'Water is precious' adds

darkman2 · 14-08-2008 02:30AM #1

I was watching TV and cars floating down a road whilst simultaneously having the radio on. As I was watching this that Dublin City Council add came on on radio telling people not to 'water their lawns'. I cannot believe the arrogance and stupidity of these people. They are softening you up for a water tax. They could not be arssed putting in proper resevoirs. Thats the real problem. You can clearly see that in the last 6 days we have probrably had enough water from rain to last us indefinatley. Yet this Bull Sh*t persists. 'Preserve water' - What a fooking joke:mad:

monkeyfudge · 14-08-2008 02:34AM

Watering your lawn in a country like Ireland is pretty stupid though.

darkman2 · 14-08-2008 02:35AM

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Watering your lawn in a country like Ireland is pretty stupid though.

Thats what these stupid, infuriating adds are saying - stop wasting water - in this country!?

eVeNtInE · 14-08-2008 02:36AM

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Witcher · 14-08-2008 02:36AM

Water is precious?

No more steamy showers with yore ma so :pac::pac:

:rolleyes:

darkman2 · 14-08-2008 02:41AM

Mr Crystal wrote: »

Water has to be preserved because the flooding is causing rivers to be overflown meaning water treatment plants can't take water from them. I'm pretty sure that's the reason why the water has to be preserved.

Build bigger treatment plants- simple. But your being softend for a water tax and the arguments are a load of ****e. If they constructed what we pay tax for already there would NO problem (also clearing the drains might help)....your clearly being suckered. This is Ireland where rain is not in short supply.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 14-08-2008 03:02AM

will you just leave the country?

phantom_lord · 14-08-2008 03:59AM

water isn't free

randylonghorn · 14-08-2008 04:24AM

For once, I don't find myself in total disagreement with darkman2!

I can't believe I just typed that!

/goes off to shower

Xavi6 · 14-08-2008 04:28AM

randylonghorn wrote: »

For once, I don't find myself in total disagreement with darkman2!

I can't believe I just typed that!

/goes off to shower

Use a spunge and bucket you bastard!

MagicMarker · 14-08-2008 04:46AM

This is why i drink my own pee.

randylonghorn · 14-08-2008 05:12AM

Xavi6 wrote: »

Use a spunge and bucket you bastard!

Ah, here ... some of us actually get naked in company from time to time, dude, we have to adhere to slightly higher standards!!

14-08-2008 05:31AM

Drink bottled water in Galway, and keep your mouth closed if swimming the Corrib! (If you don't believe me about the Corrib, ask Galvia).

SimpleSam06 · 14-08-2008 07:34AM

randylonghorn wrote: »

For once, I don't find myself in total disagreement with darkman2!

Yes, he is in fact right...

cournioni · 14-08-2008 08:10AM

phantom_lord wrote: »

water isn't free

It is when you own a well. Pfft. Stupid townies.

Macha · 14-08-2008 08:16AM

darkman2 wrote: »

I was watching TV and cars floating down a road whilst simultaneously having the radio on. As I was watching this that Dublin City Council add came on on radio telling people not to 'water their lawns'. I cannot believe the arrogance and stupidity of these people. They are softening you up for a water tax. They could not be arssed putting in proper resevoirs. Thats the real problem. You can clearly see that in the last 6 days we have probrably had enough water from rain to last us indefinatley. Yet this Bull Sh*t persists. 'Preserve water' - What a fooking joke:mad:

Water IS precious and people waste it. There should be water charges because they have been proven to reduce wastage. What exactly is the difference between water & electricity? Both take money & resources. Why should we be charged for one on a flat rate & the other one according to usage. If I don't use that much water, why the hell should I pay for someone who takes a bath every day?

The ad doesn't tell people not to water their lawns. Try and get your facts right. Uh proper reservoirs? Newsflash: the GDA has serious watershortages and it looks like we have only 2 options: desalination plant or water from Lough Derg. Seriously try and do a bit of research & educate youself.

More arrogance and stupidity in your post than any ad to conserve water :rolleyes:

Edit: Just for those who whinge and moan and cry about taxes, Ireland comes at the top of the rankings for the lowest levels of personal taxation in the world. God forbid we raise our taxes a bit and actually have some decent public services like Scandinavia rather than the mess that is our public transport, health care system, housing, etc

http://www.mercer.com/pressrelease/details.htm?idContent=1287670

RuggieBear · 14-08-2008 08:21AM

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

It is when you own a well. Pfft. Stupid townies.

how much did that well cost you to bore/drill/develop?

Besides there is always the risk that your aquifer comes under pressure if/when the local towns decide that they need more water and develop a well field near you or better yet the big towns on the east coast start drawing water from the regional aquifers inland.

Sam Vimes · 14-08-2008 08:30AM

all the money they spent on those ads could've been spent on reservoirs and fixing leaks tbh

i agreed with him and was shocked right up until i got to the bit about "softening us up". Firstly i think he's giving the government too much credit as a big brother type organisation that's attempting to fool the people en masse. I just don't think they think that far ahead. And secondly, i don't think they'd have the cheek to introduce a tax when large parts of the country can't even drink the water. But then again it is Fianna Fail.....

Macha · 14-08-2008 09:00AM

Sam Vimes wrote: »

all the money they spent on those ads could've been spent on reservoirs and fixing leaks tbh

i agreed with him and was shocked right up until i got to the bit about "softening us up". Firstly i think he's giving the government too much credit as a big brother type organisation that's attempting to fool the people en masse. I just don't think they think that far ahead. And secondly, i don't think they'd have the cheek to introduce a tax when large parts of the country can't even drink the water. But then again it is Fianna Fail.....

Ugh. DCC are spending €130m over 10 years upgrading the water pipes. But studies have shown that there is also wastage on the consumer side-to the tune of about 65 llitres per household per day. Saving water on the supply side and saving water on the consumer side are two sides of the same coin. It would be very half-assed for the council to deal with the problem at one end and not at the other.

robinph · 14-08-2008 09:01AM

Unless there is water floating off into space then there is not and never will be a water shortage, it just sometimes lands in the wrong parts of the world.

Macha · 14-08-2008 09:07AM

Yeah? And what exactly do we do with all that polluted, salty water? Wash in it? Give to our kids to drink? It has to be treated and that costs money.

thelordofcheese · 14-08-2008 09:08AM

darkman2 wrote: »

I was watching TV and cars floating down a road whilst simultaneously having the radio on.

Stop wasting electricity you seflish goon!

robinph · 14-08-2008 09:17AM

taconnol wrote: »

Yeah? And what exactly do we do with all that polluted, salty water? Wash in it? Give to our kids to drink? It has to be treated and that costs money.

Wait until it falls out of the sky clean again and store it all in a big puddle type thing.

mikewest · 14-08-2008 09:32AM

phantom_lord wrote: »

water isn't free

So who paid for the stuff that falls out of the sky ??

gurramok · 14-08-2008 09:37AM

taconnol wrote: »

Water IS precious and people waste it. There should be water charges because they have been proven to reduce wastage. What exactly is the difference between water & electricity? Both take money & resources. Why should we be charged for one on a flat rate & the other one according to usage. If I don't use that much water, why the hell should I pay for someone who takes a bath every day?

The ad doesn't tell people not to water their lawns. Try and get your facts right. Uh proper reservoirs? Newsflash: the GDA has serious watershortages and it looks like we have only 2 options: desalination plant or water from Lough Derg. Seriously try and do a bit of research & educate youself.

More arrogance and stupidity in your post than any ad to conserve water :rolleyes:

Still no shortage of water as we've witnessed record rainfall. I think its investment to process that water thats the issue, they've been trying to fix those leaks for donkeys years but due to either shortage of funding or pure incompetence(like the N3 flooding issue), they have not fixed those leaks yet.

Central government had the money to fix the water issue during the boom and looks like they did nothing to fix it.

taconnol wrote: »

Edit: Just for those who whinge and moan and cry about taxes, Ireland comes at the top of the rankings for the lowest levels of personal taxation in the world. God forbid we raise our taxes a bit and actually have some decent public services like Scandinavia rather than the mess that is our public transport, health care system, housing, etc

http://www.mercer.com/pressrelease/details.htm?idContent=1287670

We have huge stealth indirect taxes that make up the shortfall in personal tax.

tracker-man · 14-08-2008 09:44AM

phantom_lord wrote: »

water isn't free

Wha?!
Water is a renewable natural resource, its as free as free gets and rightly so! how can the government expect us to pay for something as plentiful as water. If charges were introduced however, they should only be introduced after a certain amount is used. For example, up until X litres of water in the week is free, for every litre after that, however many cent is charged.

Anywho, just my 2cents

faceman · 14-08-2008 09:47AM

The average person in Ireland uses 148l of water a day, much of which is just waste. Studies in Ireland have shown that 5 litres of every 10 produced are wasted through individual negligence and leaking pipes.

Its costs the tax payer alot of money to treat water to make it suitable for consumption. It also has a carbon footprint.

I would rather see less water wastage than waste tax payers money building a facility that isnt really necessary at all.

faceman · 14-08-2008 09:48AM

tracker-man wrote: »

Wha?!
Water is a renewable natural resource, its as free as free gets and rightly so! how can the government expect us to pay for something as plentiful as water. If charges were introduced however, they should only be introduced after a certain amount is used. For example, up until X litres of water in the week is free, for every litre after that, however many cent is charged.

Anywho, just my 2cents

Why dont you make a stand against the goverment so and drink untreated rain water, water from lakes and rivers etc? Its free isnt it?

thelordofcheese · 14-08-2008 09:50AM

tracker-man wrote: »

Wha?!
Water is a renewable natural resource, its as free as free gets and rightly so! how can the government expect us to pay for something as plentiful as water. If charges were introduced however, they should only be introduced after a certain amount is used. For example, up until X litres of water in the week is free, for every litre after that, however many cent is charged.

Anywho, just my 2cents

*facepalm*

How do you think the water gets from the reservoirs to your tap?
Think about it.
Think really hard this might be tricky for you.

gurramok · 14-08-2008 09:52AM

faceman wrote: »

The average person in Ireland uses 148l of water a day, much of which is just waste. Studies in Ireland have shown that 5 litres of every 10 produced are wasted through individual negligence and leaking pipes.

So 5 out of every 10 is consumed, how much out of the other 5 is leaked through pipes then?

Macha · 14-08-2008 09:54AM

gurramok wrote: »

Still no shortage of water as we've witnessed record rainfall. I think its investment to process that water thats the issue, they've been trying to fix those leaks for donkeys years but due to either shortage of funding or pure incompetence(like the N3 flooding issue), they have not fixed those leaks yet.

Central government had the money to fix the water issue during the boom and looks like they did nothing to fix it.

You're right aboout shortage of facilities to treat the water. You can't just drink the stuff that comes out of the sky! This type of water is called "grey water" and is only suitable for watering plants, washing machines, flushing toilets. It is not suitable for drinking, cooking, showering. THIS water still needs to be treated by the local authorities & supplied to houses through a piped system. There are alternatives, such as owning your own well & joining a local water schemes. But again, the quality of this water depends on national policies in agriculture & septic tanks. And local authorities are responsible for the quality of these schemes.

It is a lack of investment in our facilities that has backed us into the current corner and also partly explains what happened in Galway. You're also right about the government not fixing this, and other things, when they had the money. You just have to look at Transport 21 & the NDP being decimated as projects are dropped. Disgraceful.

gurramok wrote: »

We have huge stealth indirect taxes that make up the shortfall in personal tax.

Do you have a reference/figures to back that up or is that just your opinion?

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