Light bulb ban

kaimera · 10-10-2008 08:33AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

cupboards / cars should use LED's in the future

LEDs: good enough for Audi...good enough for yore cupboards

ven0m · 10-10-2008 09:22AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

cupboards / cars should use LED's in the future

Cars with LED lights seem to have a high fail rate NCT's, as the LED's show as 'blue'. I had THREE sets of white LED's put in my car for an NCT, & they failed & the reason they cited 'blue', even when I showed them the packets & bought a second set, & put it through a SECOND time. Only when I put in regular bulbs did it pass.

The lightbulb ban thing is bull**** anyway - & I do my shopping in N.I., so I'll be stocking up from up there, where there's still a modicum of freedom from facists like Herr Gormley & his grass-nazi's.

Run_to_da_hills · 10-10-2008 09:33AM

ven0m wrote: »

anyway - & I do my shopping in N.I., so I'll be stocking up from up there, where there's still a modicum of freedom from facists like Herr Gormley & his grass-nazi's.

Smuggling incandescent bulbs into the country will be illegal and incur severe penalties similar to that of importing fireworks :eek:

ven0m · 10-10-2008 09:53AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Smuggling incandescent bulbs into the country will be illegal and incur severe penalties similar to that of importing fireworks :eek:

It's not smuggling, it's free trade from another E.U. state where taxes have been paid. I'd like to see them enforce it, as it'll end up before the european courts & Gormless will be forced to stand down & stop being such a hypocrit.

Anyone notice how the green party fly post for elections & use cable ties that are made from petroleum, & they use a van to go from lamp-post to lamp-post to put said posters up?

I tackled a local candidate about it & he slammed my sliding door saying 'he doesn't have to put up with this at the door'. I reminded him he knocked at my door, & ended up ringing Green party offices to complain without so much as an apology for their candidates behaviour at MY door.

The green party in ireland are facists who don't actually care about the environment one damned iota. The fact they will not even look at green I.T. services within Government or seek to make it a mandate says it all, since I.T. services are generally considered one of the largest contributers to energy waste globally.

Screw the greens & their policies .......

Kintarō Hattori · 10-10-2008 09:56AM

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

If they are mass produced in China with questionable materials by workers earning one euro per day?

Maybe that's changing? Have you not noticed the cost of things produced in China going up? They are slowly introducing unions, health and safety regulations etc.

Dinter · 10-10-2008 10:01AM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Maybe that's changing? Have you not noticed the cost of things produced in China going up? They are slowly introducing unions, health and safety regulations etc.

Oh I thought they only introduced lead paint and melamine into infant's diets. They do unions too?

Hellrazer · 10-10-2008 10:05AM

The countries falling apart and all the greens are worried about is f*cking lightbulbs.
Says it all really.

Kintarō Hattori · 10-10-2008 10:12AM

Dinter wrote: »

Oh I thought they only introduced lead paint and melamine into infant's diets. They do unions too?

Well these things hardly happen overnight.

ART6 · 10-10-2008 01:25PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

The countries falling apart and all the greens are worried about is f*cking lightbulbs.
Says it all really.

Also, I understand that the manufacturing industry and the EU Commission have already warned Gormless & Co that the replacement of incandescents from January next year is unrealistic and unachievable. In spite of that expert evidence Gormley of course knows better. I was always of the understanding that anyone who insists he is right when all of the evidence suggests that he is wrong is a fool. But that's the Green Gestapo all over, isn't it?

10-10-2008 01:47PM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Maybe that's changing? Have you not noticed the cost of things produced in China going up? They are slowly introducing unions, health and safety regulations etc.

More to do with the price of oil, as well as the fact that the chinese are loosening their grip on exchange controls and letting their currency float making their exports more expensive.

10-10-2008 01:50PM

ven0m wrote: »

Cars with LED lights seem to have a high fail rate NCT's, as the LED's show as 'blue'. I had THREE sets of white LED's put in my car for an NCT, & they failed & the reason they cited 'blue', even when I showed them the packets & bought a second set, & put it through a SECOND time. Only when I put in regular bulbs did it pass.

If that's the case then the NCT needs to be amended to take into account the changes in lamp technology, or ban their fitting in vehicles full stop!

skelliser · 10-10-2008 01:54PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

The countries falling apart and all the greens are worried about is f*cking lightbulbs.
Says it all really.

+1 Fookin damn right!
Imagine the cabinet meetings, all the FF'ers sittin there lookin at these gob****e greens harpin on about lightbulbs!
ya....well done lads!

SEPT 23 1989 · 10-10-2008 01:58PM

ven0m wrote: »

It's not smuggling, it's free trade from another E.U. state where taxes have been paid. I'd like to see them enforce it, as it'll end up before the european courts & Gormless will be forced to stand down & stop being such a hypocrit.

Anyone notice how the green party fly post for elections & use cable ties that are made from petroleum, & they use a van to go from lamp-post to lamp-post to put said posters up?

I tackled a local candidate about it & he slammed my sliding door saying 'he doesn't have to put up with this at the door'. I reminded him he knocked at my door, & ended up ringing Green party offices to complain without so much as an apology for their candidates behaviour at MY door.

The green party in ireland are facists who don't actually care about the environment one damned iota. The fact they will not even look at green I.T. services within Government or seek to make it a mandate says it all, since I.T. services are generally considered one of the largest contributers to energy waste globally.

Screw the greens & their policies .......

well said hopefully these zealots will be put to the sword at the next election
the average person on the street is sick to the teeth of this sect lecturing us on how we should live our lives

lost marbles · 10-10-2008 02:08PM

"GET YOUR WRAPPING PAAAPER TEN SHEETS FOR A URO" PISST WANNA BUY 100WATT LIGHT BULBS ":D
whats this with the greens do they want the accolade of the party that did turn out the lights in ireland .
whats next ? we all will have to sh1te into a barrel of sawdust

Capt'n Midnight · 10-10-2008 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If that's the case then the NCT needs to be amended to take into account the changes in lamp technology, or ban their fitting in vehicles full stop!

I reckon the problem is in the lamp technology. Far too many "white" LED's are blue, which is as far away from yellow as you can get. Yellow being an alternative colour for headlights in some places. It would be very easy to manufacture LED clusters with more yellow/orange or change the fuorescent mixture fro ultraviolet/blue LED's

and I have very little respect for the makers of car bulbs with the way the orange coating just flakes off indicator bulbs , it should out last the bulb , coloured glass has been around for thousands of years /rant

Captain Darling · 10-10-2008 08:09PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I reckon the problem is in the lamp technology. Far too many "white" LED's are blue, which is as far away from yellow as you can get. Yellow being an alternative colour for headlights in some places. It would be very easy to manufacture LED clusters with more yellow/orange or change the fuorescent mixture fro ultraviolet/blue LED's

and I have very little respect for the makers of car bulbs with the way the orange coating just flakes off indicator bulbs , it should out last the bulb , coloured glass has been around for thousands of years /rant

Are you on acid?:D:D:D

Guy:Incognito · 10-10-2008 08:19PM

Captain Darling wrote: »

Are you on acid?:D:D:D

He's been licking the flaking paint off his indicators.:)

Sparky · 10-10-2008 08:57PM

Speaking from an electricians point of view I'm all for energy saving, but try telling a customer that their lovely chandelier will need to be replaced with CFL candle look'a'like bulbs that are hit and miss on the dimming technology.

Some of them dont seem so nice anymore.

And on the point that its for energy saving purposes and because they are inefficiant, I haven't heard much about the ban of dichroic downlights. Ya know, the ones that are between 30-50 watts depending on what spot bulb is installed. Some kitchens use up to 400+ watts just to light it!

dresden8 · 10-10-2008 09:08PM

lost marbles wrote: »

whats next ? we all will have to sh1te into a barrel of sawdust

No, you need to cut down trees to get sawdust.

You will have to ****e into barrels of the unemployed.

Wertz · 10-10-2008 09:16PM

I started stockpiling tungsten filament bulbs back at the end of last year when f*ckwit Gormley first mentioned this ban. I'm not kidding. I've about 30 bulbs most standard sizes, ranging from 40-100w. I'll buy a few more between now and january...with any luck (and good bulbs) this ban need never effect me and I need never suffer the dimness of CFLs...

Anyone that votes for the green party after the true colours they have shown since jumping into bed with FF needs their head reading...as someone with environmental and green leanings, I'd be the type that should be voting for them...tbh I'd sooner vote for Dermot Ahern. The greens are the next PDs...disband now and go live someplace else you f*cking fascists...

Run_to_da_hills · 10-10-2008 09:43PM

ART6 wrote: »

The EU, apparently, has told the Irish government that the ban might be unworkable, since under the EU free trade rules there is nothing to stop a retailer simply importing incandescent bulbs from suppliers in another member state where they are not banned.

According to the following article the EU has set to ban them from 2010. Consider this another "first" for Ireland along with the plastic bag levy, smoking bans, free pension travel, nationalising the banks etc etc.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/europe-follows-ireland-in-highenergy-light-bulb-ban-1496095.html

I can foresee the government introducing the dreaded "glimmer man" to watch out for and prosecute those still using illegal high wattage incandescent bulbs

Blisterman · 11-10-2008 02:42AM

Personally I think a tax is a much more feasible option than a ban. Have a tax, equal to the cost of offsetting the carbon emmited in the lifetime of the bulb, and then let people choose if the extra cost is worth it.

ScumLord · 11-10-2008 05:43AM

Look. I ddon't read any of this piost bar the title but the fact remains,

The Irish government should be lined up and shot. With guns, no gay up the bum stuff for them lossers.

11-10-2008 06:09AM

Blisterman wrote: »

Personally I think a tax is a much more feasible option than a ban. Have a tax, equal to the cost of offsetting the carbon emmited in the lifetime of the bulb, and then let people choose if the extra cost is worth it.

That's how the UK eliminated 2 & 3 * petrol in the 1980s' to make way for unleaded at the pumps.

Up until then 2 & 3 * petrol was cheaper than 4 * then the tax was changed, sales collapsed almost over night!

buynow · 11-10-2008 06:11AM

Wertz wrote: »

I started stockpiling tungsten filament bulbs back at the end of last year when f*ckwit Gormley first mentioned this ban. I'm not kidding. I've about 30 bulbs most standard sizes, ranging from 40-100w. I'll buy a few more between now and january...with any luck (and good bulbs) this ban need never effect me and I need never suffer the dimness of CFLs...

Anyone that votes for the green party after the true colours they have shown since jumping into bed with FF needs their head reading...as someone with environmental and green leanings, I'd be the type that should be voting for them...tbh I'd sooner vote for Dermot Ahern. The greens are the next PDs...disband now and go live someplace else you f*cking fascists...

I think I have been in your taxi

ven0m · 11-10-2008 09:43AM

What I don't get is how this ban has not for one second taken into account effects on certain people. My missus cannot use CFL's because of their 'flickering' as she suffers from photo sensitive epilepsy.

I also don't get how this issue was more important than the current market & bank crisis'. Emperors fiddling while Rome burns comes to mind.

Run_to_da_hills · 11-10-2008 09:59AM

ven0m wrote: »

What I don't get is how this ban has not for one second taken into account effects on certain people. My missus cannot use CFL's because of their 'flickering' as she suffers from photo sensitive epilepsy.

I also don't get how this issue was more important than the current market & bank crisis'. Emperors fiddling while Rome burns comes to mind.

This whole issue has absolutly nothing got to do with "light bulbs" Its all about power and supression.

ART6 · 11-10-2008 10:17AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This whole issue has absolutly nothing got to do with "light bulbs" Its all about power and supression.

And the mania of Gormley:mad:

andrewlownie101 · 11-10-2008 10:20AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This whole issue has absolutly nothing got to do with "light bulbs" Its all about power and supression.

You got that right, however the plebs cannot see even the most basic of scams.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 11-10-2008 10:23AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This whole issue has absolutly nothing got to do with "light bulbs" Its all about power and supression.

I hate having my rights to a certain types of light bulb suppressed. The Green are worse than Cromwell!

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