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Fás Debacle [Merged]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Manicures and Golf aside, what's worrying me even more is that sections of the FAS accounts submitted to the Public Accounts Committee were blacked out.

    I mean, WTF?

    Also, serious questions need to be answered in relation to FAS sending Paddy the Plasterer over to the US at a cost of €4.5K without him having any official duties to fulfill.

    The whole thing is starting to totally eclipse Haughey's Charvet shirts scandal.

    I was once merely annoyed. Now the people who run this country are beginning to make me physically sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Joe Public

    This isn't America. We don't have a 'Joe' Public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    This isn't America. We don't have a 'Joe' Public.

    How's about "Pat Shafted"? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭dixiefly


    and not before time too. Let's hope the board follow him out the door.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1125/fas.html

    Ireland
    FÁS Director General resigns
    Tuesday, 25 November 2008 23:28
    The Director General of FÁS, Rody Molloy, has resigned.

    The announcement was made shortly before 11pm by Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise Mary Coughlan.

    In her statement she thanked Mr Molloy for his many years of public service both in the Department of Enterprise, Trade & Employment and for the past eight years as Director General of FÁS.

    AdvertisementMr Molloy's resignation follows a week of controversy and allegations of excessive expenses incurred by executives of FÁS.

    In a statement, State training agency FÁS said it would continue to cooperate with investigations by the Public Accounts Committee and the Comptroller and Auditor General.

    The board of FÁS said it accepted Mr Molloy's resignation with regret.

    Chairman of the board of FÁS, Peter McLoone, said it was a difficult personal decision for Mr Molloy, which was made in the best interests of the organisation.

    The State training agency spent more than €640,000 over four years on transatlantic travel promoting its Science Challenge programme.


    Yesterday, Mr Molloy defended spending by the agency.


    He said the money was spent developing relationships with the science community in Florida and that the programme was a very good one that had benefitted Irish students.

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    Audio & Video
    Prime Time: Oonagh Smyth outlines some of the expenditure at the training and employment authority
    Prime Time: Shane Ross, Senator and Business Editor of the Sunday Independent, Mary O'Rourke, Fianna Fáil TD, and Bernard Allen, Public Accounts Committee chair, discuss the revelations
    Six One News: David McCullagh, Political Correspondent, reports on today's exchanges in the Dáil over the FÁS expenses controversy
    Six One News: Labour leader Eamon Gilmore gives his view on the controversy
    Morning Ireland: Sen Shane Ross, speaking on RTÉ's Questions and Answers last night, queries the level of travel expenditure at FÁS
    Morning Ireland: Darragh O'Brien (FF), Vice Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, says the committee is currently in the process of examining FÁS
    Story from RTÉ News:
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1125/fas.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    It had to be done.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Cue mega bucks going away party.


    In Malibu perhaps, bring some of the young wans, sure they can learn how to open coconuts with their heads. Very sceintific.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭spadder


    he might be able to do a fas course in manicures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭spadder


    I now want to know why Cowen was backing this gimp yesterday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    spadder wrote: »
    I now want to know why Cowen was backing this gimp yesterday.


    presumably this cnut did this so he wont have to appear in front of the public accounts committee as he was scheduled to next week to answer their questions. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭dixiefly


    Because Cowen is such a gimp that he couldnt see anything wrong in what was done!

    Ever thought why he has such a permanent scowl? Just think, he has watched Bertie milk his position for personal gain for the last 12 years and everything turn up rosey for him only to have the tables completely turned one Bertie quit and he took over - no wonder he has become even grumpier than he used to be!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,441 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    Apparently in the recent budget, Fás didn't suffer any cutbacks at all. Makes you wonder why it's being sheltered....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Firetrap wrote: »
    Apparently in the recent budget, Fás didn't suffer any cutbacks at all. Makes you wonder why it's being sheltered....

    I would have thought an employment agency needs to be kept going more than anything during a time of massive job losses, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,441 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    I didn't mean it like that. There have been questions asked of Fas before and they were never answered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Firetrap wrote: »
    Apparently in the recent budget, Fás didn't suffer any cutbacks at all. Makes you wonder why it's being sheltered....
    Touching Fas is a political bomb.
    spadder wrote: »
    I now want to know why Cowen was backing this gimp yesterday.
    From what I understand his track record was very good, and he was held in high regard by both unions and management, so he had a good bit of support. tbh though, I think he was just trying to give your man a chance to step down with a tiny, tiny bit of dignity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Touching Fas was a political bomb.

    Fixed it for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    jhegarty wrote: »
    Fixed it for you
    You'd be surprised how many vested interests are still tied into Fas.
    They're in retreat for now, but if politicians actually start doing something you will see the consequences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    You'd be surprised how many vested interests are still tied into Fas.
    They're in retreat for now, but if politicians actually start doing something you will see the consequences.
    yeah, i knew a politician who messed with Fás before and they found him in the Liffey with concrete boots on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭book smarts


    He'll walk straight into some executive position in some other department. Or he'll be contracted in as a "consultant". He should be in jail for theft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    So he resigned, big whoop. If they're not going to do anything about the wasted millions, which has never happened in Ireland (ppars/pulse/evoting/etc) then it's pretty meaningless. Misappropriation of funds, would be quite serious in a business, leaving you open to law suits and such. Why is this guy not being hauled up in court over this? Or will he ever?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Good thing he hasn't abused that trust, or i'd look pretty foolish right about now.


    I think I know someone looking QUITE foolish right now;);)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I am sure most of you would reply with "Nah stick me in a 2 star B&B and we can fly economy too" if asked. Pfft, it's a waste of money but it's not his fault. I would have flown business class and stayed in the merrion too. So would most of ye ;) So shhh!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i



    The whole thing is starting to totally eclipse Haughey's Charvet shirts scandal.

    Don't ditch Haughey... he was the shiz nitz... We all owe him one, regardless of what he did ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Touching Fas is a political bomb.

    From what I understand his track record was very good, and he was held in high regard by both unions and management, so he had a good bit of support. tbh though, I think he was just trying to give your man a chance to step down with a tiny, tiny bit of dignity.


    Always worry when I hear that....where did Mcloone come from ??

    Impact I think...ummmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    From what I understand his track record was very good, and he was held in high regard by both unions and management, so he had a good bit of support.
    Key word there being 'was' held in high regard.

    As Shane Ross said yesterday, FAS and IBEC and the unions are a very cozy self-supporting cartel.

    I wonder what poor sap they'll have to field to appear in front of the Public Accounts Committee tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Good to see someone step down since the country began this slide into recession and all the inner Dublin circle of chiefs, and p*** on the little people attitude exposed for all to see.

    The blood letting should only be starting with the following people next:

    - CEO's & chairmen of all the main Irish owned banks who have brought the country to its knees in debt through bad management; need to go right now before re-capitalisation, as happened in Britian.

    - Add most of the banking board as well.

    - Financial Regulator

    - Governor of the central bank

    Hope Shane Ross continues his good work, maybe this is a start of a cleansing of our Dublin elite.

    PS: Fine Gael now need to publically call for this reform (heads to roll) and stop backing the FF line of sort the issues first then removal; because in this situation all concerned will attempt to "ride out the storm".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭G


    pvt.joker wrote: »
    presumably this cnut did this so he wont have to appear in front of the public accounts committee as he was scheduled to next week to answer their questions. :mad:
    He still has to appear, but that is just an inconvenience to him and ultimately he will walk away unpunished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Key word there being 'was' held in high regard.

    As Shane Ross said yesterday, FAS and IBEC and the unions are a very cozy self-supporting cartel.

    I wonder what poor sap they'll have to field to appear in front of the Public Accounts Committee tomorrow?


    Some of the geezers with €six figure limits on their credit cards, hopefully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Is it not completely hypocritical to sack this fella over wasting money, after all the sh*te the government has spent our money on? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    He wasn't sacked,he resigned.

    It's a start Dave,it's a start,we can sack the others ourselves at the next election


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I thought I sacked them last time? :p Apparantly others had another idea...


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