Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

zing · 28-07-2008 10:43AM

The TB article in full

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2008/07/28/robbie-keane-set-to-complete-liverpool-fc-move-100252-21417676/

Also states Rafa is still deteremined to get Barry

Karmafaerie · 28-07-2008 10:51AM

Boggles wrote: »

Good Signing! He is a fan aswell I think?

Where did Liverpool get 20 million?

Wow.

You don't even think that Liverpool had a transfer budget of around £7-8,000,000!

That's fairly delusional Boggie.

Karmafaerie · 28-07-2008 10:52AM

zing wrote: »

The TB article in full

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2008/07/28/robbie-keane-set-to-complete-liverpool-fc-move-100252-21417676/

Also states Rafa is still deteremined to get Barry

Oh no, how dare Rafa imply that he's still interested in Barry!
I'm waiting for MON to start screaming about Rafa working through the media again!!!:rolleyes:

Dr_MaSoN · 28-07-2008 10:53AM

Boggles wrote: »

Good Signing! He is a fan aswell I think?

Where did Liverpool get 20 million?

Yeah , big pool fan.

Mr Alan · 28-07-2008 10:54AM

another captain signed by Rafa

raven136 · 28-07-2008 10:57AM

has any manager other than rafa been more interested in having captains of clubs/national teams in his squad

meditraitor · 28-07-2008 11:04AM

I like Robbie but is he worth £18/20 miliion? Im not convinced.

£12m at most

Hobart · 28-07-2008 11:09AM

meditraitor wrote: »

I like Robbie but is he worth £18/20 miliion? Im not convinced.

£12m at most

Probably, but then again I remember some (in particular) Manu fans saying that Torres would get 10-15 goals at most last year, after we signed him. The smell of egg on face was terrible.

12M, 18M, 20M, who cares, as long as he delivers?

The premium comes when you are a cut above the rest in the Prem and have a recent CL win to your name. Just look at the way the prices are hiked for Chelsea and Manu.

Mr Alan · 28-07-2008 11:09AM

meditraitor wrote: »

I like Robbie but is he worth £18/20 miliion? Im not convinced.

£12m at most

no offence mate, but if you were to adopt that approach you'd have us in mid table in no time.

Robbie Keane is DEFINATELY worth 18m in todays market, in fact with rumours of 30-35m for Berbatov, Robbie for 18 is a steal.

top clubs have to pay top prices for top players.

meditraitor · 28-07-2008 11:18AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

no offence mate, but if you were to adopt that approach you'd have us in mid table in no time.

Robbie Keane is DEFINATELY worth 18m in todays market, in fact with rumours of 30-35m for Berbatov, Robbie for 18 is a steal.

top clubs have to pay top prices for top players.

The approach of paying over the odds for players is not an approach I would take.

WE got lucky with Torres but we have had a fnuckload of rubbish forwards before him
Cisses-Hadj Diouf- etc etc

What makes Keane a 20 miliion £ player? I just cant see it.

Im not a rose tinted liverpool/Ireland fan, I remember many times watching Keane play rubbish for club and country and this is what makes me question his worth.
He is 28 now so if he was going to be considered anything other than just a good player he would have shone before now.

In saying that I hope your right and Im wrong

Mr Alan · 28-07-2008 11:19AM

does Keanes scoring and assists ratio in the PL over the last 4-5 years not make him a 20m player?

_blank_ · 28-07-2008 11:20AM

He's bleedin' class for Spurs.

Shíte for Ireland though.

prendy · 28-07-2008 11:23AM

im happy that the keane thing is nearly over,a very good signing

but we still have no wingers and with crouch gone i think our plan B options are very limited?

i mean all our front 4-5(torres keane kuyt stevie babel) are capable of scoring but against stubborn opposition what do we do after 70-80 mins if its scoreless to change things?

are yossi and pennant good enough to impact games that need something different?

what do ye think?

Hobart · 28-07-2008 11:27AM

meditraitor wrote: »

The approach of paying over the odds for players is not an approach I would take.

WE got lucky with Torres but we have had a fnuckload of rubbish forwards before him
Cisses-Hadj Diouf- etc etc

What makes Keane a 20 miliion £ player? I just cant see it.

Im not a rose tinted liverpool/Ireland fan, I remember many times watching Keane play rubbish for club and country and this is what makes me question his worth.
He is 28 now so if he was going to be considered anything other than just a good player he would have shone before now.

In saying that I hope your right and Im wrong

Paying over the odds for players, is the reality when you are a top 4 team. It's nor right, it's just the way things are. Utd have just agreed a 32M STG deal for Tevez (or at least that's the most reported figure). He's a fine player, but 32M? I don't think so.

Comparing Keane playing for Ireland V Keane playing for Spurs or Liverpool is silly tbh. They are 2(3) totally different teams.

zing · 28-07-2008 11:30AM

Hobart wrote: »

12M, 18M, 20M, who cares, as long as he delivers

+1

I can understand why some people won't get excited by this signing but his record the the PL over the last few years speaks for itself. If he can continue the form he's had for spurs he'll be worth every penny of 20m.

Karmafaerie · 28-07-2008 11:33AM

Keane is worth £18,000,000 every day of the week!
I wouldn't have been put out if we had, had to pay £25,000,000 for him TBH!
When Tezez with 15 goals last season costs £32,000,000 million, then anyone that thinks that Keane with 23 isn't worth £18,000,000 needs to get their head examined!;)

meditraitor · 28-07-2008 11:39AM

Hobart wrote: »

Comparing Keane playing for Ireland V Keane playing for Spurs or Liverpool is silly tbh. They are 2(3) totally different teams.

He is not a world beater

Stats dont show everything and he does not always shine for Spurs!

he is a 10 -15 goal a season League player (full season. regular starter)

I really do hope he is as good as some of you guys think he is but I dont see how being a bit cynical is silly?

prendy · 28-07-2008 11:47AM

if he gets 15 goals a season for us we'll all be happy!

monkey9 · 28-07-2008 11:48AM

It's not just his goals. I doubt Rafa is buying him as an out and out goalscorer. Hopefully, Torres will get into the twenties again this season. Keane can create a lot of chances, open up defences and also play in a number positions in various formations. I think he brings a lot to this squad, and as Karma said, i'd have no problem with Liverpool paying over the twenty million mark so eighteen mil is a great price i think, for us as well as Spurs who are making a great profit on him after years of brilliant service.

meditraitor · 28-07-2008 11:54AM

You guys might be right in your assumtion that he will be great for the team but only time will tell.
Lets hope that he can help us beat one or all of the big teams......... because that is what will make us into real title challengers.
Nothing else

Karmafaerie · 28-07-2008 11:55AM

meditraitor wrote: »

He is not a world beater

Stats dont show everything and he does not always shine for Spurs!

he is a 10 -15 goal a season League player (full season. regular starter)

I really do hope he is as good as some of you guys think he is but I dont see how being a bit cynical is silly?

Really?!

You should probably tell Spurs fans then, cause he's been voted their player of the season twice in the last three years.

You should also tell their staff, cause Martin Jol said that he's one of the best players he's ever worked with!:rolleyes:

DeadSkin · 28-07-2008 12:13PM

Des wrote: »

Shíte for Ireland though.

33 goals in 81 games for Ireland

meditraitor · 28-07-2008 12:15PM

Jesus lads - its not Lional Messi or Kaka we are signing here. My doubts about his true value seem to have exposed some strange notions.
Keane is not world class and never will be. Thats not to say he is useless but he is only a good premier league player.
Nobody here can assure me that his purchase will be the last piece of the Jigsaw to help us win the Premiership which is what we all want in our hearts.

Only time will tell

mike65 · 28-07-2008 12:15PM

33 goals in 81 games for Ireland

Most of them have come in spurts against crap teams. Still thats a seperate topic.

Mike.

missingtime · 28-07-2008 12:26PM

He's another piece of the puzzle if you ask me. 18m is a fair enough price I think. He's proven in the premiership, scores plenty of goals, allowed berbatov to score plenty of goals, he's a boyhood liverpool fan and a workhorse.
I didn't particularly like him that much but most of my viewing of him was in a green shirt and very few players looked good in that green shirt.
Welcome to the team Robbie

Chardee MacDennis · 28-07-2008 12:44PM

mike65 wrote: »

Most of them have come in spurts against crap teams. Still thats a seperate topic.

Mike.

coz we all know goals against crap teams dont count

If players of the standard of Carrick, Hargreaves, Jo, and Barry are worth 17-18m, Keane is definitely worth it. in fact in todays market i would see that as some what of a bargain - Crouch plus 6m cant go wrong....

HashSlinging · 28-07-2008 12:46PM

A little something of what to expect..

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=8fob012r4AM

They were quick getting this together.

Karmafaerie · 28-07-2008 12:51PM

meditraitor wrote: »

Jesus lads - its not Lional Messi or Kaka we are signing here. My doubts about his true value seem to have exposed some strange notions.
Keane is not world class and never will be. Thats not to say he is useless but he is only a good premier league player.
Nobody here can assure me that his purchase will be the last piece of the Jigsaw to help us win the Premiership which is what we all want in our hearts.

Only time will tell

No, we're not talking about Messi or Kaka, but then we're not talking about £50,000,000 either now are we.

Bent cost £18,000,000.
You saying that Keane isn't as good as Bent?

How about Amauri?
Who?
He's the 28 year old Brazillian striker that Juventus just paid £18,000,000 for.
Zarate cost £20,000,000
Jo cost £19,000,000.

You get the idea?

Keane for £18,000,000 is a steal.
To say that he's worth £12,000,000 cause he's not Messi or Kaka is a bit ridiculous to be honest.

missingtime · 28-07-2008 12:58PM

HashSlinging wrote: »

A little something of what to expect..

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=8fob012r4AM

They were quick getting this together.

I like the way they focus on the goals against liverpool just a little longer than the rest.

The goal against chelsea for 4-4 was sweet.

Here, what are the odds - first goal for liverpool, he does that cartwheel celebration.

eZe^ · 28-07-2008 01:02PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

When Tezez with 15 goals last season costs £32,000,000 million,

Jaysus, 32 million million... What a rip off...:D

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