Woman doesn't bother paying her rent... wins a court settlement

Scootay wrote: »

It is now rented out making me a landlord. ?

technically but some people who owned a Lada used to think they had a car??

mountainyman wrote: »

Let the person who is living there stay for free otherwise yes you are a parasitic landlord scumbag.

There's a mortgage to be paid on the house and I can't afford to pay two. That's why it was out on the market.

No doubt you allow people in need to share your home for free.

Unless you're some sort of commie hypocrite of course.

Scootay wrote: »

No doubt you allow people in need to share your home for free.

The whole world is his home man. It's your home too. Mother Earth has space for everyone. We just gotta make sure that we all take stock of the gifts she gives us man. We're all on Spaceship Earth together and while nobody knows where we're going, love and faith will bring us all there as long as WE KILL ALL LANDLORDS!

Scootay wrote: »

As an aside being a skinhead who has worn a black bomber jacket on occasion I resent the implication that I am a thug. I make my living behind a desk and the only people I hit are my fellow martial artists.

Judgemental much?

oh I'm now really scared :rolleyes:

What gets under my fu*kin skin on this thread is that some people are suggesting that landlords are bulletproof business people, that they simply CANNOT be allowed to lose money/rent.

If I let a customer run up 10K on an account and subsequently can't get that from him/her for 12 months, I'm giving that person a 10K interest free loan between when the money becomes due to me and when I manage to get paid. I don't have a board that I can go running to FREE OF CHARGE, provided at taxpayers expense, to compel that debtor to pay me. I have to pay a solicitor to chase him for it, if he has assets, I could get my solicitor to take him to court for the amount, but only if he has assets. If he is a limited company I can't sue him, I can sue the company and if the company has no assets, then I lose the money.

This is the risk you take on when you get into business! You win some and you lose some, why property investors come on here with the beal bocht saying they have to sell property if they get landed with a tenant who knows the law and can't pay, is completely beyond me, this is called not having your business properly capitalised, which is a separate issue from your tenant being in arrears.

Also, what happened to due dilligence, basic cop-on and doing your homework??? If I was a landlord and saw a perfectly fit person looking to rent my house but was completely dependent on the HSE paying the rent, I'd be asking myself why that is the case??? If you are renting property, the most important thing I'd imagine you have to get right is the quality of your client, just like running a pub or a hair salon.

If you are happy to rent to someone who is your tenant for 8 years and get paid directly (and also probably get paid more than you would be paid on the open market renting to private tenants), by the HSE every month, then you can't complain when the HSE have cut backs and your tenants, and by extension, YOUR circumstances change!?!

There is no business out there that doesn't involve risk, unfortunately, some property folks are only learning that lesson now.

emmagean wrote: »

One thing to note, many posters are saying that this is a business for landlords. I'm sure there are a few that do this as their business, but to be a landlord you dont have to register as a business or sole trader with the CRO, so in the legal sense, renting out properties does not have to be carried out as a business.

If it creates a profit (or a loss for that matter), it's a business. The business entity can be a public/private limited company, a sole trader or a partnership.

Welcome to the real world, where cheques get bounced, businesses fold, debts get written off, and life goes on...

Darragh29 wrote: »

Maybe next time your going into a pub or a nightclub, you should tell the lads on the door to stay out of your wardrobe then...

Maybe next time you're leaving a pub or nightclub and you haven't had your wallet, phone or jacket nicked, haven't been assaulted by some drunken idiot and haven't been offered drugs you'll thank the lads on the door for doing a fine job.

I worked as a doorman in Dublin for 18 months and never once had to raise a hand to anyone.

NedKelly wrote: »

The housing suitation in ireland is not due to fat greedy landlords rather the banks that gave them the money and the overvalued amt that the hse provide for rental allowance

It's due to people like you buying more houses than you need, that created an unsustainable demand for property that drove house prices up to stupid levels. The banks wouldn't have lent you the funds if you didn't go asking for it!

The chickens will be coming home to roost now that cutbacks the likes of which we will not have seen before, will be visiting us next week when the budget is announced and the property parasites who have up until now been getting their rents paid by taxpayers money, will be brought back down to real world economics with an incredible fu*king bang.

Darragh29 wrote: »

property parasites

And what of the workshy parasites? They will continue to be housed and fed at the taxpayer's expense. If they were willing to work then they wouldn't need the rent allowance that the landlords receive and which you find so objectionable.

Darragh29 wrote: »

What gets under my fu*kin skin on this thread is that some people are suggesting that landlords are bulletproof business people, that they simply CANNOT be allowed to lose money/rent.

If I let a customer run up 10K on an account and subsequently can't get that from him/her for 12 months, I'm giving that person a 10K interest free loan between when the money becomes due to me and when I manage to get paid. I don't have a board that I can go running to FREE OF CHARGE, provided at taxpayers expense, to compel that debtor to pay me. I have to pay a solicitor to chase him for it, if he has assets, I could get my solicitor to take him to court for the amount, but only if he has assets. If he is a limited company I can't sue him, I can sue the company and if the company has no assets, then I lose the money.

This is the risk you take on when you get into business! You win some and you lose some, why property investors come on here with the beal bocht saying they have to sell property if they get landed with a tenant who knows the law and can't pay, is completely beyond me, this is called not having your business properly capitalised, which is a separate issue from your tenant being in arrears.

Also, what happened to due dilligence, basic cop-on and doing your homework??? If I was a landlord and saw a perfectly fit person looking to rent my house but was completely dependent on the HSE paying the rent, I'd be asking myself why that is the case??? If you are renting property, the most important thing I'd imagine you have to get right is the quality of your client, just like running a pub or a hair salon.

If you are happy to rent to someone who is your tenant for 8 years and get paid directly (and also probably get paid more than you would be paid on the open market renting to private tenants), by the HSE every month, then you can't complain when the HSE have cut backs and your tenants, and by extension, YOUR circumstances change!?!

There is no business out there that doesn't involve risk, unfortunately, some property folks are only learning that lesson now.

You're a funny guy, Darragh29. All your posts appear to be embittered against anybody that has or aspires to owning a property.

I am not a landlord, nor do I have any particular liking for them, but they are as entitled as anyone else to be fairly treated. Any landlords I ever knew had to pay for their properties - I'm pretty sure none were given to them by the HSE.

I bought my groceries every week at the local Tesco for 8 years. St Vincent de Paul paid for them. Now unfortunately I am no longer poor enough for the handout, but what the hell, I'll continue to get my groceries in Tesco every week, only now I won't pay for them.

The lady in the OP was eight years on state subsidies. Does she have a partner. Both her children look under eight, where'd they come from. In the clip there are two cars in the driveway - whose are they?

OK, the landlady took the wrong approach legally, but consider; she'd have to retain a solicitor, wait months for the issue to get to court and, even if she won she'd still be out the rent and all her costs because Lucy ain't going to pay them.

So, for the property owner it's lose-lose. It was probably less costly to pay €12k damages, I only hope the tennant doesn't get to stay also. TBH it smacks somewhat of the travellers parking up until they have squatters rights!

Darragh29 wrote: »

It's due to people like you buying more houses than you need, that created an unsustainable demand for property that drove house prices up to stupid levels. The banks wouldn't have lent you the funds if you didn't go asking for it!

The chickens will be coming home to roost now that cutbacks the likes of which we will not have seen before, will be visiting us next week when the budget is announced and the property parasites who have up until now been getting their rents paid by taxpayers money, will be brought back down to real world economics with an incredible fu*king bang.

That's as may be. Don't begrudge somebody because they got off their ass and earned some money and invested it in property. The actual parasites are the ones who take without giving.

ShooterSF wrote: »

So as I asked before, hypothetically some people get their wish and poof no more landlords. Considering this lady is unemployedI assume considering she's being helped out by the HSE where does she go now? Does the HSE buy her a house or does she end up on the streets anyway?

Not everyone can or wants to buy a house.

And there's going to be fuk all social housing for her from the State these days. Family broken up and into a hostel I reckon.

Is it any wonder landlords won't accept rent allowance?

Scootay wrote: »

Kill them with love of course.

I mean kill their parasitism and greed with love.

So yes KILL ALL LANDLORDS with love.