How would you deal with a knife attack?

April Raine · 05-09-2008 02:17PM

Boru. wrote: »

Just look at my medical practice.

Are you a medical doctor?

YeGods · 05-09-2008 02:56PM

Martin25 wrote: »

Everyone has their opinion on this and one of my Instructors told me that some advice/techniques will get you killed.
He has been stabbed and shot and survived.
What do you think is the best way?

Try to remember, if a person pulls a knife on you before a fight starts he's using it as a warning for you to get lost,and may not be intending to use it. As the others say...Run like the wind. he's not likely to chase you. He has achieved what he intended. It's the prson who pulls a knife in the middle of a fight , espically ifhe's losing, then he is the one to worry about. His mind is gone into self protection mode and is very dangerous. Again, Run, because he wants the fight to be over.
This may not always help but at leae you may be able to read the signs.

Musashi · 08-09-2008 02:01AM

Most of the folks here know that I like knives, I collect all types trying to gather as many ethnic styles of blades as I can.

I also hunt game with rifles, i have a couple of rifles and have used various pistols on various shooting ranges as a hobby.

If I was to face an attacker, trained or untrained, with a weapon (his, not mine) I would prefer to face a gun rather than a knife. The users skill is largely meaningless! A trained gunfighter will shoot you dead, a trained knifer will cut you dead, both take about as long as each other. A common misconception is that being killed with a knife means a noisy and struggling death.

Exsanguination means a knife can kill quickly.

With an untrained attacker you have some hope, but someone unfamiliar with a gun is easier to deal with than one unfamiliar or not commited to an attack with the knife.

Of course given a choice I am nowhere near any attacker, failing that I hope for a shotgun and an eejit with a knife!

Final advice for dealing with a knifer again goes to Mick Coup.

Never stop, do not give up. Most victims "self-stop". They see blood and give up.

The human organism has been around a while, watch the Discovery Channel! People receive freaky injuries and walk miles to get help. Why should being or cut be any different?

Beat the head off your attacker and go get help. People have survived massive wounds on sheer willpower, harness that "no quit" attitude and just refuse to die!

You may say this isn't an option for you, but why not? The drive to live is one of the strongest we as human animals possess, not just Olympic athletes and elite Military Units, all of us.

We all want to live and deep down we are all freaky monsters that can endure and overcome! Get some training, try to get healthier and fitter, and cultivate a toughness that means you cannot just quit and die!

cowzerp · 08-09-2008 07:06AM

Obvious thing to do is run, if thats not possible i'd say dodge as best you can and hit 1st, hard fast and dont stop till you can retreat or finish the attacker off. best of luck

Mick Coup · 08-09-2008 09:44AM

There's an old saying along the lines of 'the quality of the question determines the quality of the answer' and this applies directly to this kind of discussion.

Everything, all the advice on each and every post within this thread, will work - but only in the correct context.

Grabbing an arm, running, even kicking a knife out of someone's hand - all possible within the right scenario context, but all equally impossible out of context.

The title of the thread is what I used to determine context - a knife attack. Against an active threat, not just someone brandishing a knife, your options to run or grab an arm are virtually non-existant - that ship has sailed.

Try to turn and run against a training partner trying to murder you, one who is just as mobile as you and doesn't have to turn around first but is 'good to go' in his sprinters blocks.

Try and catch the arm of a continually slashing and stabbing attacker, going full force - who is also allowed to punch you 'as required' with his free hand.

If someone is making threats and using the weapon to highlight his demands, then this isn't actually a knife 'attack' and you can increase your reactionary gap slowly, whilst being compliant etc prior to bolting and doing an Olympic-standard sprint.

If your professional role requires that you have to confront a knife waving individual then you can secure the knife arm - providing it's not actively trying to conduct a pre-mortem examination of your lower-intestinal tract!

Right or wrong I address the worst-case 'active' threat first, the nightmare scenario - before turning the volume down to cover 'pre-active' potential threats and similar contacts.

Establish the context and usually the solution is staring you in the face - fail to do so and you talk in circles, everyone has the right answer for the wrong question or vice versa!

Mick

YeGods · 17-09-2008 09:21PM

Musashi wrote: »

Most of the folks here know that I like knives, I collect all types trying to gather as many ethnic styles of blades as I can.

I also hunt game with rifles, i have a couple of rifles and have used various pistols on various shooting ranges as a hobby.

If I was to face an attacker, trained or untrained, with a weapon (his, not mine) I would prefer to face a gun rather than a knife. The users skill is largely meaningless! A trained gunfighter will shoot you dead, a trained knifer will cut you dead, both take about as long as each other. A common misconception is that being killed with a knife means a noisy and struggling death.

Exsanguination means a knife can kill quickly.

With an untrained attacker you have some hope, but someone unfamiliar with a gun is easier to deal with than one unfamiliar or not commited to an attack with the knife.

Of course given a choice I am nowhere near any attacker, failing that I hope for a shotgun and an eejit with a knife!

Final advice for dealing with a knifer again goes to Mick Coup.

Never stop, do not give up. Most victims "self-stop". They see blood and give up.

The human organism has been around a while, watch the Discovery Channel! People receive freaky injuries and walk miles to get help. Why should being or cut be any different?

Beat the head off your attacker and go get help. People have survived massive wounds on sheer willpower, harness that "no quit" attitude and just refuse to die!

You may say this isn't an option for you, but why not? The drive to live is one of the strongest we as human animals possess, not just Olympic athletes and elite Military Units, all of us.

We all want to live and deep down we are all freaky monsters that can endure and overcome! Get some training, try to get healthier and fitter, and cultivate a toughness that means you cannot just quit and die!

Hi Musashi. I see you mentioned you collect kinves. I collect them myself and I don't know anybody else that does. i live in Co.Cork and most people raise eyebrows and mention stuff about "not breaking into your house" when i tell them about the collection.:eek:
Anyway - Let me know if you're interested in talking about blades for a bit. I'd love to know what other people collect. Lately i've been buying some Gun Brand name knives, Smith&Wesson, Colt but my favourite is a Walther Tactical fighting knife. I've also got a Gill Hibben Griffiyn (released for 2000) and I've got a standard Ka-Bar USMC fighting knife.
I've around 120 knives alltogether but only around 30 of 40 are good knives.

Thanks, YeGods.

fergal_d · 18-09-2008 03:25PM

Martin25 wrote: »

Everyone has their opinion on this and one of my Instructors told me that some advice/techniques will get you killed.
He has been stabbed and shot and survived.
What do you think is the best way?

If you look at kaotic.com its a video web site, there is 2 guys fighting then 1 stabs the other guy with a TINY knife around the chest and runs off...

The guy who got stabed isnt hurt at all just a bit of blood... he ended up dying from the injury... it had hit his heart

track and field is the best martial art for a street fight

Buzzmund · 15-10-2008 05:18PM

train your mind to the point where all you have to do is look at your attacker and his hear explodes, or buy the karate kid dvd box set hahahah

Buzzmund · 15-10-2008 05:19PM

i meant his "heart" not his hear

How would you deal with a knife attack?

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