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FlutterinBantam · 25-11-2008 06:43PM #1

Listening to the radio and hearing of the utter wastage of taxpayers funds shunting Fás execs all around the world makes me realise why this country is in the situation it's in.

How,I say again how, is that guy Molloy still at the helm in that organisation is totally beyond me.

Has no one any honour in this country and has no one any balls in Govt. when this apparent misuse of taxpayers money is laid wide open before us.

How is this guy still in charge???

SheroN · 25-11-2008 06:46PM

FAS do good work around apprenticeships. Other than that the organisation is a waste of tax payers money.

ART6 · 25-11-2008 06:48PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Listening to the radio and hearing of the utter wastage of taxpayers funds shunting Fás execs all around the world makes me realise why this country is in the situation it's in.

How,I say again how, is that guy Molloy still at the helm in that organisation is totally beyond me.

Has no one any honour in this country and has no one any balls in Govt. when this apparent misuse of taxpayers money is laid wide open before us.

How is this guy still in charge???

I wouldn't have a problem with chief execs of major public bodies flying first class on department business -- their status and responsibilities entitle them to that. What I do have a problem with is whole gangs of managers being entertained lavishly at top class hotels in the guise of "meetings" or "fact finding".

AckwelFoley · 25-11-2008 06:49PM

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Has no one any honour

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lol, The Irony

themadchef · 25-11-2008 06:50PM

Aww come on now, you're just jealous of his gold plated bidet,

wonder if he pays someone to wipe his ass.......

Patricide · 25-11-2008 06:50PM

Fas do a lot o god for people,i gained employment because of their sound engineering course, enjoyed my time there and recieved a lot o hands on practical experiance in a short period of time.

Guy:Incognito · 25-11-2008 06:50PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Listening to the radio and hearing of the utter wastage of taxpayers funds shunting Fás execs all around the world makes me realise why this country is in the situation it's in.

Fas executives flying first class brought down the world economy? Cool.

25-11-2008 06:52PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

How is this guy still in charge???

Isn't he a graduate of the George Bush school of taxation waste? Makes you want to bailout?

FlutterinBantam · 25-11-2008 06:53PM

Stekelly wrote: »

Fas executives flying first class brought down the world economy? Cool.

Did I say that?

Don't think I did.

AckwelFoley · 25-11-2008 06:57PM

Stekelly wrote: »

Fas executives flying first class brought down the world economy? Cool.

exactly.

More red top media driven "scandal"

Fodder for the dumb.

The sooner people realise that ireland is a pimple on the scales of world economies and when these ppl realise that irelands success is entirely based on the prosperity and strendth of other nations the better.

When other nations suffer a resession like the UK and the US.. we will to

Nehaxak · 25-11-2008 06:58PM

It's the whole "entitled" to travel first class that really annoys me, the cheeky bastard, after all the stuff that's been said he comes out and says he was "entitled" to travel first class.

Hi here's your P45, thanks, cya now...

mike65 · 25-11-2008 07:02PM

More red top media driven "scandal"

Public sector pigs with thier snouts in the trough

Sack em all. FAS only managed to place 50% of its inmates during the boom. Its got a billion euro budget and its science challenge project manager John Cahill amassed bills of over €29,000 for seven transatlantic journeys.

Its a hard life

Mike

FlutterinBantam · 25-11-2008 07:04PM

Its budget is 20 million A WEEK:eek::eek::eek:

Hitchhiker's Guide to... · 25-11-2008 07:04PM

Nehaxak wrote: »

It's the whole "entitled" to travel first class that really annoys me, the cheeky bastard, after all the stuff that's been said he comes out and says he was "entitled" to travel first class.

Hi here's your P45, thanks, cya now...

Perks of the job he was offered. We all take advantage of the perks we are given in our job. Don't blame him, blame the people who gave him this employment contract.

thelordofcheese · 25-11-2008 07:04PM

I'm not sure what the OP expects from people, i find it hard to get worked up over nothing so.... i guess......erm.....

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Was that it? Is that what's expected of me?

FlutterinBantam · 25-11-2008 07:13PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I'm not sure what the OP expects from people, i find it hard to get worked up over nothing so.... i guess......erm.....

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Was that it? Is that what's expected of me?

I expect people in a position of trust using taxpayers money not to abuse that trust.

Would have thought that was fairly obvious???

Nehaxak · 25-11-2008 07:16PM

mike65 wrote: »

Its a hard life

OMFG ! :eek::eek::eek:

How the fck was this allowed to go on for so long ?

Hitchhiker's Guide to... · 25-11-2008 07:17PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I expect people in a position of trust using taxpayers money not to abuse that trust.

Would have thought that was fairly obvious???

He wasn't abusing trust. The terms & conditions of his job give him this perk

mikedragon32 · 25-11-2008 07:17PM

themadchef wrote: »

Aww come on now, you're just jealous of his gold plated bidet,

wonder if he pays someone to wipe his ass.......

It's done on an apprenticeship.

ejmaztec · 25-11-2008 07:19PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Listening to the radio and hearing of the utter wastage of taxpayers funds shunting Fás execs all around the world makes me realise why this country is in the situation it's in.

How,I say again how, is that guy Molloy still at the helm in that organisation is totally beyond me.

Has no one any honour in this country and has no one any balls in Govt. when this apparent misuse of taxpayers money is laid wide open before us.

How is this guy still in charge???

Biffo thinks Molloy' doing a great job, but this is the same Biffo who tells us that we're patriots if we get ripped off.

New National Anthem "Mad World".

FlutterinBantam · 25-11-2008 07:19PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

He wasn't abusing trust. The terms & conditions of his job give him this perk

I am well aware of that, but I think most reasonable people would consider he pushed out the boat a bit.

Anyway Thursday should be interesting.

happenstance · 25-11-2008 07:43PM

Hi folks

Can anyone clarify if Rody Molloy, Director General of FAS is Brian Cowen's brother-in-law? I know Mrs Cowen is nee Molloy.

Heard this today, but surely it isn't true... bit too close for comfort if it is & should make Thursday all the more interesting.

Nehaxak · 25-11-2008 07:52PM

His Sister's best friend Alice, who has a friend called Joan is also best friends with the brother of Cowen's friends second cousin who knows a friend who once saw a UFO off the coast of Mayo, told me that was affirmative.

thelordofcheese · 25-11-2008 08:05PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I expect people in a position of trust using taxpayers money not to abuse that trust.

Would have thought that was fairly obvious???

Good thing he hasn't abused that trust, or i'd look pretty foolish right about now.

Caoimhín · 25-11-2008 08:08PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

He wasn't abusing trust. The terms & conditions of his job give him this perk

Strange terms and conditions of a job that allows for a $600 manicure for your wife.

Robbo · 25-11-2008 08:11PM

Nehaxak wrote: »

His Sister's best friend Alice, who has a friend called Joan is also best friends with the brother of Cowen's friends second cousin who knows a friend who once saw a UFO off the coast of Mayo, told me that was affirmative.

I believe Cowen has been living next door to Alice for 24 years, waiting for his chance...

FlutterinBantam · 25-11-2008 08:12PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Good thing he hasn't abused that trust, or i'd look pretty foolish right about now.

Did I say HE did??

Don't think so;)

ejmaztec · 25-11-2008 08:14PM

Caoimhín wrote: »

Strange terms and conditions of a job that allows for a $600 manicure for your wife.

I think that they are the same terms and conditions that allow supervisors etc, on various Fas projects, to also spread their our wealth around the countryside.

Guy:Incognito · 25-11-2008 08:32PM

I know a few people who've had Champagne on the company credit cards of O2 while on nights out with mates. (not me

)

Entertainment and such is budgeted for clients and the like by most big companies I'd imagine, obviously intended for entertaining clients. These things get abused.

Theres plenty of public bodies that spend theur budgets any way they can to make sure it isnt cut for the following year.

Funny how no one cared about these things when there was plenty of money floating around yet they then blame the government for being complacent.

ejmaztec · 25-11-2008 08:47PM

Stekelly wrote: »

I know a few people who've had Champagne on the company credit cards of O2 while on nights out with mates. (not me )

Entertainment and such is budgeted for clients and the like by most big companies I'd imagine, obviously intended for entertaining clients. These things get abused.

Theres plenty of public bodies that spend theur budgets any way they can to make sure it isnt cut for the following year.

Funny how no one cared about these things when there was plenty of money floating around yet they then blame the government for being complacent.

I don't think that it was out in the open when there was plenty of money around and Joe Public should be concerned with how his income tax is being spread about. It's obviously ok to claim expenses, but some people do bend the claims to their advantage. One example of this was when someone had to go on a 200 mile legitimate trip. The person actually went on the train but claimed mileage as if it were for a car journey, thereby making substantially more on the claim.

kevmy · 25-11-2008 08:56PM

Yeah it's OTT but I can't believe people are shocked by this.

This sh1t is going on all over the country in public and private sectors but no one cares during the good times. Now the bad times are on again people are getting all worked up.

It has to be said that the private sector are much more efficient at tightening their belts due to the terms of employment. The public sector is always a bit more bloated and a more difficult to control. Add to that 10+ yrs of good times and the fact that no government has given it a good overhaul in ~20yrs this is what happens.

In short no oversight + plenty of money = plenty of waste

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