Are rivalrys Such as pool V Utd a posative or a negative for soccer in general

Gelio · 25-08-2008 12:27PM #1

Sell out attendances
Thrilling games

Damages
Some people might go a bit ott

Opinions please . . .

Helix · 25-08-2008 12:31PM

****e

i clicked negative instead of positive

Gelio · 25-08-2008 12:36PM

I think its a posative overall but it has negatives

RasTa · 25-08-2008 12:50PM

Get Firefox.

Gelio · 25-08-2008 01:10PM

RasTa wrote: »

Get Firefox.

Wha . . .

Nalz · 25-08-2008 01:41PM

In Ireland,

It has some positives...I Love the Liverpool United banter. COming into work after losing to them can be a daunting experience, Im wone of those fellas that dont mention anything when United win. I get the feelin people are sayin "look at the fooker, glowin after United poxying it". Its great

But then I think, its such a pity we're not going on about Rovers vs Pats, or Bohs vs Drogs etc... I'd love it if that were the case. Friendly banter about Irish clubs. Dont get me wrong Im a big supporter of Man United, but since living in Dublin these few years I go to Bohs games and have become a fan.

Some of my mates think Im stupid for goin. Saying "the standard is sh!t", "going to the games will never improve Irish soccer", "soccer is for scoabs" even. I disagree.

Pool United banter is good, just wish there was more of the Irish club banter

PHB · 25-08-2008 01:49PM

Nothing in this world will give me greater pleasure than taking over Liverpools league totals.

Gelio · 25-08-2008 01:50PM

Trilla wrote: »

In Ireland,

It has some positives...I Love the Liverpool United banter. COming into work after losing to them can be a daunting experience, Im wone of those fellas that dont mention anything when United win. I get the feelin people are sayin "look at the fooker, glowin after United poxying it". Its great

But then I think, its such a pity we're not going on about Rovers vs Pats, or Bohs vs Drogs etc... I'd love it if that were the case. Friendly banter about Irish clubs. Dont get me wrong Im a big supporter of Man United, but since living in Dublin these few years I go to Bohs games and have become a fan.

Some of my mates think Im stupid for goin. Saying "the standard is sh!t", "going to the games will never improve Irish soccer", "soccer is for scoabs" even. I disagree.

Pool United banter is good, just wish there was more of the Irish club banter

I was just using Liverpool V United as an example I ment any rivalry:)

Nalz · 25-08-2008 01:59PM

ajeffares wrote: »

I was just using Liverpool V United as an example I ment any rivalry:)

Oh I know, I was using those two as examples too

Mr Alan · 25-08-2008 02:01PM

PHB wrote: »

Nothing in this world will give me greater pleasure than taking over Liverpools league totals.

Come on Rafa! dont let it happen!!!!!:(

Karmafaerie · 25-08-2008 02:22PM

PHB wrote: »

Nothing in this world will give me greater pleasure than taking over Liverpools league totals.

And nothing in the world gives me greater pleasure than the fact that it's never gonna happen!;)

Gelio · 25-08-2008 02:34PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

And nothing in the world gives me greater pleasure than the fact that it's never gonna happen!;)

You tell em

LuckyLloyd · 25-08-2008 02:50PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

And nothing in the world gives me greater pleasure than the fact that it's never gonna happen!;)

Do you wanna bet on that?

United will have the record by the start of the 2013 / 14 season at the latest barring some seismic shift in the current relative strengths of the premiership clubs.

Karmafaerie · 25-08-2008 02:53PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Do you wanna bet on that?

United will have the record by the start of the 2013 / 14 season at the latest barring some seismic shift in the current relative strengths of the premiership clubs.

By, 2013/14 the world could be run by a race of super inteligent space monkeys!

I'm just being a fan, and putting my fingers in my ears while shouting "nah nah nah I can't hear you".

The result.
Liverpool are the greatest team to ever lace on boots.;)

bobbysands81 · 25-08-2008 02:57PM

Rivalry by defintion is a good thing, it makes people strive to be better than their competitors ensuring survival of the fittest thus making us all better.

It's when it becomes more than rivalry that it becomes negative.

Rivalry exists in GAA far more than soccer. You can sit with opposing fans at a GAA game knowing that 99.9% of the time things will be fine (the violence usually occurs on the pitch!). There will be slagging and banter but no digs.

You can't say the same for soccer though... one of the main reasons imo is segregation. Rather than rectifying the problem I think it's one of the main causes of the problem as it affirms that it is a problem and that there's something wrong with opposing fans as they're not "allowed" in the same area you're in. Unfortunately this attitude won't be changed any time soon.

LuckyLloyd · 25-08-2008 03:00PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

By, 2013/14 the world could be run by a race of super inteligent space monkeys!

I'm just being a fan, and putting my fingers in my ears while shouting "nah nah nah I can't hear you".

The result.
Liverpool are the greatest team to ever lace on boots.;)

Well, I'm a Liverpool fan - and can face the reality that, as far as the record is concerned, we're tied to the train tracks while they choo choooo towards us with no signs of stopping.

Gavin "shels" · 25-08-2008 03:07PM

Why ask a stupid question, if the soccer world didn't have rivalrys like;
Boca – River Plate
Widzew Lodz - LKS Lodz
Red Star Belgrade - FK Partizan

and the Turkish and Brazil derbies.

Using Liverpool and United as a rivalry, compared to the matches I just named is tiny.

Karmafaerie · 25-08-2008 03:12PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well, I'm a Liverpool fan - and can face the reality that, as far as the record is concerned, we're tied to the train tracks while they choo choooo towards us with no signs of stopping.

Gelio · 25-08-2008 03:47PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Ha ha

monkey9 · 25-08-2008 03:50PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Do you wanna bet on that?

United will have the record by the start of the 2013 / 14 season at the latest barring some seismic shift in the current relative strengths of the premiership clubs.

Utd are only a title behind Liverpool at the moment. It mightn't even be that long unless we can get some money to buy quality instead of buying 'make do' players!

And the answer to the thread is yes, of course, rivalry is a good thing in football.....and all sport!

LuckyLloyd · 25-08-2008 03:51PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

You win this round I guess.

delija_sever029 · 25-08-2008 04:00PM

For me all rivalries are good and bring good fun so far as they dont start fighting and killing each other which started to happen unfortunately....least here....

stovelid · 25-08-2008 04:12PM

Trilla wrote: »

But then I think, its such a pity we're not going on about Rovers vs Pats, or Bohs vs Drogs etc... I'd love it if that were the case. Friendly banter about Irish clubs. Dont get me wrong Im a big supporter of Man United, but since living in Dublin these few years I go to Bohs games and have become a fan.

Think most EL fans (that I know anyway) have an EPL team...I was born in Manchester, moved here when I was young, but didn't stop liking United, even though I'm Rovers. I'd love if there were some people here in work to have some EL banter with too.

As for rivalry, on the whole, it's a positive thing, but the EPL rivalries seems to involve so much non-football, cult-of-personality, and utterly pedantic sh*te that it does make me laugh sometimes.

But overall, rivalry between ANY teams with an actual real history is what makes football.

Jazzy · 25-08-2008 04:31PM

good for football. not good for this forum

Gelio · 25-08-2008 04:37PM

Jazzy wrote: »

good for football. not good for this forum

what would we talk about if not rivalrys:pac::pac::pac:

ziggy · 25-08-2008 04:54PM

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Are rivalrys Such as pool V Utd a posative or a negative for soccer in general

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