the popularisation and normalising of drug use!

Quazzie · 30-07-2008 10:38AM #1

Does anybody else find it disturbing that drug use has become so common and so accepted in Irish culture. I for one have never smoked or used drugs so I can't claim to know the 'benefit' of any of these but I just feel its taken nearly no time at all from going from knocking down drug dealers doors in the late 80's early 90's to suddenly seeing some smoking hash, or snorting a line and not passing a second glance. when did it all become so normal?

Canis Lupus · 30-07-2008 10:50AM

You're so right OP.

Especially all those nasty people smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol and no one batting an eyelid over it.

Wreck · 30-07-2008 10:53AM

Don't forget the people who ingest large quantities of caffeine on a daily basis through coffee, tea and soft drinks, even in public! This kind of complacency sickens me.

togster · 30-07-2008 10:53AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

when did it all become so normal?

in the last few years. It's not just ireland tbh. I've seen people snort cocain and pop pills all over europe.

Dragan · 30-07-2008 10:55AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

Does anybody else find it disturbing that drug use has become so common and so accepted in Irish culture. I for one have never smoked or used drugs so I can't claim to know the 'benefit' of any of these but I just feel its taken nearly no time at all from going from knocking down drug dealers doors in the late 80's early 90's to suddenly seeing some smoking hash, or snorting a line and not passing a second glance. when did it all become so normal?

Mostly it all went wrong when the Government decided that rather than a truthful and honest bit of info they would run with the whole "drugs will kill you in seconds" thing. Then, when it turned out they were lying about cannabis going to kill you and getting stoned is actually a really nice feeling you have a lot of people who question what other bull**** they were told.

I cannot remember but i believe it was Seamus who made an excellent post on this issue before.

As for it being "normal" , it isn't.

Thats just silly.

brianthebard · 30-07-2008 10:58AM

It became normal in the fin de siecle era binges.

Canis Lupus · 30-07-2008 10:59AM

Dragan wrote: »

Then, when it turned out they were lying about cannabis going to kill you and getting stoned is actually a really nice feeling

If the government had spent more time warning me about the dangers of munchies (I shall have a bowl of muesli with.... oh... I've no milk... I shall use..... pepsi and... what's that I spy! A mars bar! That works with muesli and coke nyom nyom nyom) I'd probably have avoided trying weed.

Dave! · 30-07-2008 11:01AM

Maybe it's cos drugs are awesome. Get a life, square!

stovelid · 30-07-2008 11:05AM

togster wrote: »

in the last few years. It's not just ireland tbh. I've seen people snort cocain and pop pills all over europe.

How does one 'pop' pills?

Is it when they turn on, tune in and drop out?

Captain Ginger · 30-07-2008 11:06AM

Well, you can't just look at drugs and write them off as horrible killing things.

You have to realise that tanking up on heroin is very differnt than smoking a joint with a few mates. More harm in drinking all night than smoking some weed.

gixerfixer · 30-07-2008 11:06AM

When i was a kid i remember my mam and dad bringing me into town on the bus and seeing all the gearbags hanging about and thinking what a pack of losers.Nothing has changed.Anyone who uses drugs either coke,E or heroin are life's losers

Quazzie · 30-07-2008 11:25AM

Dave! wrote: »

Maybe it's cos drugs are awesome. Get a life, square!

I wonder should a Boards.ie Moderator be promoting drug use?

Captain Ginger · 30-07-2008 11:30AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I wonder should a Boards.ie Moderator be promoting drug use?

Well, considering he's mod of the non-drinkers forum I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

sunnyse · 30-07-2008 11:30AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

If the government had spent more time warning me about the dangers of munchies (I shall have a bowl of muesli with.... oh... I've no milk... I shall use..... pepsi and... what's that I spy! A mars bar! That works with muesli and coke nyom nyom nyom) I'd probably have avoided trying weed.

For some reason you can't be thanked so can I just say this is a fantastic Post:D:D:D
Would It be ok if I used it as my sig for a while???
Pretty please with good Canadian indica on top:D:D

Also I'm amazed how smallminded people can be on a subject. How can you have a valid arguement when you call everyone losers if they try a drug if you have no experience of any of them yourself??

When i was a kid i remember my mam and dad bringing me into town on the bus and seeing all the gearbags hanging about and thinking what a pack of losers.Nothing has changed.Anyone who uses drugs either coke,E or heroin are life's losers

PurpleBerry · 30-07-2008 11:31AM

stovelid wrote: »

How does one 'pop' pills?

Is it when they turn on, tune in and drop out?

You "pop" them in your mouth.

But this expression actually comes from the fact that most pills such as Neurofen and Solpadeine are vacuum-packed and you have to pop them out of their containers to get to the juicy deliciousness inside.

Of course, some pills come in a bottle, other pills come in a little teeny tiny plastic bag and some pills come inside a ladypill.

chopperbyrne · 30-07-2008 11:38AM

Drugs are bad mmmkay.

Dave! · 30-07-2008 11:42AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I wonder should a Boards.ie Moderator be promoting drug use?

Absolutely.

Dragan · 30-07-2008 11:44AM

Dave! wrote: »

Absolutely.

:pac:

Krsnik87 · 30-07-2008 11:50AM

If ya don't like drugs, fair enough but for gods sake please stop whining about how others choose to live their lives! Its not your place to judge so take a walk...

Quazzie · 30-07-2008 11:52AM

Is it fair that kids in my area as young as 13 are regularly smoking hash.? I hardly think thats a culture to be proud of!

Captain Ginger · 30-07-2008 11:55AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

Is it fair that kids in my area as young as 13 are regularly smoking hash.? I hardly think thats a culture to be proud of!

Why target hash? I think early teens drinking till they puke is a far bigger concern no?

Quazzie · 30-07-2008 11:57AM

I'm targeting hash because in my particular area and in everal others I know of it is much easier for them to get hash than it is to get alcohol because of the laws attached to alcohol.

brianthebard · 30-07-2008 11:59AM

Krsnik87 wrote: »

If ya don't like drugs, fair enough but for gods sake please stop whining about how others choose to live their lives! Its not your place to judge so take a walk...

but...Isn't your own post a whinge about how people choose to live their life?Mmm,i love the smell of irony in the morning.

AngryBadger · 30-07-2008 12:00PM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

Is it fair that kids in my area as young as 13 are regularly smoking hash.? I hardly think thats a culture to be proud of!

It's not fair to those kids maybe, but how does that relate to other adults who use drugs? I smoke cannabis fairly regularly, I'm an adult, I work a full-time job, and I have no criminal record, I'm entitled to make that decision for myself, but I bear no responsibility for children who have access to drugs, I'm not selling it to them, I'm certainly not encouraging them to use, so would you mind explaining how my use of drugs somehow makes me responsible for these kids?

sunnyse · 30-07-2008 12:02PM

brianthebard wrote: »

but...Isn't your own post a whinge about how people choose to live their life?Mmm,i love the smell of irony in the morning.

In fairness this is a thread about the EVILS of drugs. If it was a thread about the small mindedness of people you'd probably be right. The poster was reacting to rather than initiating.

Peteee · 30-07-2008 12:05PM

Never mind the drugs, Its disturbing to see the trend of american spelling creeping into every day use!

dr.bollocko · 30-07-2008 12:05PM

Drugs have gone hand in hand with society since society started.
Archeological evidence citing the existance of drug use goes back 10,000 years.

Even animals eat plants to get a psychoactive response.

It aint ever been the drugs that have been the problem, but the weak minds of those that abuse them.
Why can't the Joe Duffy "I'm a mother and..." brigade ever see that?

chopperbyrne · 30-07-2008 12:07PM

AngryBadger wrote: »

It's not fair to those kids maybe, but how does that relate to other adults who use drugs? I smoke cannabis fairly regularly, I'm an adult, I work a full-time job, and I have no criminal record, I'm entitled to make that decision for myself, but I bear no responsibility for children who have access to drugs, I'm not selling it to them, I'm certainly not encouraging them to use, so would you mind explaining how my use of drugs somehow makes me responsible for these kids?

You may not be selling it to them, but you are giving money to the people who are supplying these kids and thus prolonging the problem.

Cannabis is illegal you know :rolleyes:

Quazzie · 30-07-2008 12:09PM

Drugs have and always will be in use. I am not denying or objecting to that fact. Where my issues lie is that drug use is becoming normal, so normal that children now accept it as being a natural thing to do instead of the dreadful illegal and disgusting act it was percieved to be little more than ten years ago. Its seen as normal as going to the pub for a pint nowadays, (and I do realise that alcohol is just a different form of drug). Some of todays favourite celebraties are seen as rolemodels for our children and they publicly use drugs and flaunts its affects but todays media seem to publicize this as normal activity. Drug use by consenting adults in a private controlled respected manner is IMO acceptable, but publicizing and normalizing it isn't. When did society start to accept the likes of Pete Dohery and Amy Winehouse as rolemodels? and why should our national radio (paid for from our taxes) be allowed to promote these people and fund there habits by playing their music?

ScumLord · 30-07-2008 12:11PM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I'm targeting hash because in my particular area and in everal others I know of it is much easier for them to get hash than it is to get alcohol because of the laws attached to alcohol.

So your supporting legalisation because it would be harder for kids to get hash if it was legal.

The hash their smoking is probably soapbar to, which is barely hash and extremely bad for them. Tell their parents??

Kids smoking hash/cigarettes/drinking openly would be a sign of the neighbourhood going down the pan in my books too.

brianthebard · 30-07-2008 12:13PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Drugs have gone hand in hand with society since society started. Archeological evidence citing the existance of drug use goes back 10,000 years. Even animals eat plants to get a psychoactive response. It aint ever been the drugs that have been the problem, but the weak minds of those that abuse them. Why can't the Joe Duffy "I'm a mother and..." brigade ever see that?

they can't see that because it would take a considered,informed person instead of a knee jerker.

the popularisation and normalising of drug use!

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