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Work asshole spreading malicious rumours

  • 07-09-2008 03:43AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    The same guy I posted about in my previous thread,the one who lives in Sweden, has been spreading malicious rumours around my former and my bf's current work place....even though he only comes back every 2nd weekend.


    These rumours are...I fancy him,I "stalk" him, etc etc and are potentially dangerous toward my relationship....I can already tell my bf is getting a little pissed off with his work mates slagging him off about it. I decided to resolve this issue i'd send him this email:

    Look I don't know what I ever did to offend you or deserve your behaviour......
    But please stop telling people in X's i'm in to you,stalking you, or that only worked that weekend to see you...when you know none of that is true.

    I was working to buy my BOYFRIEND of 5 YEARS Who I LOVE!!!!! a new guitar for Christmas, I didn't choose that weekend,X did.
    I don't know what gave you the impression that i'm even slightly attracted to you, a few emails and adding you on a SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE, FOR FRIENDS, not a dating site.
    You are not my type, ok. You are 15 years my senior, and the same age as my dad.

    Any who, say what you want about me, i don't care if you like me or not, you live in Sweden not as if I even see you. Just don't ruin my relationship! I love X, and I don't need people ****ing it up.If I was him I'd be pretty pissed off if my gf was "stalking" another guy.


    If someone has mis-informed me as to it being you who sprouted all these stupid little rumours,you are welcome to correct me and i'll apologise, otherwise, please put a stop to it and leave me alone.I did nothing to you to warrant this malicious and quite frankly immature behaviour.
    Take Care.


    However he may have the ability to make things difficult for my bf in work. I would ask my bf about it but he is "up this guys ass" and sides with him constantly.It also makes me sick hat people would think I would stalk and or harrass another person,that I would be that desperate for attention!!!! I love my bf and have eyes for no other man, especially not a 33 year old married man who lives 100's of miles away with his wife,in Sweden. What should I do????


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I think you should stop aiming for the record of most PI threads ever.

    Seriously, just forget about these people, don't send emails, don't do anything. Just quit whatever job you have and never see any of them again, if your bf sides with this guy constantly then dump the gob****e. If worst comes to worse leave your school and complete your leaving cert in a local plc college or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    your stupid end of thread


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    you're stupid, end of thread

    Riiight...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    jackyback banned for obvious reasons.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    HouseHippo first thing is if you can get some counseling, it would likely be good for you. Your view of the world is informing your life in a negative way and there should be no stigma looking for help to fix that.

    Second thing is to take a long look at those you call friends. How they act towards you and how you may act towards them. We all make the mistake at some time in our lives of hanging around with those who are not healthy for us. We all learn with time(hopefully).

    Also nobody can really ruin a relationship other than the people in it. If your boyfriend chooses to believe the rumours or hasn't got the backbone to stand up for himself because of peer pressure, that's not swedish bloke at fault.

    Don't engage with swedish bloke again. let it go. Concentrate on your studies and if you can try and talk to a professional about your unhealthy thoughts.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    i dont think pleading with him was the best move to make. personally idhave done things i cant repeat here. but you could also have turned it around on him. instead of worrying about it you could just think about it as him wanting you. He just wishes he could have you and spreads these rumours to fuel his wanktasy. It doesnt matter if its true or not, as long as you believe it, let him know it, i think he'd shut up.

    But ultimately hippo MagicMarker might come off as the Bad Cop here but he and Wibbs not wrong. You have other things that you should be focusing your energies on, and not letting everyone around you play you like a cheap violin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Carrigart Exile


    If he is sending these messages from a works computer simply e-mail him telling him that you have passed on his e-mails to your HR department. I suspect the guy knows how easy you may be to wind up and is enjoying himself at your expense. Don't play his game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Enii


    Don't engage with him. Just ignore him.

    End of story.


    If you do engage with him you obviusly want to draw the whole situation out. Just leave it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    You are 15 years my senior, and the same age as my dad.

    Is this for real or you just posting for effect? :confused:
    Your dad was 15 when you were born, realy?
    This isn't offtopic if the OP is posting about issues.

    Anyway, as said if it's off a work pc then just take it to HR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Each individual has their own boundaries, boundaries defined by them. While you think your behaviour towards this chap is acceptable or what have you, he clearly doesn't. Although it is hurtful that this man sees your behaviour as "stalkerish" you have to take your cue from that m'dear. A long, ranting email as outlined in your OP would be a red rag to a bull quite frankly and will make this situation ten times worse for you. DISENGAGE. I want you to remember the mantra "people that mind don't matter, and people that matter don't mind". Do not under any circumstances, by thought word or deed have any more contact with this person OK?

    Edit: Just read back over your other threads and I'd be concerned that this experience would cause you to spiral into self-harm again. I'd second Wibb's advice when he said you really should look into counselling, I think it would do you good. Have you been to see your local GP?There is no stigma in seeing a professional but I think you have a lot on at present you poor sausage and being able to talk to someone qualified to help would go a long way in helping you work through and resolve a lot of your current issues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭wasper


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    The same guy I posted about in my previous thread,the one who lives in Sweden, has been spreading malicious rumours around my former and my bf's current work place....even though he only comes back every 2nd weekend.


    These rumours are...I fancy him,I "stalk" him, etc etc and are potentially dangerous toward my relationship....I can already tell my bf is getting a little pissed off with his work mates slagging him off about it. I decided to resolve this issue i'd send him this email:

    Look I don't know what I ever did to offend you or deserve your behaviour......
    But please stop telling people in X's i'm in to you,stalking you, or that only worked that weekend to see you...when you know none of that is true.

    I was working to buy my BOYFRIEND of 5 YEARS Who I LOVE!!!!! a new guitar for Christmas, I didn't choose that weekend,X did.
    I don't know what gave you the impression that i'm even slightly attracted to you, a few emails and adding you on a SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE, FOR FRIENDS, not a dating site.
    You are not my type, ok. You are 15 years my senior, and the same age as my dad.

    Any who, say what you want about me, i don't care if you like me or not, you live in Sweden not as if I even see you. Just don't ruin my relationship! I love X, and I don't need people ****ing it up.If I was him I'd be pretty pissed off if my gf was "stalking" another guy.


    If someone has mis-informed me as to it being you who sprouted all these stupid little rumours,you are welcome to correct me and i'll apologise, otherwise, please put a stop to it and leave me alone.I did nothing to you to warrant this malicious and quite frankly immature behaviour.
    Take Care.


    However he may have the ability to make things difficult for my bf in work. I would ask my bf about it but he is "up this guys ass" and sides with him constantly.It also makes me sick hat people would think I would stalk and or harrass another person,that I would be that desperate for attention!!!! I love my bf and have eyes for no other man, especially not a 33 year old married man who lives 100's of miles away with his wife,in Sweden. What should I do????
    The next time he returns from Sweden, just confronts him in front of other works colleagues. Embarrass him. Nothing like face to face confrontation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    wasper wrote: »
    The next time he returns from Sweden, just confronts him in front of other works colleagues. Embarrass him. Nothing like face to face confrontation.
    ill bring the popcorn! <--- that idea would only perpetuate matters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    wasper wrote: »
    The next time he returns from Sweden, just confronts him in front of other works colleagues. Embarrass him. Nothing like face to face confrontation.

    No OP, do not, I repeat not, confront him. It's best to walk away from situations like this with your head held high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭wasper


    Miss Fluff wrote: »
    No OP, do not, I repeat not, confront him. It's best to walk away from situations like this with your head held high.
    I beg to differ, the man is a bully. Bullies need to be confronted. They will show their true colours. Also since it's out in the open at work, it will not expose anything the workers don't know about.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I strongly agree with Miss Fluff. I agree that bullies need to be confronted in general, but in this particular case confronting him will only make this worse. It has already. He may be a bully or he may not. We are only getting one side of the story for a start. It could be wires crossed. It could be the OP tends to be clingy and he got caught up in that. He could be a nasty type who loves the attention. We don't know.

    Regardless of what's what, her confronting him will just make her look worse in this case. Guaranteed. If he is a bollex, it will reinforce what apparently he's been saying about her. "Oh look, I told you, she won't leave me alone. She waits around for me, she left the job because I "turned her down", she emails me afterward, she.... [add in possible future confrontation]. See what I mean? Any confrontation will go his way. He's a 30 odd yr old bloke, he'll well know how to angle this compared to a teenage girl.

    The best thing the OP can do is let it go. Let it go concentrate on herself and her studies and chalk this one up to an embarrassing experience. Throw in a side order of counseling to help with her unhealthy feelings and this experience and any other that have brought her to this point will be just steps on the way to her being a better person.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Overheal wrote: »
    i dont think pleading with him was the best move to make. personally idhave done things i cant repeat here. but you could also have turned it around on him. instead of worrying about it you could just think about it as him wanting you. He just wishes he could have you and spreads these rumours to fuel his wanktasy. It doesnt matter if its true or not, as long as you believe it, let him know it, i think he'd shut up.

    But ultimately hippo MagicMarker might come off as the Bad Cop here but he and Wibbs not wrong. You have other things that you should be focusing your energies on, and not letting everyone around you play you like a cheap violin.
    I can't actually see Magic Markers posts he is on my ignore list as he constantly abused my threads.

    Wanktasy, very good. I may have to steal that from you :)
    If he is sending these messages from a works computer simply e-mail him telling him that you have passed on his e-mails to your HR department. I suspect the guy knows how easy you may be to wind up and is enjoying himself at your expense. Don't play his game.
    He is spreading the rumours by word of mouth, it's not winding me up, it's messing up my relationship......
    micmclo wrote: »
    Is this for real or you just posting for effect? :confused:
    Your dad was 15 when you were born, realy?
    This isn't offtopic if the OP is posting about issues.

    Anyway, as said if it's off a work pc then just take it to HR
    My dad was 16, have you got some sort of problem with that
    Miss Fluff wrote: »
    Each individual has their own boundaries, boundaries defined by them. While you think your behaviour towards this chap is acceptable or what have you, he clearly doesn't. Although it is hurtful that this man sees your behaviour as "stalkerish" you have to take your cue from that m'dear. A long, ranting email as outlined in your OP would be a red rag to a bull quite frankly and will make this situation ten times worse for you. DISENGAGE. I want you to remember the mantra "people that mind don't matter, and people that matter don't mind". Do not under any circumstances, by thought word or deed have any more contact with this person OK?

    Edit: Just read back over your other threads and I'd be concerned that this experience would cause you to spiral into self-harm again. I'd second Wibb's advice when he said you really should look into counselling, I think it would do you good. Have you been to see your local GP?There is no stigma in seeing a professional but I think you have a lot on at present you poor sausage and being able to talk to someone qualified to help would go a long way in helping you work through and resolve a lot of your current issues.
    Ive done counselling, I have aspergers syndrome and ADD,i was made.It didn't help.


    No everything he is saying is all lies, I have only met the guy about 6 times, 3 in work, one in the pub and and two at his leaving parties.He added me on Myspace and I added him on facebook, we snet 4 email total to each other mostly about work stuff. If that is what any human being calls stalking then he is obviously the mental one


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    I can't actually see Magic Markers posts he is on my ignore list as he constantly abused my threads.

    Wanktasy, very good. I may have to steal that from you :)
    I remember in a past thread of yours i posted on in after hours, you accused me of trolling on your threads (or something along those lines) just because i happened to post something you disagreed with in a PI of yours the same day. This could not be farther from the truth. To be quite honest, if you really think i ''abuse'' your threads then it wouldn't surprise me at all if you just exaggerate everything else in your life as well.

    I'd love to get the opinions of all these people who ''bully'' you, because from your recent threads it seems to me that everyone you meet has something against you/bullies you and you're the only innocent one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    I can ignore him, it's my bf who is getting annoyed by the whole situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    So you think maybe the Aspergers is causing you to be an easy target for bullies? That is ****ing horrible, my heart goes out to you.

    However, when I hear people say "counselling doesn't work" I can't help but wonder how much work they put in themselves. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is supposed to be fantastic - would you consider it? The thing about counselling is, you have to be prepared to put things into practice and take responsibility for yourself too. It's not all up to the counsellor. I know you've been through awful **** with family deaths, living with grandparents whom you say are rather unpleasant, some very vicious bullying by schoolmates and less vicious but still nasty bullying at work... but there comes a point when we need to stop letting our problems hold us back (and I know that's easier said than done and I'm not trying to be harsh, I mean it in a respectful way).
    And work on your self esteem - it really does project outwards when a person is lacking in confidence. Worrying about what people think of you, trying to please everyone etc - bad, bad ideas. It's so obvious when people are doing that. Just be yourself and keep telling yourself if people don't like you for the way you are, **** 'em. As long as you like yourself and consider yourself a good person, that's all that matters...

    Did I read correctly that your boyfriend licks up to the Swedish guy? We are all entitled to be friends with whom we want (in general) but it still seems a rather crappy thing for him to be doing as your boyfriend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    My dad was 16, have you got some sort of problem with that

    why the aggressive tone in response to what was a genuine question by a poster? it seems you're easily affronted


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    He is spreading the rumours by word of mouth, it's not winding me up, it's messing up my relationship......
    Well clearly it is winding you up, but your relationship will be messed up by you or your boyfriend. Yes external stresses play a part but in the end your boyfriend has to stand up for himself and you or he's not much of a boyfriend frankly.
    sam34 wrote:
    why the aggressive tone in response to what was a genuine question by a poster? it seems you're easily affronted
    I tend to agree. You do have a tendency to react first and ask questions later, or assume someone is taking the píss. Now sometimes they are but not always. Maybe your asbergers is what makes it difficult for you to see the difference. Who knows? That's why I suggest further counseling. Keep looking for one until you get a good one. One that you can work with. Each of us has a worldview that is to different degrees realistic and healthy. None of us is completely well balanced and sometimes we need that help.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    Don't send that email or contact the guy again. You've alot going on at the moment and I agree with the other posters who suggest counselling.

    There does seem to be alot of drama in your life and you need to find ways to reduce that. It is unusual that your father your father had you at sixteen which is why of course someone would pick up on it. But I understand your reaction was after assuming that the poster was trying to catch you out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Karen_* wrote: »
    But I understand your reaction was after assuming that the poster was trying to catch you out.

    I wasn't trying to catch anyone out, it was a genuine question.
    But you post an agressive response OP? Why?

    Maybe it is incredibly easy for others to wind you up making you an easy target.
    Calm down for your own sake :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Dudess wrote: »
    So you think maybe the Aspergers is causing you to be an easy target for bullies? That is ****ing horrible, my heart goes out to you.

    However, when I hear people say "counselling doesn't work" I can't help but wonder how much work they put in themselves. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is supposed to be fantastic - would you consider it? The thing about counselling is, you have to be prepared to put things into practice and take responsibility for yourself too. It's not all up to the counsellor. I know you've been through awful **** with family deaths, living with grandparents whom you say are rather unpleasant, some very vicious bullying by schoolmates and less vicious but still nasty bullying at work... but there comes a point when we need to stop letting our problems hold us back (and I know that's easier said than done and I'm not trying to be harsh, I mean it in a respectful way).
    And work on your self esteem - it really does project outwards when a person is lacking in confidence. Worrying about what people think of you, trying to please everyone etc - bad, bad ideas. It's so obvious when people are doing that. Just be yourself and keep telling yourself if people don't like you for the way you are, **** 'em. As long as you like yourself and consider yourself a good person, that's all that matters...

    Did I read correctly that your boyfriend licks up to the Swedish guy? We are all entitled to be friends with whom we want (in general) but it still seems a rather crappy thing for him to be doing as your boyfriend.
    Nobody really knows I have it. I don't tell people. I did it for 2 years in the Lucena Clinic, in rathgar, it was ok however I felt the counsellors although helped me with my anxiety issues and my akwardness in social situations, they failed to touch on some important issues, which they skimmed over. I then felt once i conquered my fear of social situations, they essentially booted me out, despite the fact taht I still had somethings to work on.



    Well I have essentially moved out of my grandparents house and in with my bf which is great.Also I usually get on with everyone in work until this guy came back into the picture, I don't know exactly what it is i did but he has made me a target. Maybe he genuinely thinks im stalking him, but believe me I am far too shy to be stalking people.

    That whole, it's them not me stuff worked for me for a good year until now. I just get the feeling, if you understand that not everyone can be wrong maybe I'm just not a likeable person, i feel as if I am doomed to go through life with no friends. I realsie this is nothing compared to what some people have gone through, but still I need someone to talk to, what better than a bunch of strangers on the net.
    Also this is hitting me pretty hard as today is the one year anniversary of my mothers death and in 2 weeks there will be an inquest into her death at the coroner's court.

    Yeah,My bf feels as though he owes this guy his job etc, and yeah I suppose he does, and to most people he comes across as a lovely guy however to a select few of us, he is nasty, particularly to females....My bf is really a great guy, he has helped me through so much these past 5 years and I would be lost without him, I don;t want him to come across as an arse here
    Wibbs wrote: »
    Well clearly it is winding you up, but your relationship will be messed up by you or your boyfriend. Yes external stresses play a part but in the end your boyfriend has to stand up for himself and you or he's not much of a boyfriend frankly.

    I tend to agree. You do have a tendency to react first and ask questions later, or assume someone is taking the píss. Now sometimes they are but not always. Maybe your asbergers is what makes it difficult for you to see the difference. Who knows? That's why I suggest further counseling. Keep looking for one until you get a good one. One that you can work with. Each of us has a worldview that is to different degrees realistic and healthy. None of us is completely well balanced and sometimes we need that help.
    Its not winding me up in the sense that im annoyed tht he is talking about me just that all my bf's workmates are taking the piss out of him cause they think his gf is in love with some other guy.

    My bf is the best bf in thew world, no matter what **** im going through, he supports me, the past 5 years despite everything that has happened have been the best in my life just because he was in my life. I was lost before I met him, and thanks to him, I didn't end my life like I considered many times
    micmclo wrote: »
    Is this for real or you just posting for effect? :confused:
    Your dad was 15 when you were born, realy?
    This isn't offtopic if the OP is posting about issues.

    Anyway, as said if it's off a work pc then just take it to HR
    You accused me of saying my dad was 16 for effect. It is infact true.

    Guy just emailed me there, asking about some work spec, I just ignored it instead of writing a nasty reply.Very proud of myself:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    No, I didn't. I never once posted 16 on this thread :)
    Hey, it's unusual, of course someone will pick up

    And I only posted it as one of the first posts was about you starting loads of threads here so I wasn't sure how it tied in. I've not seen them and I hope you get the advice you want here.
    And this thread started about a work colleague and now you've brought several topics into it. Suicide for one which cannot be more serious.

    I've not seen your other threads, good luck with this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Sugar Drunk


    Ring this asshole and tell him to STFU and leave you and your BF alone or you will inform his wife about his unhealthy obsession with someone so many years his senior. God what a loser is he honestly that childish at 33?

    I am shocked that your BF is annoyed that his work mates are slagging him off yet is ass kissing the very guy who started the runmours?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭marti101


    Op i think you are going to have to learn there are boundries you dont cross.If you didnt know him that well why accept his bebo friendship.Im sorry but from your other posts you just seem to wallow in self pity.My grandparents do this,the guy in work did that.Have you no real friends that you can ask questions to rather than here.I dont mean this to be personal but how does your bf put up with you its one dram after another.i have no real advice except stop talking to the guy pay more attention to your bf otherwise youre next thread will be "Why did my bf break up with me"


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ring this asshole and tell him to STFU and leave you and your BF alone or you will inform his wife about his unhealthy obsession with someone so many years his senior.
    Have you read this thread? Do not do this. It will make things worse. It's a knee jerk reaction and the OP will come out looking worse if she does. She'll look obsessive, aggressive and flaky, which will reinforce what this man has been saying about her(or not). Let it go.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    You accused me of saying my dad was 16 for effect. It is infact true.

    Not you problem househippo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Tell him if he does not retract EVERYTHING he has said about you, you'll take him to court for harrassment and slanderous allegations. If he threatens to make life difficult for your boyfriend, then throw that on the pile too.

    Bit of zero tolerance needed in these situations TBH.


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