Should prisoners be allowed to chose Death?

Daithi McGee · 06-10-2008 09:13PM #1

Watching sky news I was hurt by the way various crimes played out but one struck me. He looked Guilty. He looked like he would die to bring the kids back.

Should that be an option? Offer your life for your crime?

dr.bollocko · 06-10-2008 09:14PM

No.

06-10-2008 09:15PM

No, they shouldn't be able to pick their own punishment.

SV · 06-10-2008 09:15PM

no.

death is often much better than a life of imprisonment.

Degsy · 06-10-2008 09:16PM

Daithi McGee wrote: »

Watching sky news I was hurt by the way various crimes played out but one struck me. He looked Guilty. He looked like he would die to bring the kids back.

Should that be an option? Offer your life for your crime?

But that wont bring back the victim will it?Unless we can somehow merege the criminal justice system with some kind of voodoo.

Jet Black · 06-10-2008 09:16PM

Life should mean life.

Pigwidgeon · 06-10-2008 09:17PM

let them rot i say, if you cant do the time don't do the crime.
too right he should feel guilty.

dr.bollocko · 06-10-2008 09:17PM

"We are all conceived in close prison; in our mothers wombs, we are close prisoners all; when we are born, we are born but to the liberty of the house; prisoners still, though within larger walls; and then all our life is but a going out to the place of execution, to death."

AlmightyCushion · 06-10-2008 09:19PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

"We are all conceived in close prison; in our mothers wombs, we are close prisoners all; when we are born, we are born but to the liberty of the house; prisoners still, though within larger walls; and then all our life is but a going out to the place of execution, to death."

So...... is that a yes or a no?

dr.bollocko · 06-10-2008 09:20PM

See post #2!

06-10-2008 09:23PM

"Crucifixion?"

"No, freedom"

CHD · 06-10-2008 09:23PM

Should OP be allowed start these type of threads.

kmart6 · 06-10-2008 09:26PM

No,they should do the time!

Guy:Incognito · 06-10-2008 09:40PM

No, it should be forced on them.

Cheapest option = best for society. Get them in, kill them within a month and theres no more ridiculous €70k a year to house each of them.

Shryke · 06-10-2008 09:45PM

If they want to kill themselves then they kill themselves. There, they've chosen death.

Also, No.

Stheno · 06-10-2008 09:48PM

Stekelly wrote: »

No, it should be forced on them.

Cheapest option = best for society. Get them in, kill them within a month and theres no more ridiculous €70k a year to house each of them.

+1

Agamemnon · 06-10-2008 09:48PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

"We are all conceived in close prison; in our mothers wombs, we are close prisoners all; when we are born, we are born but to the liberty of the house; prisoners still, though within larger walls; and then all our life is but a going out to the place of execution, to death."

John Donne, founder of the emo movement.

Zillah · 06-10-2008 09:51PM

You can't really stop someone from killing themselves if they really want to so the point is largely academic.

That said, I'd lean towards no for two reasons:
- Punishment is supposed to have a deterent effect for future criminals, knowing that they can chose a dignified death may encourage a small number that fear life in prison to break the law where they might not otherwise have done so.
- Making death officially an option could result in people choosing death as a means of saving face, even those who have committed minor crimes but feel extremely guilty/ashamed.

Guy:Incognito · 06-10-2008 09:57PM

Zillah wrote: »

- Punishment is supposed to have a deterent effect for future criminals,

Death penalty might not be a deterrent to people becoming criminals (exactly the same as jail time there) but I find it's cuts reoffending rates by a steady 100%.

Gummy Panda · 06-10-2008 10:00PM

Think of the money we'd save in a recession!!

Less prisioners means less spending on the prision system.

ART6 · 06-10-2008 10:48PM

Stekelly wrote: »

Death penalty might not be a deterrent to people becoming criminals (exactly the same as jail time there) but I find it's cuts reoffending rates by a steady 100%.

So it does. It could even be argued that in years gone by it was a deterrent too, but the rise of Islamic militants has changed all of that. In Western cultures no-one wants to die and will do everything in his/her power to avoid doing so. In Islam, martyrdom gets you seven virgins and an afterlife of luxury and plenty. So maybe the sensible approach would be to execute Western murderers etc, or allow them to commit suicide, but keep Islamic fundamentalists alive for as long as possible so that they can spend the rest of their lives in torment over the seven virgins that they can't get to:)

davyjose · 06-10-2008 10:56PM

That's only about .... half an hour of virgins. Then where are you left? With seven slags asking for foot-rubs. I'd rather die......... :eek:

4zn76tysfajdxp · 06-10-2008 11:09PM

Suicide bombers chose their deaths, why can't petty criminals?

here.from.day.1 · 06-10-2008 11:38PM

Just no.

OK-Cancel-Apply · 07-10-2008 12:01AM

I think everybody should be allowed to choose death. If you're going to kill yourself, you're going to kill yourself. At least if it was done properly you could save a) a potential mess b) family finding you c) surviving only to live disabled. But then, it would be impossible to determine if the person was of sound mind. It couldn't work.

As for criminals, well, there are monsters out there with minds broken beyond repair. Perhaps they should at least be given the option. What's the point of keeping them in prison for their whole life?

thetyreman · 07-10-2008 12:08AM

Of course they should.

But the twist should be. The ones that choose to die,dont let
And the ones that dont want to,kill the fckers.

None of there victims were given any choices were they..

redout · 07-10-2008 01:48AM

Better to let them live in misery caged like the animals they are rather than choose the easy way out.

minxie · 07-10-2008 01:53AM

totally agree. let them rot in hell

Manic Moran · 07-10-2008 01:55AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6707865.stm

Hundreds of prisoners serving life sentences in Italy have called on President Giorgio Napolitano to bring back the death penalty.

<snip>

The letter they sent to President Napolitano came from a convicted mobster, Carmelo Musumeci, a 52-year-old who has been in prison for 17 years.

It was co-signed by 310 of his fellow lifers.

Musumeci said he was tired of dying a little bit every day.

We want to die just once, he said, and "we are asking for our life sentence to be changed to a death sentence".

NTM

biko · 07-10-2008 02:31AM

Yes, life should be able to be commuted to death for really serious crimes if the prisoner so chooses.

Jigsaw · 07-10-2008 02:31AM

Manic Moran wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6707865.stm

NTM

Jesus we all make mistakes. It is well or us to be judge jury and executioner. I say a few years for first time offenders. If you do it again then throw the book at them.

Should prisoners be allowed to chose Death?

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