Gaelic Games - do they bring out the worst in the Irish

copeyhagen · 31-07-2008 02:48PM

thats boll0x. I admit that for the big games like Leinster finals there will be a minority of scum there that wouldnt go to a single league match in parnell and think theyre proper dublin fans cuz theyre going to croker to support their county. dont tarnish us all with the one brush

i have been going to dublin matches since i was young and have only ever seen 1 or 2 events that would make me think badly of the dublin supporters. i go to the league matches home and some away. if im in croker im always on the hill.

2 things i have witnessed that i frowned over.

1. some nackers throwing things last year at leinster final.- nearly got the heads boxxed off them.

2. the fools running onto the pitch early after the wexford match - the entire hill "booed" them and told them what we thought of them

there have been a few other small things but the dublin supporters on the hill as a majority are well behaved and proper supporters.

listermint · 31-07-2008 03:05PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

thats boll0x. I admit that for the big games like Leinster finals there will be a minority of scum there that wouldnt go to a single league match in parnell and think theyre proper dublin fans cuz theyre going to croker to support their county. dont tarnish us all with the one brush

i have been going to dublin matches since i was young and have only ever seen 1 or 2 events that would make me think badly of the dublin supporters. i go to the league matches home and some away. if im in croker im always on the hill.

2 things i have witnessed that i frowned over.

1. some nackers throwing things last year at leinster final.- nearly got the heads boxxed off them.

2. the fools running onto the pitch early after the wexford match - the entire hill "booed" them and told them what we thought of them

there have been a few other small things but the dublin supporters on the hill as a majority are well behaved and proper supporters.

Well said, totally agree!

Pen1987 · 31-07-2008 03:14PM

Im not a big fan of Gaelic Games but you have to say the GAA is EASILY one of the best organisations on the planet. I have nothing but admiration for it. Oh and for the record, I'm a Dub.

Dyr · 31-07-2008 03:22PM

One reason you dont get more riots at not-the-eircom-league matches: ya need a crowd to have a riot :pac:

Pen1987 · 31-07-2008 03:25PM

One reason you dont get more riots at not-the-eircom-league matches: ya need a crowd to have a riot

I dont undersatand this... double-negetive. So you get more riots at Eircom League matches because they have a crowd?

Terrontress · 31-07-2008 03:34PM

Just because there is no infighting between spectators based on their counties does not mean that the GAA are civilised and non-aggressive.

My limited experience of GAA supporters is that alot of them actually enjoy a fight amongst each other based on inter-county rivalries. That's to be expected though as there are a fair few fights on the pitch. Fighting seems to be part of the dna of the entire movement.

Terrontress · 31-07-2008 03:35PM

Pen1987 wrote: »

Im not a big fan of Gaelic Games but you have to say the GAA is EASILY one of the best organisations on the planet. I have nothing but admiration for it. Oh and for the record, I'm a Dub.

I'd have to say that there is no evidence to support your statement whatsoever but it is 100% UNDENIABLE FACT!

UsedtobePC · 31-07-2008 03:35PM

Pen1987 wrote: »

I dont undersatand this... double-negetive. So you get more riots at Eircom League matches because they have a crowd?

ermm... I think the two negatives are not gramatically applied to the same subject. But i agree it still doesn't make sense

prendy · 31-07-2008 03:43PM

Terrontress wrote: »

Just because there is no infighting between spectators based on their counties does not mean that the GAA are civilised and non-aggressive.

My limited experience of GAA supporters is that alot of them actually enjoy a fight amongst each other based on inter-county rivalries. That's to be expected though as there are a fair few fights on the pitch. Fighting seems to be part of the dna of the entire movement.

limited experience indeed!

mike65 wrote: »

I sense some denial, do peeps want a situation where things slide into a situation and fences are put up round the stands to stop invasions? If that happened then an Irish Hillsborough would not be impossible (last min rushes at grounds are well known)

Mike.

mike is your only view of GAA games Dublin in the championship? because other than the hill 16 when Dublin are playing i dont understand where this is coming from? yes about twice or three times a year you hear of some underage/junior club game where tensions spill over and the press jumps on it.. but to say its widespread is a bit OTT.

gixerfixer · 31-07-2008 04:03PM

GAA is a thugs game and lets face it requires **** all skill

prendy · 31-07-2008 04:08PM

gixerfixer wrote: »

GAA is a thugs game and lets face it requires **** all skill

so you played alot of GAA ya?? otherwise how can you make that well backed up argument?

you look at hurling and tell anyone that it doesnt require skill??

megadodge · 31-07-2008 04:14PM

GAA is a thugs game and lets face it requires **** all skill

'GAA' actually isn't a game !!
It's an organisation !!

Nolanger · 31-07-2008 04:46PM

GAA sports are for culchie retards living down the country in s**t towns.
Love seeing the Aussies beating the crap out of them in the International Rules.

Quazzie · 31-07-2008 04:47PM

Nolanger wrote: »

GAA sports are for culchie retards living down the country in s**t towns.
Love seeing the Aussies beating the crap out of them in the International Rules.

Is that why Dublin has one of the biggest budgets and revenues in GAA?

kaimera · 31-07-2008 04:49PM

wow, 45 replies in and no sign of Des to put the boot in..

Must be a busy day for ya

I do like the AH replies tho.

stovelid · 31-07-2008 05:02PM

Pen1987 wrote: »

I dont undersatand this... double-negetive. So you get more riots at Eircom League matches because they have a crowd?

Not the eircom league is a side-splitting reference to the fact that Eircom may be pulling out of their sponsorship of the league.

rossie1977 · 31-07-2008 05:05PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Love seeing the Aussies beating the crap out of them in the International Rules.

fail, unless you are talking about beating the crap out of the irish physically

since 1984

Australia S:7 T:14 PT:1,681
Ireland S:6 T:14 PT:1,664

S=series won
T= matches won
PT=total points scored

who after kerry has won the most all-irelands in football???

Deadeyes · 31-07-2008 05:06PM

As a rugby supporter I've always found it very annoying to watch in GAA and football, more so football the way players react to a referee's decision.
But the denial in GAA of issues is becoming a joke. Take the Galvin case, any contact with a referee should not be tolerated. Yet people kept saying "ah sure it wasn't his fault he was just upset". or in the case of the U21 game. The goalie broke the rules, but I've heard people saying that "he was only out a couple of steps so that's not really breaking the rules". There seems to be no acceptance of responsilbilty, players will just keep appealling until they get away with it.

barbiegirl · 31-07-2008 05:08PM

Love my Gah, it's fast, skillful and gets the juices flowing. It's about pride in your town and county and not about money. The crowd and the banter are excellent. I've been going to local and county games ALL my life and have never seen hassle. Everyone has a bit of a slagging and that's that. I also go to Dublin games on the hill and rarely see anything weird and am not uncomfortable, and though a very proud culchie, I'm no skanger

It's without doubt the best pasttime and when I have kids it's the GAA route I'll be hoping they take rather than the rugby or soccer. Mr Barbie Girl dreams of twin boys in Dublin mid-field :-).

dlofnep · 31-07-2008 05:09PM

mike65 wrote: »

Rather than be controversial in the GAA forums I thought this could be discussed here as views will be more diverse I think.

Is playing in or supporting a GAA side now licence to behave like a caveman, last week we had that unsavioury business in Carlow as "kill the f**king n-i-gger" was chanted by teenagers with the approval of thier elders while last night saw a pitch invasion and physical assault of match officials and members of the Gardai. Intimidation of match officials now appears to be a standard tactic.

If any of the above happen in soccer for example there would be a crackdown, bans, fines and the meeeja going nutz as they decry thuggery and hooliganism yet in GAA-land it appears to be somehow okay and certainly not worth taking very seriously.

Mike.

Dear Mike,

Why do you burden us with such nonsensical questions?

No, Gaelic Games bring out a competitive nature in us, that gives us something to look forward to. A bit of the old competitive spirit on the field.

There are bad apples in all walks of life. You'll find someone on the street labelling people in a similar manner. Does that mean that walking on a street brings out the worst in us? No, absolutely not. The vast majority of people at Gaelic games, are just father and sons - out for a day away from the house.. Or a few friends, who want to go see a game and have a few pints afterwards.

Questions like this bring out the worst in the Irish, IMO.

Xavi6 · 31-07-2008 05:12PM

barbiegirl wrote: »

Love my Gah, it's fast, skillful and gets the juices flowing. It's about pride in your town and county and not about money. The crowd and the banter are excellent. I've been going to local and county games ALL my life and have never seen hassle. Everyone has a bit of a slagging and that's that. I also go to Dublin games on the hill and rarely see anything weird and am not uncomfortable, and though a very proud culchie, I'm no skanger
It's without doubt the best pasttime and when I have kids it's the GAA route I'll be hoping they take rather than the rugby or soccer. Mr Barbie Girl dreams of twin boys in Dublin mid-field :-).

Me hoop it is. The only reason they give that 'pride' bollox is beacause they've no say in the matter of getting paid to play.

rossie1977 · 31-07-2008 05:14PM

barbiegirl wrote: »

Love my Gah, it's fast, skillful and gets the juices flowing. It's about pride in your town and county and not about money. The crowd and the banter are excellent. I've been going to local and county games ALL my life and have never seen hassle. Everyone has a bit of a slagging and that's that. I also go to Dublin games on the hill and rarely see anything weird and am not uncomfortable, and though a very proud culchie, I'm no skanger
It's without doubt the best pasttime and when I have kids it's the GAA route I'll be hoping they take rather than the rugby or soccer. Mr Barbie Girl dreams of twin boys in Dublin mid-field :-).

this i agree with, there is nothing like the gaa and the banter between rival fans. brings me back to the all-ireland semi in 2006, the town was full of dublin, mayo, roscommon, meath, leitrim and louth fans everywhere we went. The craic after the game in quinns and big tree was brilliant, dublin fans gracious in defeat despite missing out on an all-ireland by a single point, mayo fans and roscommon fans side by side singing. you would never see that in english football.

Orizio · 31-07-2008 05:14PM

mike65 wrote: »

Rather than be controversial in the GAA forums I thought this could be discussed here as views will be more diverse I think.

Is playing in or supporting a GAA side now licence to behave like a caveman, last week we had that unsavioury business in Carlow as "kill the f**king n-i-gger" was chanted by teenagers with the approval of thier elders while last night saw a pitch invasion and physical assault of match officials and members of the Gardai. Intimidation of match officials now appears to be a standard tactic.

If any of the above happen in soccer for example there would be a crackdown, bans, fines and the meeeja going nutz as they decry thuggery and hooliganism yet in GAA-land it appears to be somehow okay and certainly not worth taking very seriously.

Mike.

What the hell are you talking about? What GAA person said it was ok? It was roundly and justly condemning, put on the front of a national newspaper and is currently being investigated. Form osmeone who played GAA for a decade or so, and was born into a GAA family, I can tell you I don't think its 'okay or not serious'.

If you think racism/hooliganism/thuggery are in some way limited to GAA fans then I don't quite know what to say. Like all things, sports brings out both the worst and best in people, and there is little reason to think GAA people would be any different, or Irish people would be any different or better.

More fundamentally hate of 'others' is an unacceptable human flaw, and a clear sign that someone has little intelligence or self respect. Picking up a hurley does not make someone a racist, **** parenting, **** education and no self esteem do.

Why do you ignore the racist abuse of people like Rutherford btw? I suppose being a soccer fan clouds your ability to be objective towards the sport you love...

Orizio · 31-07-2008 05:20PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

The intercounty senior GAA looks fine, but the junior and club scene seems to attract all the local scumbags.

Last nights they are attacking referees/umpires/police involved etc in Munster after (wait for it) an Under21 game of all things, and theres a big thread in the GAA forum about how the referee is to blame.

Soccer for all its faults would hand out severe bans to the teams involved, bans that would actually stick.

I think you mean the FANS involved, what do you accuse the teams of doing?

The couple of dozen fans behaviour was understandable but undeniably wrong. And yes the GAA disciplinary system is a mess.

pickarooney · 31-07-2008 05:25PM

Why do you people use the term 'GAA' as if it were a sport? You don't go around saying you play 'FAI' or 'IRFU', do you?

Orizio · 31-07-2008 05:29PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Why do you people use the term 'GAA' as if it were a sport? You don't go around saying you play 'FAI' or 'IRFU', do you?

Rather pedantic point no?

Anyway, GAA is the perfect short hand for two sports, and is obviously quicker then saying 'Gaelic Football and Gaelic Hurling'. Not such a problem for rugby or soccer.

Frank Spencer · 31-07-2008 05:37PM

Shamrock Rovers and Bohemians supporters fight outside Hill 16 pub.

I defy anyone to come up with any footage even resembling this involving GAA supporters.

Bad argument Mike.

taidghbaby · 31-07-2008 05:37PM

gixerfixer wrote: »

GAA is a thugs game and lets face it requires **** all skill

:rolleyes:

Xavi6 · 31-07-2008 05:40PM

taidghbaby wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Yeah cause that's actually from a game and not O'Connell Street.

You do know that the vast majority of skangers who wear Celtic jerseys actually have no interest in the club or the football yeah?

taidghbaby · 31-07-2008 05:46PM

Xavi6 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Yeah cause that's actually from a game and not O'Connell Street.

You do know that the vast majority of skangers who wear Celtic jerseys actually have no interest in the club or the football yeah?

i know that!
but lets not forget hugh dallas being hit by a coin after a celtic match!!

that picture was in response to the previous posters' ridiculous statement!

Gaelic Games - do they bring out the worst in the Irish

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