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Why is it that women are obsessed with Celebrity?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,189 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Magpie! wrote: »
    American womens magazines are the worst for advertising.

    I once counted 43 pages of ads BEFORE the contents page in American Vogue.

    Most magazines are glorified luxury goods catalogues.

    43 pages, ouch! Of course the people reading the rags love ads, lets them know what to buy so they can live happily ever after, at least until a bigger capacity ipod comes out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    If there is over-the-top player worship it is much more justified than an interest in celebrity. Most people who watch football play, or have played football before and realise how much skill is involved.
    Terry did a good job with this, so I'll refrain from any 22 sweaty men with shaved legs jogging about kicking the leather in small little shorts being so attractive to certain men comments.
    chalad07 wrote: »
    I totally disagree with this. I'm not for one minute claiming that mens mags are high art, far from it, but they are a million miles away from the likes of heat or whatever. A typical issue of FHM consists of actual news, real things that are happening around the world. Heat is literally composed the random thoughts of some London Editor making things up off the top of his head. News, sports, humour, movies, books, women are all covered in something like FHM,
    Its a bit of mystery to me why anyone would buy mags anymore anyway, what with most of any information you would want only a google away.

    /womens GAA lover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭juvenal


    kowloon wrote: »
    You'll never find anything cerebral printed on glossy paper sitting on a shelf in Spar.
    Magpie! wrote: »
    Most magazines are glorified luxury goods catalogues.

    + ∞


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Its a bit of mystery to me why anyone would buy mags anymore anyway, what with most of any information you would want only a google away.

    /womens GAA lover
    Magazines are easier to hold in bed than a lap top but it has to be somthing worth reading ,like vanity fair or a british/irish equvilent for my tastes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Terry did a good job with this, so I'll refrain from any 22 sweaty men with shaved legs jogging about kicking the leather in small little shorts being so attractive to certain men comments.

    /womens GAA lover

    I don't think that he did. He tried coming at it from the angry pleb soccer fan angle but didn't really make any relevant points about the comparison between enjoying football and reading celebrity stories like "Charlotte Church Gains Weight During Pregnancy".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    9 out of 10 users prefer to use the term molten silk to describe my snatch thanks.

    That was priceless! It would make an awesome girl-band name, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    I don't think that he did. He tried coming at it from the angry pleb soccer fan angle but didn't really make any relevant points about the comparison between enjoying football and reading celebrity stories like "Charlotte Church Gains Weight During Pregnancy".
    Both are and really should be enjoyed by primarily women?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I don't think that he did. He tried coming at it from the angry pleb soccer fan angle but didn't really make any relevant points about the comparison between enjoying football and reading celebrity stories like "Charlotte Church Gains Weight During Pregnancy".
    Wayne Rooney does a granny shocker.
    Wayne Rooney is paid £10 millon a year (I don't know the exact figure).

    The fact is, you buy the jersey and contribute to this crap.

    It's all 'hey, look at me. I'm wearing the latest grey man u* shirt. It cosy me €80 and I'm proud to say that this money goes towards paying the wage of some dick who wil dive at the first chance and try to get a day off.

    It's not even a sport.
    It's just a bunch of prima donnas preening themselves for the next after shave ad they are offered.

    *or whatever team.

    Serously, big bunch of pussies.
    Prove me wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I was hoping you were joking about that 22 sweaty men running around a field argument but obviously not, so I'll call it quits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    Terry wrote: »
    Serously, big bunch of pussies.
    Prove me wrong.
    Well Vinnie Jones does do his best to come across as being double hard in fairness, although he could have done a better job of the leering in swordfish.
    I was hoping you were joking about that 22 sweaty men running around a field argument but obviously not, so I'll call it quits.
    Ah don't feel bad, I have no problem abusing millions of people while simultaneously cheering on women who actually enjoy it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 316 ✭✭Magpie!


    oops. Wrong thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Terry wrote: »
    Wayne Rooney does a granny shocker.
    Wayne Rooney is paid £10 millon a year (I don't know the exact figure).

    The fact is, you buy the jersey and contribute to this crap.

    It's all 'hey, look at me. I'm wearing the latest grey man u* shirt. It cosy me €80 and I'm proud to say that this money goes towards paying the wage of some dick who wil dive at the first chance and try to get a day off.

    It's not even a sport.
    It's just a bunch of prima donnas preening themselves for the next after shave ad they are offered.

    *or whatever team.

    Serously, big bunch of pussies.
    Prove me wrong.

    Ok, here goes your argument... I haven't spent a penny on anything that would contribute to them. Your argument assumes that I am an idiot which is fair enough after the sandy vagina comment but I haven't bought a jersey I don't think since I was 8, and that was for my birthday, I remember because I got number 8, "Ince" on the back. I don't have sky or any other pay per view channel.

    So I don't BUY into anything. In fact even if I did contribute financially towards it it doesn't mean that I would have to have been duped and that you are the only enlightened person who sees what a scam it is.

    I agree somewhat about the pussies comment but I think it isn't necessarily that the players these days are pussies (many are) but that over time and with the increasing amounts of money involved, challenges that are technically a foul have to be punished, so what constitutes a foul is now a lot less. here's a post from a good while back I made: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=55750988&postcount=61

    Having said that, even though the tackling side of the game has been diminished I still get a lot of satisfaction out of watching good passes and movement, great shots and goals because I used to play and I realise how difficult it is. That's why I like it. And that's why most people like particular sports.

    Even if football became completely non-contact like basketball it would still be a sport. I pray that that won't happen but I see that there is a trend towards it at the moment. I'de say I'de still watch it because of the attacking aspects of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭taidghbaby


    we've had stargal in throwing her opinions but where are all the soccer mods?????
    oh yeah out havin the fun because its a friday an they're the cool!! :cool:

    anyway on topic i think the reason women obsess on celebrities and men on sport etc, is because it takes them away from the reality of there own life-something a bit different and strange!!
    everyone needs some extra-cirricular to interest them, no matter how stupid it seems top the next person!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    9 out of 10 users prefer to use the term molten silk to describe my snatch thanks.
    I suggest you give your rot ridden knob a good descale with liquid sand and steelwool, before you decide to criticise any more ladies parts.

    Moonbaby, thats just beautiful :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Peared


    Men have football so they don't have to think about their lives.

    Women have celebrity magazines cos they think about their lives too much.

    In peareds esteemed opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Football is crap and women's magazines are stupid. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Peared wrote: »
    Men have football so they don't have to think about their lives.

    Women have celebrity magazines cos they think about their lives too much.

    In peareds esteemed opinion.

    Fail. Fail. Fail.


    Men have dicks so they have a reason to think about women. Women don't think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    Personally I love reading about fuckwits screwing up their lives. Puts a smile on my face when I read about how someone who has lots of money can make the same small mistakes that I do ... Like screwing a $1000 escort with a bag full of coke and then saying sorry to my WAG by buying her a $100k car and diamond ring

    Exactly like my life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    What's weird is you rarely see a men's magazine put a celebrity male down, there's far more hero worship.

    In women's magazines, half the content is about trying to convince people really pretty women are in fact, really ugly.

    Odd, I really think men don't like seeing their heros broken down whereas women generally enjoy the negativity, don't know why though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Peared wrote: »
    Men have football so they don't have to think about their lives.
    Men have football as a distraction to life ,an escapisim of sorts but even footballers are thinking about scoring on and off the field .
    Women have celebrity magazines cos they think about their lives too much.

    QUOTE]
    Women have magazines as a distraction to lifes mundane realitys ,also an escapisim while they wait for the footballer to show up


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    What's weird is you rarely see a men's magazine put a celebrity male down, there's far more hero worship.

    In women's magazines, half the content is about trying to convince people really pretty women are in fact, really ugly.

    Odd, I really think men don't like seeing their heros broken down whereas women generally enjoy the negativity, don't know why though.

    I hate the negativity! It really can't be good for a person to read such spiteful material. I imagine the editors would say it's cathartic and that it provides an alternative to the saccharine-sweet style of Hello magazine but I'm not convinced!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,189 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    What's weird is you rarely see a men's magazine put a celebrity male down, there's far more hero worship.

    In women's magazines, half the content is about trying to convince people really pretty women are in fact, really ugly.

    Odd, I really think men don't like seeing their heros broken down whereas women generally enjoy the negativity, don't know why though.

    That's a very interesting observation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    What's more likely is that a man's mates are his mates whilst a girls friends are her friendly rivals. Celebrities are friends that we don't actually know and to be honest, mens mags don't feature all that many men. So often women are only famous for the way they look and girls take pleasure in seeing them taken down a peg. Men don't tend to be famous just for their looks, they usually have to earn fame and that garners respect.

    I'm not saying that's the case every time but I think there's something in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    chalad07 wrote: »
    I really dont understand how normally intelliegent women, suddenly turn into complete idiots when a copy of 'Now' is placed in front of them. Who cares if Britney has changed her hair? Does it really matter if Angelina Jolie is up the spout again?
    Meant to come back to this earlier because I take serious exception to this. I've never once seen a woman, any woman, pick up a magazine and say 'Wow, look at Robbie Williams hiding his face from the photographer! How insightful and life-changing!'. I've very rarely heard any woman make any kind of insightful or intellectual comments on the celeb magazine she's reading. That doesn't make them bad. In face, that's the point of them. It's brain-candy. It's not meant to stimulate debate, it's meant to provide escapism and entertainment.

    I know women who fly planes, who write for national newspapers, who save lives every day of the week, all of whom read celebrity magazines. [Uh, it's not all the same woman. Although that would be awesome]. That doesn’t make them stupid. No-one 'turns into a complete idiot' as you put it when they pick up a magazine. They switch off their brains for a while. It's completely different.
    chalad07 wrote: »
    I totally disagree with this. I'm not for one minute claiming that mens mags are high art, far from it, but they are a million miles away from the likes of heat or whatever. A typical issue of FHM consists of actual news, real things that are happening around the world. Heat is literally composed the random thoughts of some London Editor making things up off the top of his head. News, sports, humour, movies, books, women are all covered in something like FHM.
    .
    You're trying to defend FHM because it writes about world events? Isn't that like trying to defend Hot Asian Bitchez for its novel approach to integration of immigrants? :p

    They really, really aren't that different. Both magazines appeal to a dumb, unthinking, disengaged audience (and for the record, Heat does cinema, music and book reviews, as well as reporting on celebrity events around the globe. That's world events too. Kinda). They're equally stupid and massively successful.
    You say no one buys Heat for the little Will Young dressing gown stories, that they are bought for their cover stories. Tell me exactly how this differs from Cover stories such as "becks talks about his bulge' (on Heat.com's front page)?

    It's completely different. A man who many women find to be very attractive talking about his cock? Well yeah. That's newsworthy in Celeb-land. It gets to be front and centre of the website. An attractive man talking in his milk first thing in the morning? Ok, not quite as hawt. Page 24 in the mag. It's just filler.
    The argument that it's just a conversation point is null. Women spend hours talking about what are clear falsehoods (women know this too), when i'm sure women have a lot more interesting things to talk about than Beck's bulge (i hope!!)
    Well I reject the idea that women spend hours talking about this kind of stuff. You might mention it at the hairdressers or something. But that's it.
    FruitLover wrote: »
    You've obviously never actually read through FHM if you're comparing it with Nuts and Zoo. The latter two are the 'Daily Star' of men's magazines. FHM is more like a printout of After Hours.

    Now this is bizarre. When's the last time you read an article on the various steps of cocaine production (or anything else even remotely interesting) in Heat? When's the last time you read bitchy comments about 'Brad Pitt's stretch marks' or whatever (complete with zoomed-in photo of a barely noticeable blemish) in FHM?.
    I've read FHM, I've read Nuts, I've read Zoo. Heat doesn't pretend to be anything more than it is, and it has been wildly successful at what it does. Similarly FHM doesn't need to zoom in on Lewis Hamilton's sweat marks or whatever because it's not their market.
    This is because the men behind FHM, being significantly smarter than the women behind Heat, recognize a lucrative advertising market
    Lulz. Heat is edited by a man. The last editor was a man too. Lots of the writers and contributors are men (as, by the way, are many of the contributors to the Celeb & Showbiz forum on boards). Your point?
    taidghbaby wrote: »
    anyway on topic i think the reason women obsess on celebrities and men on sport etc, is because it takes them away from the reality of there own life-something a bit different and strange!!
    everyone needs some extra-cirricular to interest them, no matter how stupid it seems top the next person!!!
    Qft.
    chalad07 wrote:
    And easy on with the Snobbery comments, i'm genuinely interested!
    Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude or anything like that. It's just threads like this are usually "Wow, look how dumb women are for being interested in celebrities" without any thought or discussion about a) why they actually do it and b) how men are equally dumb. I appreciate that that's not where you're coming from and I think it's a great topic so sorry if the snobbery thing came across wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    Stargal wrote: »
    Hot Asian Bitchez
    Hmm?

    / almost opens both eyes


  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Peared wrote: »
    Men have football so they don't have to think about their lives.

    Women have celebrity magazines cos they think about their lives too much.

    In peareds esteemed opinion.

    Maybe on average we just have different ways of finding interest in a topic.
    I like History. I engage with the subject by reading about the people who shaped it.
    I get a kick out of the little bits of trivia that give me a feeling for the type of person they were.
    Where as my mate is obsessed with the machinery, battlefields and cold hard statistics of WW2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    fwiw I know several very intelligent women who still love indulging in the latest celebrity news. It's not a reflection of ones intelligence, women just have some kind of morbid curiosity with celebrity culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Stargal wrote: »
    words

    You go gal!
    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I like History. I engage with the subject by reading about the people who shaped it.
    I get a kick out of the little bits of trivia that give me a feeling for the type of person they were.

    Did you see Hannibal of Carthage's thighs? Hellooooo cellulite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,767 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Stargal wrote: »
    They're equally stupid and massively successful.

    Far more women read magazines than men.

    You are saying how "successful" Nuts and Zoo and that rubbish is but I don't actually know any man who reads them. Numbers on http://www.nrs.co.uk/top_line_readership suggest they are just not as popular with men as the most-read "women's" magazines are with women (in the UK anyways).
    More men read some of the shopping magazines on the so-called "women's" survey...the fact they have a separate survey just for the "womens" mags also tells its own tale.
    Stargal wrote: »
    I know women who fly planes, who write for national newspapers, who save lives every day of the week

    Really? I don't know anyone like that because i'm a ****.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    You go gal!

    Did you see Hannibal of Carthage's thighs? Hellooooo cellulite.
    Lol! Sorry, I know it was very long :o
    Hmm?

    / almost opens both eyes
    I'm not completely sure that that magazine exists. But it probably does.
    cianos wrote:
    fwiw I know several very intelligent women who still love indulging in the latest celebrity news. It's not a reflection of ones intelligence, women just have some kind of morbid curiosity with celebrity culture.
    Yeah I agree that intelligent women can still read celeb news. But it's not all women who have the morbid curiosity. It's some. And that's an important distinction.


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