Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

HashSlinging

I dont care if he does the cartwheel celebration, as long as he's knockin them in. He's a great guy is a fantastic signing, very surprised at the price tag though but thats the prem for you.

Karmafaerie

mike65 wrote: »

Most of them have come in spurts against crap teams. Still thats a seperate topic.

Mike.

1999-09-01 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Yugoslavia 2-1 UEFA Euro 2000 qualifying 1 (3)
1999-11-13 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Turkey 1-1 UEFA Euro 2000 qualifying 1 (5)
2001-11-10 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Czech Republic 2-0 Friendly match 1 (6)
2000-09-02 Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam Netherlands 2-2 2002 FIFA World Cup qualification 1 (7)
2001-11-10 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Iran 2-0 2002 FIFA World Cup qualification 1 (8)
2002-02-13 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Russia 2-0 Friendly match 1 (9)
2002-06-05 Kashima Stadium, Kashima, Ibaraki Germany 1-1 2002 FIFA World Cup 1 (11)
2002-06-11 International Stadium of Yokohama, Yokohama Saudi Arabia 3-0 2002 FIFA World Cup 1 (12)
2002-06-16 Suwon Big Bird Stadium, Suwon Spain 1-1 2002 FIFA World Cup 1 (13)
2004-03-31 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Czech Republic 2-1 Friendly match 1 (19)
2004-06-05 Amsterdam ArenA, Amsterdam Netherlands 1-0 Friendly match 1 (20)
2004-11-16 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Croatia 1-0 Friendly match 1 (24)
2006-03-01 Landsdowne Road, Dublin Sweden 3-0 Friendly match 1 (26)
2008-05-29 Craven Cottage, London Colombia 1-0 Friendly match 1 (33)

You know, for a player who doesn't score against top class opposition, or in big games.
He's got a horrible habit of scoring against top class opposition, and in important games!

Holland, Spain, Germany, Croatia, Yugoslavia, Czech Republic, Sweden, Scoring the goal that got us to the World Cup.
Scoring in all bar one of our games in the world cup!

Yeah, he's a joke for Ireland!:rolleyes:

meditraitor

Karmafaerie wrote: »

No, we're not talking about Messi or Kaka, but then we're not talking about £50,000,000 either now are we.

Bent cost £18,000,000.
You saying that Keane isn't as good as Bent?

How about Amauri?
Who?
He's the 28 year old Brazillian striker that Juventus just paid £18,000,000 for.
Zarate cost £20,000,000
Jo cost £19,000,000.

You get the idea?

Keane for £18,000,000 is a steal.
To say that he's worth £12,000,000 cause he's not Messi or Kaka is a bit ridiculous to be honest.

You made my point

We do not want a Bent. And to suggest that 18million for an average Premiershiip player is rediculous.

Spurs are rubbing thier hands with glee "these fnuking idiots want to give us 20m for keane" Even the spurs fans on this site are happy to let him go for that!!!!!!
If he was as much of a talent as you think they would not be selling him.

You should take those green tinted glasses of and get real

_blank_

Why have you posted five friendly matches as evidence of goalscoring in important games?

Karmafaerie

eZe^ wrote: »

Jaysus, 32 million million... What a rip off...:D

:D

herbieflowers

Hey, let's hope Benitez doesn't plonk Kenae on the wing, seems to have a penchant for doing that with all his strikers bar King Fernando!

missingtime

meditraitor wrote: »

You made my point

We do not want a Bent. And to suggest that 18million for an average Premiershiip player is rediculous.

Spurs are rubbing thier hands with glee "these fnuking idiots want to give us 20m for keane" Even the spurs fans on this site are happy to let him go for that!!!!!!
If he was as much of a talent as you think they would not be selling him.

You should take those green tinted glasses of and get real

It doesn't matter what the cost is if it works. Utd paid 18m for carrick and won the premier league.

Sherifu

Des wrote: »

Why have you posted five friendly matches as evidence of goalscoring in important games?

Well we aren't qualifying for anything so I guess they're kind of important.

meditraitor

missingtime wrote: »

It doesn't matter what the cost is if it works. Utd paid 18m for carrick and won the premier league.

True. but they were a lot closer to it before the purchase than we are now....

Karmafaerie

Des wrote: »

Why have you posted five friendly matches as evidence of goalscoring in important games?

Well

Karmafaerie wrote:

You know, for a player who doesn't score against top class opposition, or in big games.

Cause as I said, top class opotition, or in big games.

The Dutch, and Czechs were some of the best in the world at the time.
The Russians, weren't world beaters, but still good.
The Sweeds were great (Larson and Zlatan!)
The point still stands though.
Keane scores consistantly, against whomever he plays, at whichever level he plays.

Or is 3 goals in 4 games in the World Cup not enough?!

missingtime

meditraitor wrote: »

True. but they were a lot closer to it before the purchase than we are now....

Perhaps. One more piece of the puzzle is needed. Hopefully we'll get it this summer.

monkey9

meditraitor wrote: »

You made my point

We do not want a Bent. And to suggest that 18million for an average Premiershiip player is rediculous.

Spurs are rubbing thier hands with glee "these fnuking idiots want to give us 20m for keane" Even the spurs fans on this site are happy to let him go for that!!!!!!
If he was as much of a talent as you think they would not be selling him.

You should take those green tinted glasses of and get real

There's no green tinted glasses here. Him being Irish has nothing to do with it, in fact i could turn that around and say if he was Spanish and doing for Valencia in La Liga what he's being doing for Spurs these past few seasons, people would be talking about a bargain of 18m.

Karmafaerie

meditraitor wrote: »

You made my point

We do not want a Bent. And to suggest that 18million for an average Premiershiip player is rediculous.

Spurs are rubbing thier hands with glee "these fnuking idiots want to give us 20m for keane" Even the spurs fans on this site are happy to let him go for that!!!!!!
If he was as much of a talent as you think they would not be selling him.

You should take those green tinted glasses of and get real

You said Keane isn't worth £18,000,000.
A number of people here said he is.
You're reasoning for him to not be worth £18,000,000 is that he's not Messi or Kaka!
Well if you can get us either of those players for £18,000,000 I'll back you as the God of the universe!
In fact, if you can get either of them for twice that, I'll back you!
You can't say that Keane isn't worth £18,000,000 cause he's not as good as a player who's worth £50,000,000!
That make any sense to you at all?!!

I listed 4 players who were recently (or a year ago in Bents case) bought for £18,000,000 or more.
Keane is better than all of them!
How can you not understand the simple logic in that?!
It doesn't matter if you think he's not worth £18,000,000.
The football world in general think he is!
Prices go up from one season to another!!!!!:rolleyes:

Mr Alan

that was a pretty super post karma

herbieflowers

Does anyone know what Pool's transfer kitty is? I know they sold Crouch, but wasn't the move for Barry dependent on them offloading Alonso?

sweetie

if andy johnson is worth 12 then keane is worth 24 mill. Delighted with this signing and great to have another Irishman at the club. He deserves a crack at the big time and champions league (no disrespect to Spurs, I like the way they play the game)

meditraitor

Karmafaerie wrote: »

You said Keane isn't worth £18,000,000.
A number of people here said he is.:

Thats fine I agree, I think he is worth max 12m and some of the other think he is worth 18.
OK fair point

Karmafaerie wrote: »

You're reasoning for him to not be worth £18,000,000 is that he's not Messi or Kaka!
Well if you can get us either of those players for £18,000,000 I'll back you as the God of the universe!:

You should never put words into people mouths-or make up things to post to make a point

My point about KAKA and Messi is that they are the type of players that its worth getting excited over not Robbie Keane but whatever floats your boat

Karmafaerie wrote: »

In fact, if you can get either of them for twice that, I'll back you!
You can't say that Keane isn't worth £18,000,000 cause he's not as good as a player who's worth £50,000,000!
That make any sense to you at all?!!:

What type of nonsense is this? Is that the best you can do, make things up to validate your post?

Karmafaerie wrote: »

I listed 4 players who were recently (or a year ago in Bents case) bought for £18,000,000 or more.
Keane is better than all of them!:

And bent is pure tripe, Spurs made a very bad decision and now maybe its time for the Ying of that yang
Spending too much on Bent and getting to much for Keane (see your name --- Karma)

Karmafaerie wrote: »

How can you not understand the simple logic in that?!
It doesn't matter if you think he's not worth £18,000,000.
The football world in general think he is!
Prices go up from one season to another!!!!!:rolleyes:

With an imagination like yours I can understand why you think Keane for 20m is a bargain but we all dont live in the clouds!

Cop on

Mr Alan

can i just say i think Bent is an excellent player.

raven136

keane is worth 18m.He scores goals,he is experienced and he is a premiership player,all 3 factors make him an 18-20m player.
Being based in england makes you more expensive.
Johnson and Saha are talked about as 10-14m players so keane is worth it,

If someone told you we were getting spain/italy's captain and record goalscorer who scored 15-20 league goals a season im sure you would be pretty fcuking excited.

spockety

Keane's monetary value is not really worth debating at all. In fact, very few transfers have a value that is worth debating at the time they are signed.

The world will know within 2 seasons if Liverpool got value for money when buying Robbie Keane.

~Rebel~

meditraitor wrote: »

Thats fine I agree, I think he is worth max 12m and some of the other think he is worth 18.
OK fair point



You should never put words into people mouths-or make up things to post to make a point

My point about KAKA and Messi is that they are the type of players that its worth getting excited over not Robbie Keane but whatever floats your boat



What type of nonsense is this? Is that the best you can do, make things up to validate your post?



And bent is pure tripe, Spurs made a very bad decision and now maybe its time for the Ying of that yang
Spending too much on Bent and getting to much for Keane (see your name --- Karma)




With an imagination like yours I can understand why you think Keane for 20m is a bargain but we all dont live in the clouds!

Cop on

The bottom line is that Keane will bring something to Liverpool. He doesn't even need to improve, if he just does what he's done over the past 5 years (thats getting lots of goals and having a consistent 1 goal for every 2 starts), then thats worth 18mil+. He's not David Villa, but he's a hard worker and a goalscorer. 12million, we'd be lucky to get Kenwyn Jones for that tbh. Keane will immediately improve the first team, thats something worth getting a bit excited about.

mike65

Roberto Keanznho yep he's worth 18 million.

Mike

Mr Alan

if he had a pony tail I'd pay 25m for him tbh

monkey9

Ok meditraitor, say for arguements sake the final decision rests with yourself. You can have Keane for Liverpool, but it'll cost the club eighteen million. Do you take him, yes or no??

meditraitor

~Rebel~ wrote: »

The bottom line is that Keane will bring something to Liverpool. He doesn't even need to improve, if he just does what he's done over the past 5 years (thats getting lots of goals and having a consistent 1 goal for every 2 starts), then thats worth 18mil+. He's not David Villa, but he's a hard worker and a goalscorer. 12million, we'd be lucky to get Kenwyn Jones for that tbh. Keane will immediately improve the first team, thats something worth getting a bit excited about.

I hope your right. But I still think 20m for him is over the odds. Anyway only time will tell if we have another Cisse or another Torres(20.2m). In between is my guess which is not a whole lot better than Crouch.

meditraitor

monkey9 wrote: »

Ok meditraitor, say for arguements sake the final decision rests with yourself. You can have Keane for Liverpool, but it'll cost the club eighteen million. Do you take him, yes or no??

No

astrofool

Mr Alan wrote: »

if he had a pony tail I'd pay 25m for him tbh

What if he had a mullet?

Mr Alan

ok mediator, for 18m who would you buy instead?

monkey9

meditraitor wrote: »

No

Fair enough. But i reckon by the end of the season you'll be glad we bought him and if it cost 18m, then so be it

~Rebel~

astrofool wrote: »

What if he had a mullet?

! 40mill for a mullet man! He'd instantly become my favourite player of all time.