dont believe in climate change, come to ireland

irish_bob · 03-09-2008 11:39AM #1

i can only conclude that those who still dont believe in climate change have never been to this country or at least not in the last few years
while its always been a wet country , last year and especially this year have been nothing but relentless downpours , how can anyone not believe that things are different than they used to be , there is also every chance next summer will be just as bad and the following one , i fear weve gone past the point of no return , it may be too late to do anything about it

MarkR · 03-09-2008 11:43AM

Conspiracy Theories forum is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>

*Waves from canoe*

anti-venom · 03-09-2008 11:45AM

Maybe there's nothing we can do about it. The planet's climate fluctuates naturally and sometimes quite suddenly and violently. Perhaps we are in one of these changes right now. If we are then there's not a great deal we can do about it.

Draupnir · 03-09-2008 11:45AM

Hit the weather forum, they will tell you a tale of 1986. Climate Change = Fact, but it didn't cause the rain in Ireland last month.

Steve_o · 03-09-2008 11:46AM

Run to the hills is all thats left to do, abandon everything, loot while you can, crack peoples heads open and feast on the goo inside...

Mossy Monk · 03-09-2008 11:47AM

OP is correct. It never rained in Ireland before recent times.

gordon_gekko · 03-09-2008 12:01PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

OP is correct. It never rained in Ireland before recent times.

while im a big fan of mockery done well and you do it well , i stated clearly in the post that ireland has always been a wet country , it has never rained like it has in this past 2 yrs , never has there been such frequent downpours or such an extended perioid of awfull weather

antodeco · 03-09-2008 12:01PM

Is there anything Climate Change cant do?

Its all Dublin CC's fault

zoemax · 03-09-2008 12:15PM

How do you know that it never rained in Ireland like the last few years? Records only go back approx. 150 years, assuming that thay are accurate. two wet summers are a weather phenomena, not a sign of climate change. Perhaps a decade of wet summers would signal a more permanent change in climate and not just bad weather.

Weather and climate change continiously. The earth is billions of years old and the climate has never been constant. There were large vineyards cultivated in England during the reign of Henry VIII for example, but now you would have great difficulty cultivating grapes in England except perhaps for the very south. I do believe that climate chages is real and is happening and it has been so for billions of years, the real question is whether or not man has any significant effect on it, or is the whole green machine proaganda programme designed to prop up an industry built around this theory and to get politicians into office (it amazes me how quicky the Green party pretty much abandoned all of their policies once they got their €5k a week ministerial jobs and the mercedes). Or perhaps it is designed to keep China and India in the dark ages where they belong rather than have them threaten the established nations by their industrial developement (there's one for the conspiracy theorists).

I'll probably have some self righteous green bunny stone as a heretic now for daring to express an opinion based on science and fact rather than propaganda (as someone with a PhD in environmental resource management I do read the peer reviewed journals which report unbiased reserach findings on a regular basis; Trevor Seargant or John Gormley couldn't tell you what a peer reviewed journal was). The theory of climate change as caused by man must never be questioned on pain of death (and the earth was flat unitl a few hundred years ago).

brianthebard · 03-09-2008 12:18PM

Draupnir wrote: »

Hit the weather forum, they will tell you a tale of 1986. Climate Change = Fact, but it didn't cause the rain in Ireland last month.

Well yes it is fact, because climate is always changing. To me climate change is our fin de siécle-because the middle classes aren't feeling well until they have something to worry about and bully others with.

dRNk SAnTA · 03-09-2008 12:20PM

Everytime it rains someone is there to say it's climate change. Same with everytime it's hot. And if it doesn't snow that's because of climate change, but if it snows a lot then that's climate change too.

Relevant · 03-09-2008 12:24PM

It was raining a minute ago and now it is sunny!! I say CLIMATE CHANGE

Latchy · 03-09-2008 12:26PM

We have being getting the 4 seasons every day here in north west england last few weeks so i suppose a bit of variety is better than one choice only ie, just continuous rain

connundrum · 03-09-2008 12:26PM

I must say I lol'd when John Gormley tried to blame the recent flooding in Carlow on Global Warming.

The recent flooding is due to **** planning. End.

It has rained a lot recently though.. which is annoying. Not worrying.

Trying to sell the idea of taxing water use to Irish people conjures images of Arabs and sand.

Naos · 03-09-2008 12:29PM

irish_bob wrote: »

....
while its always been a wet country , last year and especially this year have been nothing but relentless downpours ....

gordon_gekko wrote: »

.... i stated clearly in the post that ireland has always been a wet country , it has never rained like it has in this past 2 yrs , never has there been such frequent downpours ....

Someone has two accounts...

latenia · 03-09-2008 12:31PM

I don't think many cynics doubt climate change-it's 'man-made global warming' they have a problem with.

anti-venom · 03-09-2008 12:32PM

zoemax wrote: »

Weather and climate change continiously. The earth is billions of years old and the climate has never been constant. There were large vineyards cultivated in England during the reign of Henry VIII for example, but now you would have great difficulty cultivating grapes in England except perhaps for the very south.

True, and before that, in the middle ages, there was a mini iceage. The Thames froze over for months at a time and people regularly held 'ice fairs' on the river. This was before the industrial revolution so nobody can possible blame mankind for this.

However, these things are conveniently forgotten and overlooked in the present climate of hysteria. Perhaps we are being hoodwinked into accepting increasing green taxes and carefully engineered energy crisis' with ensuing price hikes.

Quazzie · 03-09-2008 12:37PM

Naos wrote: »

Someone has two accounts...

I refuse to listen to the opinion of someone so clearly two faced.

jeremyquinn · 03-09-2008 12:58PM

A three hundred year old bridge on the liffey shows a few cracks and they blame climate change. What a joke.

I am a bit hungry now, is it climate change???

Man has no effect on climate change. Too much water, too little. They change their stories as it suits, namely as a reason to tax you more.

Farce.

thelordofcheese · 03-09-2008 02:08PM

jeremyquinn wrote: »

A three hundred year old bridge on the liffey shows a few cracks and they blame climate change. What a joke.

I am a bit hungry now, is it climate change???

Man has no effect on climate change. Too much water, too little. They change their stories as it suits, namely as a reason to tax you more.

Farce.

Science wants a word with you.
And it's not a friendly one.

Terry · 03-09-2008 02:16PM

Draupnir wrote: »

Hit the weather forum, they will tell you a tale of 1986. Climate Change = Fact, but it didn't cause the rain in Ireland last month.

85 was no picnic either.

Naos wrote: »

Someone has two accounts...

Indeed they do.
Nice catch.

gurramok · 03-09-2008 02:24PM

Just use giant mirrors to divert the sun that the Russians proposed to do in the 80s to heat their Siberian regions!
If climate change was really happening, it better be more sunny days, otherwise it's one big con

Dave! · 03-09-2008 02:45PM

Monday was ridiculous..... started off with the sun splitting the rocks and me debating whether or not I should wear shorts while I'm walking the dog. Walked around to my mate's house and as we walked back to mine we decided it would be a good day to buy a few bottles of Corona and sit out the back garden.

2 hours later, clouds cover the sky, rain p*ssing down, and us sitting in the house with the windows all closed watching the football transfer news!

EDIT:

Oh, hey... In the last 10 minutes there was hailstones, thunder, and lightning. Now it's not even raining. Excellent.

RossFixxxed · 03-09-2008 03:30PM

It's probably yore ma that's causing it.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 03-09-2008 04:16PM

Dave! wrote: »

we decided it would be a good day to buy a few bottles of Corona and sit out the back garden.

And you're a mod in the non-drinkers forum???? Golly.

(I realise he's just a mod and may not endorse that lifestyle, please don't retaliate with fury)

mumhaabu · 03-09-2008 04:34PM

Climate Change exists and it is a natural healthy process it is however not caused by the amount of any gas we put into the atmosphere it is based on multiple factors and the sun is the biggest one. Right now the Jet Stream has moved as it did last year except it moved again this year.

Thus Ireland is getting wagons of moist air in off the Atlantic thus alot of precipitation. Take a look at the map we are at the same latitude as New Foundland, our weather is actually becoming more like it should be geographically speaking, we should also get massive freeze ups in Winter too.

The Jet Stream and Gulf Stream influence our weather and Co2 or John Gormley will never ever influence it. There is nothing we can do and as such should carry on as normal and pollute more as if Global Warming is real (unlikely) then we are actually doing a good thing.

Oh and mods hit one of his accounts with the Co2 ban handle as last time I checked having double accounts was a bannable offense.

Jigsaw · 03-09-2008 05:19PM

Weather is gay.

Smart Bug · 03-09-2008 05:26PM

It agravates me greatly that people still swear that humans haven't had an impact on our climate.

It displays ignorance on par with flat-earthers & creationists.

Mossy Monk · 03-09-2008 05:43PM

Smart Bug wrote: »

It agravates me greatly that people still swear that humans haven't had an impact on our climate.

How did humans help bring about the last ice age?

afatbollix · 03-09-2008 05:46PM

August is ussally our wettest month of the year...

also our weather is all ways ****e... get over it its not climate change...

also a few things to ponder...

why is the media not reporting things like:
the polor caps melting and the big bad hole in the ozone layer

also dont forget global warming..

its because the hole in the ozone layer is getting smaller..
the ice caps are getting bigger
and global warming has stoped over the last two years..

the media changed the name so we would all still talk about it..

and if they say is true...
im looking farward to sitting on a beach in mayo when I retire all year around..

thelordofcheese · 03-09-2008 05:50PM

anto-t wrote: »

August is ussally our wettest month of the year...

also our weather is all ways ****e... get over it its not climate change...

also a few things to ponder...

why is the media not reporting things like:
the polor caps melting and the big bad hole in the ozone layer

also dont forget global warming..

its because the hole in the ozone layer is getting smaller..
the ice caps are getting bigger
and global warming has stoped over the last two years..

the media changed the name so we would all still talk about it..

and if they say is true...
im looking farward to sitting on a beach in mayo when I retire all year around..

Sweet jesus......
Do you have any kind of source for that nonsense or are you just dry-humping the keyboard and hoping a coherient sentance comes out?

dont believe in climate change, come to ireland

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