of this thread.

    I wouldn't be so sure of these so called NGO's Again, what have any of these done for Irish people. These NGO's are businesses like any other with high paid workers.
    Poverty is business and wherever there is misery and poverty, someone is making bloody money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Terry wrote: »
    He does actually give some of his money to charity and he does actually pay some taxes here.

    See, he didn't move all of his buisness interest to The Netherlands. He moved some of them.

    But that's not the point isi t?

    You all just want to believe what the New Sensationalist has to say.

    Ah well. Of you go to the pub to give out about him some more.
    See you at the next gig.
    Oh he does does he, well that solves it doesn't it?

    Can you provide details or is it 'his own business'

    Well if he's so insistent on sticking his nose into my business and
    telling me how much I should donate, then I think I am entitled to know
    exactly what this PUBLIC figure is donating.

    So, what is it?

    How much?

    When?

    To whom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    walshb wrote: »
    Perfect point. Bono's incessant waffling and interfering is leading to this population increase which cannot be sustained, even in developed bloody countries
    He is promoting population increase without thinking of its consequences
    Perhaps we should sterilise the Africans. That would stop those bloody ****ers from reproducing. The cheek of them.

    So wait. By helping to feed starving people, he is actually doing them more harm because they have the cheek to have children and share that food with their children?

    I give up.
    You're all ****ing mad.


    Oh yeah, he's also responsible for the problems created by Mary Harney..

    I was joking at first with the links to the paedophile and the stuff about eating African babies, but you have all outdone me with your sterling work on turning him into a mass murderer and the man responsible for the HSE.

    Well done to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    See Terry, that's why you are letting yourself down; you are constantly trying
    to make out that people who disagree with Bono then automatically dislike Africans.

    How damn rude and silly of you. I do not dislike any man or any nationality. I am pointing out the trouble he may be causing by his policies, whether it be in Africa, Asia anywhere.

    You are foolishly and ignorantly playing the 'race card' when it has ZERO to do with this.

    The single biggest problem in the third world IMO is the incessant interference
    in their affairs by people like Bono, Geldof and other western figures as well as western governments

    Africa needs to govern themselves and be allowed to do so. Far too many
    folks are making millions and millions from poverty in Africa, WESTERNS most definiteley
    included. It's a vicious circle; and for you to berate people on a thread and make out they hate Africans because they dislike Bono's agenda shows how ignorant you are!

    You obviously don't seem to know how vital and important an issue like population increase is and how
    in this current climate, with food shortage so prevalent, how destructive it can be. This is a worldwide
    issue, not just an African issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    walshb wrote: »
    I wouldn't be so sure of these so called NGO's Again, what have any of these done for Irish people. These NGO's are businesses like any other with high paid workers.
    Poverty is business and wherever there is misery and poverty, someone is making bloody money!

    I'd rather some businessman took some of it than some dictator who is causing the problems for his people takes most of it.

    The government don't care if the aid reaches the people or not as long as they can say they have given X amount in aid.

    At least you can research NGO's and pick one that at least appears to be getting the money to the people who need it most.

    If its absorbed by tax then its all up to the government and as stated, they don't give a crap where it goes as long as it is a charitable donation on the books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    brim4brim wrote: »
    I'd rather some businessman took some of it than some dictator who is causing the problems for his people takes most of it.

    The government don't care if the aid reaches the people or not as long as they can say they have given X amount in aid.

    At least you can research NGO's and pick one that at least appears to be getting the money to the people who need it most.

    If its absorbed by tax then its all up to the government and as stated, they don't give a crap where it goes as long as it is a charitable donation on the books.

    brim, if you really believe that guys like John O'Shea are really really genuine, though I don't think he has ever done a single charitable act on these shores, so be it. They don't fool me and a lot are funded directly by tax payers money. Africa and poverty is a business!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    walshb wrote: »
    brim, if you really believe that guys like John O'Shea are really really genuine, though I don't think he has ever done a single charitable act on these shores, so be it. They don't fool me and a lot are funded directly by tax payers money. Africa and poverty is a business!

    Na I don't donate to goal :D

    Generally I avoid charities that seem to spend half their money on advertising for more money.

    I know the CEO's get paid too much in most of these charities but at the end of the day, I don't think you could get someone to be CEO of a charity for free because it is a full time job.

    I know most still get paid too much but I don't know how you are going to stop that. I think a higher percentage of money from NGO's goes to the people that need it than from government donations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭papajimsmooth


    I heard he lures children into his ginger bread house and eats them. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    brim4brim wrote: »
    Na I don't donate to goal :D

    Generally I avoid charities that seem to spend half their money on advertising for more money.

    I know the CEO's get paid too much in most of these charities but at the end of the day, I don't think you could get someone to be CEO of a charity for free because it is a full time job.

    I know most still get paid too much but I don't know how you are going to stop that. I think a higher percentage of money from NGO's goes to the people that need it than from government donations.
    I donate to none, as I know, almost a billion Euro a year from this country is sent abroad and IMO, it's way too high. That's my bit done and when I look at the budget and see OAP's and young children being ******* robbed and then see how Ireland is increasing foreign aid, it begs the question, do the figures add up?

    If Ireland cannot afford to look after the very people who made this damn country, then it cannot afford to increase aid to FOREIGN countries. But when you ask this question, guys like Terry throw the poxy 'race card' at you:rolleyes:

    BTW, what the **** has that Billion been spent on, because Africa and Bono and all these are still out with the begging bowl?

    It's a bottomless pit of corruption, on all sides; and that includes the WEST!

    BTW, I am not saying Ireland should donate nothing. We are part of the global community and we need to assist; but where does it end and when we ourselves are cutting back on our own people, where do we draw the line. Why was foreign aid not slashed to SAVE, even a little bit, say 10 million, which could have provided the cervical jab for young girls? Why take money from Irish OAPs and others to make savings?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    walshb wrote: »
    I donate to none, as I know, almost a billion Euro a year from this country is sent abroad and IMO, it's way too high. That's my bit done and when I look at the budget and see OAP's and young children being ******* robbed and then see how Ireland is increasing foreign aid, it begs the question, do the figures add up?

    If Ireland cannot afford to look after the very people who made this damn country, then it cannot afford to increase aid to FOREIGN countries. But when you ask this question, guys like Terry throw the poxy 'race card' at you:rolleyes:

    BTW, what the **** has that Billion been spent on, because Africa and Bono and all these are still out with the begging bowl?

    It's a bottomless pit of corruption, on all sides; and that includes the WEST!

    BTW, I am not saying Ireland should donate nothing. We are part of the global community and we need to assist; but where does it end and when we ourselves are cutting back on our own people, where do we draw the line. Why was foreign aid not slashed to SAVE, even a little bit, say 10 million, which could have provided the cervical jab for young girls? Why take money from Irish OAPs and others to make savings?


    In fairness, there is plenty of money to look after our own people but how much of our tax money goes to the heads of government organisations like FAS or the HSE. If the country was run efficiently and was planned properly, we'd have a great society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    brim4brim wrote: »
    In fairness, there is plenty of money to look after our own people but how much of our tax money goes to the heads of government organisations like FAS or the HSE. If the country was run efficiently and was planned properly, we'd have a great society.

    Exactly; if it was run properly.

    So, when they were looking for the 100 million and the ten million; where did they go?

    They went after the OAP's and young girls,

    Why not get that money elsewhere and even take a small amount from the overseas budget?

    I'll tell you why; because if our government had touched a single cent from the overseas pot, there would have been uproar from the Bono's and Geldof's and O'Shea's and Mary Robinson's etc etc. This is the problem. We are held to ransom and as soon as anyone questions it, the race card is thrown at them, and we're told by said names above, that we are not committed to the poor African people.

    So, it seems fairly OK for our government to cut money from their own people, but don't dare take any money from foreigners:rolleyes:

    Can I ask you a question please: If Ireland took the 110 million from the overseas
    budget to prevent it being taken from OAP's and young Irish girls, would you have been angered,

    So the overseas budget gets cut from 900 million to 790 million. Would you have been angered?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Orange69 wrote: »
    In fact its worse than ever, western aid is fueling a population boom which is leading to further misery..

    Personally i loathe bono for being a hypocrite.. if he is so concerned about africa he should donate his fortune..

    To whom? Wouldn't that just lead to further misery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    stovelid wrote: »
    To whom? Wouldn't that just lead to further misery?

    Best damn post so far

    See like I said, Bono is clever; he knows it's a bottomless pit; but why
    is he at US to throw money into it? That's why I really dislike him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭meglome


    Haven't read this thread but if previous ones are anything to go by he's already being compared to Adolf Hitler. I don't like the tax switcheroo as it is somewhat hypocritical but otherwise the guy tries to do a lot of good. And I can safely say he's done more good in the world than anyone moaning their little arses off about him has. Sometimes Irish people piss me off and I'm not talking about Bono.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭meglome


    walshb wrote: »
    Best damn post so far

    See like I said, Bono is clever; he knows it's a bottomless pit; but why
    is he at US to throw money into it? That's why I really dislike him!

    You've lost me.

    I've been to India and you could give the shirt off your back and it would make no difference. The whole system needs to change, that's why Drop the debt is such a good idea. It links debt reduction with reforms in the recipient countries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,100 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    meglome wrote: »
    Haven't read this thread but if previous ones are anything to go by he's already being compared to Adolf Hitler. I don't like the tax switcheroo as it is somewhat hypocritical but otherwise the guy tries to do a lot of good. And I can safely say he's done more good in the world than anyone moaning their little arses off about him has. Sometimes Irish people piss me off and I'm not talking about Bono.

    Tries to do a lot of good?

    Where and how?

    Promoting population increase in countries that cannot
    sustain their current population? I ask, how the hell is this good?

    Lecturing governments on how they should
    spend their tax, whilst doing his best to himself avoid
    paying tax?

    The list goes on.

    If the chap wasn't so arrogant and in your face and if he himself paid
    his tax here and donated a chunk of his wealth, then maybe
    there would be a thread 'praising Bono'

    He is acting in a hypocritical manner. It's so blatant and obvious to me anyway

    Can we not question the guys motive now? Can we not challenge him even?

    What sort of world would that be, if we couldn't even ask questions?

    **** sake, If I were going around lecturing folks on charity and telling them
    to donate, I would at LEAST do the act myself. Lead by example, that's all!

    Oh, and I might even start the charity bandwagon at HOME first!


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