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Visions of Our Lady
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My point would be that the faith which it kept alive was not the faith of the New Testament church.But the Catholic Church accepts Our Lady and Our Lady's Rosary, something that kept faith alive in this country?
Nowhere there do we find the Christians praying to Mary, saying the Rosary, worshiping with altars and priests, incense, images, priestly robes, mitres, etc. Those are the marks of the pagan religions, which the Roman church gradually imported.
Was God obliged to accept this worship? No, for He makes it clear that any church that turns from the way and refuses to repent will be cast off. His church will continue with those who hold to His doctrine and precepts: See His message to the churches of Asia in Revelation chapters 2 and 3:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%202-3;&version=50;0 -
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They are talking about the image of an indian woman and child,also other people,
The picture of them is on the website
www.sancta.org/intro.html - 8k
Seems more a case of "Man in the Moon", or the faces on Mars, than anything else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_Moon
I can see a gun to the right and side of the "bearded man" and to the right the face of a lizard.
Also the painting is of a European lady, when the claim was that she appeared as a native American.0 -
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Sofa_King Good wrote: »Peckham
That was a funny episode. Im afriad the Peckham one was a crying statue, not a vision. And the Catholic Church never did ratify it so I think there is a good chance that it may have been false
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Seems more a case of "Man in the Moon", or the faces on Mars, than anything else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_Moon
I can see a gun to the right and side of the "bearded man" and to the right the face of a lizard.
Also the painting is of a European lady, when the claim was that she appeared as a native American.
The real image of mary is not a painting,
To me she looks like a native indian woman
In one of the pictures you have what looks like a woman with a child also some more people
The Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe as a Pictograph
The Image of Our Lady is actually an Aztec
Pictograph which was read and understood
quickly by the Aztec Indians.
1. THE LADY STOOD IN FRONT OF
THE SUN
She was greater than the dreaded
Huitzilopochtli, their sun-god of war.
2. HER FOOT RESTED ON THE
CRESCENT MOON
She had clearly crushed Quetzalcoatl,
the feathered serpent moon-
god.
3. THE STARS STREWN ACROSS THE
MANTLE
She was greater than the stars of heaven which they worshipped. She
was a virgin and the Queen of the heavens for Virgo rests over her
womb and the northern crown upon her head. She appeared on
December 12, 1531 and the stars that she wore are the constellations of
the stars that appeared in the sky that day!
4. THE BLUE‑GREEN HUE OF HER MANTLE
She was a Queen because she wears the color of royalty.
5. THE BLACK CROSS ON THE BROOCH AT HER NECK
Her God was that of the Spanish Missionaries, Jesus Christ her son who
died on the cross for all mankind.
6. THE BLACK BELT
She was with child because she wore the Aztec Maternity Belt.
7. THE FOUR PETAL FLOWER OVER THE WOMB
She was the Mother of God because the flower was a special symbol
of life, movement and deity-the center of the universe.
8. HER HANDS ARE JOINED IN PRAYER
She was not God but clearly there was one greater than Her and she
pointed her finger to the cross on her brooch.
9. THE DESIGN ON HER ROSE COLORED GARMENT
She is the Queen of the Earth because she is wearing a contour map of
Mexico telling the Indians exactly where the apparition took place.
The Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe and Science
1. The image to this date, cannot be explained by science.
2. The image shows no sign of deterioration after 450 years!
The tilma or cloak of Saint Juan Diego on which the image of Our Lady
has been imprinted, is a coarse fabric made from the threads of the
maguey cactus. This fiber disintegrates within 20-60 years!
3. There is no under sketch, no sizing and no protective over-varnish on the
image.
4. Microscopic examination revealed that there were no brush strokes.
5. The image seems to increase in size and change colors due to an
unknown property of the surface and substance of which it is made.
6. According to Kodak of Mexico, the image is smooth and feels like a
modern day photograph. (Produced 300 years before the invention of
photography.)
7. The image has consistently defied exact reproduction, whether by brush
or camera.
8. Several images can be seen reflected in the eyes of the Virgin. It is
believed to be the images of Juan Diego, Bishop Juan de Zumarraga,
Juan Gonzales, the interpreter and others.
9. The distortion and place of the images are identical to what is produced
in the normal eye which is impossible to obtain on a flat surface.
10. The stars on Our Lady's Mantle coincide with the constellations in the
sky on December 12, 1531. All who have scientifically examined the
image of Our Lady over the centuries confess that its properties are
absolutely unique and so inexplicable in human terms that the image can
only be supernatural!0 -
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