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Schools rugby players taking banned substances

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  • #32
    Dragan
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    Gillo wrote: »
    A number of shops have been caught selling the illegal substances over the years.

    Which ones?

    This is my problem with the use of the term "banned substance".

    It could be anything from codeine to test suspension.


  • #33
    amacachi
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    Roper wrote: »
    Is that what's passing for facts these days?

    None of you who say there are schools players on gear have provided any "facts" at all. In FACT nobody in the neverending cycle of Who's On Gear threads ever provides any facts, or stories that aren't about a mate of a mate who said he heard that someone was using.

    Here's some real FACTS:
    If someone has made big gains, then they're on gear. This particularly applies if they've made bigger gains than you.
    If someone has improved in a season, they're on gear. Once again, this particularly applies if you used to be better/faster than them and now you're not.

    Not everything on the banned list is what I would call gear, look at the OP, he's referring to the olympic banned list which we all know is a joke.


  • #34
    thirdmantackle
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    until the schools knockout rugby is changed to a round robin format this huge pressure will be on all players and their coaches

    oh, and yes. there should be some random testing in schools rugby


  • #35
    rubadub
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    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    I agree with the one in fifty approach. Most players simply don't care that much.
    Thats what I would have thought, when I was in school I was saving up for booze and other illegal substances at the weekend.

    I was in Holland & Barrett and saw scrawny lads wanting to buy creatine and were refused, they asked for protein powder and got protein bars, the woman was saying "thats fine, its only food guys". If I was their age I would sooner be spending my pocket money on getting protein from chicken burgers!

    Thing is the kids believe the crap they hear, and not just kids I know lads who have been in sports all their lives now in their 30's that think whey is some magical steroid.

    I also expect the top young potential players might be too wary of taking stuff in case they are banned/tested


  • #36
    RugbyFanatic
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    this thread is hilarious.


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  • #37
    Frankie Lee
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    What I can't understand is the fact that (as far as i know) no professional rugby player in the northern hemisphere has ever been found guilty of taking performance enhancing drugs/steroids.
    I just find it highly unlikely that even a minority of players are not taking them.


  • #38
    De Deraco
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    Frankie Lee wrote: »
    What I can't understand is the fact that (as far as i know) no professional rugby player in the northern hemisphere has ever been found guilty of taking performance enhancing drugs/steroids.
    I just find it highly unlikely that even a minority of players are not taking them.

    many have such as munster ligggeeend Frankie Sheehan


  • #39
    Hanley
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    Dragan wrote: »
    If people are using size as an indicator then I was definitely on ASS when I was a kid.

    Actually, I am going to advise that none of you guys head down the country at any point soon.

    We breed them big down there…..we must all be on.:rolleyes:

    There's a difference between just being a big thick heavy set country lad and being a muscular looking guy tho.

    I know alot of country lads who are just plain "dad" strong. But they don't look like they lift. They've just big frames and thick joints. I don't think anyone would accuse them of being on the sauce.


  • #40
    Dragan
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    Hanley wrote: »
    There's a difference between just being a big thick heavy set country lad and being a muscular looking guy tho.

    I know alot of country lads who are just plain "dad" strong. But they don't look like they lift. They've just big frames and thick joints. I don't think anyone would accuse them of being on the sauce.

    I agree, but in all honesty how many of these kids are actually muscular? Where i live and where i train are all jammed full of rugby players. Get the luas from home to town at a certain time and your gonna see dozens of them.

    I never really see overly muscular guys....I just see slightly bigger than average guys wearing Canturbury tracksuits. Sure, one or two of them are standouts but thats it?


  • #41
    Al_Fernz
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    Dragan wrote: »
    I agree, but in all honesty how many of these kids are actually muscular? Where i live and where i train are all jammed full of rugby players. Get the luas from home to town at a certain time and your gonna see dozens of them.

    I never really see overly muscular guys....I just see slightly bigger than average guys wearing Canturbury tracksuits. Sure, one or two of them are standouts but thats it?

    +1

    To me nearly all of the players in the SCT final this year looked scrawny.


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  • #42
    g'em
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    From talking to a couple of supplement shop owners it seems that prohormones are the supplement du jour right now. But even at that I'd imagine you're talking about a minority of guys who'd take it, and mostly those whose Mummy's and Daddy's give them enough pocket money each week to afford it. Maximuscle is probably still a staple for those who want to 'bulk up' and whatnot.

    Oh and someone mentioned caffeine - that's not banned by the IOC anymore iirc, although I don't know what the current status of it is in rugby?


  • #43
    gabgab
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    Hanley wrote: »
    There's a difference between just being a big thick heavy set country lad and being a muscular looking guy tho.

    I know alot of country lads who are just plain "dad" strong. But they don't look like they lift. They've just big frames and thick joints. I don't think anyone would accuse them of being on the sauce.

    Just palin "dad" strong............

    That is hilarious, and I know exactly what you mean.


  • #44
    d-gal
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    I wouldn't really think much are on anything much, usually alot of players eat big and train heavy. The odd one might get no xplode or animal pak from behind the desk but thats the minority and what gym they are based in.
    And for anything stronger it is only a possibility when they hit a full time academy contract and have a good chance of playing national level


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