Moonman says aliens have visited Earth.

spudster101 · 25-07-2008 04:00PM

Well the way I look at it is which sounds more ridiculas, life has developed in different forms on various planets across our galaxy and universe or we are the only form of life in the vast vast vast expanse of the universe. And if the latter is so I suggest you get down on your knees and start praying to some sort of god cause the chances of that are highly unlikely.

I do not believe though we have been visited which has been said here already, all depends as is so obvious on how developed a race is.
Development depends on intelligence, physics are just rules to be broken or a new set formulated.

Right Im off to iron my star trek uniform:D

Maximilian · 25-07-2008 05:52PM

GasserOfMattoon wrote: »

Just because He's an astronaut doesn't make him an expert...

dr.bollocko wrote: »

And just because he's an expert doesn't make him right.

Just because um he's right, doesn't make him a person.

dr.bollocko · 25-07-2008 06:09PM

Maximilian wrote: »

Just because um he's right, doesn't make him a person.

Now you're getting it.
Thats how I got nearly 3000 posts you know.

Supercell · 25-07-2008 06:12PM

Its funny how people can believe in Jebus was the son of an all powerful deity through the loins of his virgin mother..., but, suggest that we have been visited by aliens and they say that's crazy and impossible.

I know which I think is more likely to be true.

dr.bollocko · 25-07-2008 06:13PM

Aliens are SO 90's though.
The Ace of Bass of crap we have been speculating about.

ART6 · 25-07-2008 06:24PM

Please be careful with these sorts of posts -- you might get taken seriously, in which case the government will attempt to deal with the problem of alien invasion with new taxes and John Gormley will ban home heating oil in case the aliens steal it for their space ships.:o

Maximilian · 25-07-2008 07:02PM

I'd love all this aliens stuff to be real, mainly because I'd like to buy a spaceship from them and get off this rock but on reading the "other interests" section in the Wikipedia entry on Mitchell, I think there's a fair chance he's nuts.

Latchy · 25-07-2008 07:16PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

Exactly :pac:

How can you comment on a hr long tv programme you havent seen ( i assume ) by just looking at the preview link or my post ? Perhaps i should just have said two policemen and a policewomon also saw the strange object up close .Simple error ,nothing else . :pac:

Maybe it's just the season for Aliens

As mentioned in the article above ,if any goverments do know of any Alian visitors they wont want anybody to know for fear of mass panic .:D

Hey, were did the x files theme tune come from ? :eek:

Riddle101 · 25-07-2008 08:58PM

Ok as much as i do believe in other life on planets, this sounds too fishy to me. I don't believe a word of it and it sounds to me like it's made up, why would this guy do an interview on Karrang Radio of all things when he could do one on a better place like the Internet

AntiRip · 25-07-2008 10:48PM

latchyco wrote: »

Britain's closest encounters

http://uk-tv-guide.com/pick-of-the-day/23-7-2008/documentary-britains-closest-encounters-ufo-alley-what-happened-in-todmorden

thank you

lostexpectation · 26-07-2008 01:27AM

anybody see the moon crashing to earth tonight, big nad oragne its coming runs for your lives (although you won't be able to outrun it)

delija_sever029 · 26-07-2008 11:23PM

The truth is out there.....

:D:D

brianthebard · 26-07-2008 11:30PM

Supercell wrote: »

Its funny how people can believe in Jebus was the son of an all powerful deity through the loins of his virgin mother..., but, suggest that we have been visited by aliens and they say that's crazy and impossible.

I know which I think is more likely to be true.

in fairness though the cc are ok with aliens,so they aren't being hypocritical...For once.

Sea Sharp · 27-07-2008 02:28AM

Yiz should look at the disclosure project video.

A large number of ex high ranking officals including air traffic controllers, ex secret op. officers, commercial pilots, numorous military defence specialists with top secret clearance, people who had access to very sensitive documents lieutenants, ex commanders in the u.s airforce, astronauts,etc... all going befor ethe national press club to discuss what their experiences have been regarding u.f.o's and all are willing to go before congress to testify under oath.. never before has such a group come forward.. this is a must see it is long.. extremely informative and enlightening.

linkey: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=disclosure+project&sitesearch=#

I never investigated the authenticity of it though, but it seems pretty legit.

It's a lot more plausable than Jebus

smellslikeshoes · 27-07-2008 03:57AM

This distance argument doesn't fly for me. If there is life out there it stands to reason that there could a large number of inhabited worlds and some of them would have to be more technologically advanced than us. Even a 100 years ago people wouldn't have thought it possible to go to the moon. Imagine a civilization even a small number like a thousand years ahead of us where they would be. Remember that 1000 years ago we were living in what were essentially huts and look at us now.

antodeco · 27-07-2008 10:33AM

I still live in a hut. Stoopid recession...ugada bugada

27-07-2008 11:08AM

We've only been going into space for 50 years. And the furthest we've gotten is the Moon. What if a race had discovered space travel hundreds of years ago.

Latchy · 28-07-2008 08:44PM

I watched war of the worlds last night on BBC 1 .

That's it , i am getting the fcuk outta here before they arrive and i'm taking my george foreman with me to .

IvaBigWun · 28-07-2008 08:49PM

Im para-phrasing a quote I once heard but it went something like

"Only a race as arrogant as human beings could presume they're alone in such a vast galaxy"

But Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones summed it up better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPll-TKaEE

Latchy · 28-07-2008 08:54PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Im para-phrasing a quote I once heard but it went something like

"Only a race as arrogant as human beings could presume they're alone in such a vast galaxy"

That's the beauty of that quote ,it also makes us ask the question ' are we alone' .

I think there is a part of our human make up that want's us to believe we are not ,which either way doesnt answer the question .

maninasia · 29-07-2008 09:30AM

Procasinator wrote: »

This guy also conducted unofficial ESP experiments while in space. I would say he has an overactive imagination myself.

How about people who read a book full of stories about demons, spirits, burning bushes, speaking in tongues, people coming down in lights and coming back from the dead. If he was a Christian would his word be taken more seriously?

He's old and he might not be as sharp or quick as he was but that shouldn't be held against him. He does have a few new age ideas about consciousness etc, what's the difference with the typical Christian I ask? Remember this guy was a scientist and one of the first and only people to walk on the moon.
I saw his interview on Larry King and he grew up in the Roswell area and knew all the local ranchers personally. He was obviously a major celebrity in the town and somebody people look up to. It wouldn't be any surprise if people told him things that they would be afraid to say otherwise, especially since he was literally a spaceman himself.
He doesn't claim to have seen anything himself, just people of his generation from the area told him that they'd be put under strict orders not to talk about that event and that they felt like telling somebody before they died (independently came to him according to Mitchell) and people high up in the military admitted somethings to him. He's not saying he was telepathically communicating with aliens.

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=8QKW6Gt3KKs

In it you can see a well known 'tv scientist' Bill Nye, who actually knows nothing about the fields of UFOs or space at all but is somehow brought on to 'counterbalance' Mitchell, in the process he makes himself look like a complete jerk trying to talk over Mitchell all the time and not admitting the fact that Mitchell is from the Roswell area and might know what he is talking about.

Think about it, Bush tells people he gets his convictions from a fairy tale story of demons, gods, spirits etc. but most of you guys laugh off Mitchell as a 'new ager'. Why does he become an object of ridicule because he speaks honestly about what he believes in and people told him, it's a lot different than the average public figure. NASA states it doesn't 'share his views' and doesn't 'track UFOs', NASA wouldn't have anything to do with Roswell, but Mitchell does because he grew up there!

maninasia · 29-07-2008 09:47AM

rossie1977 wrote: »

earth is about 26,000 light years from the centre of our own tiny galaxy and there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe

there could be intelligent lifeforms in every galaxy but unless like you said they have the ability to travel at stupid speeds or change the laws of physics it is highly unlikely they have or ever will come close to visiting earth

They don't need to change the laws of physics. Anyone who argues that distance will be a problem hasn't thought about this at all. An advanced civilisation can travel across the whole field of the Milky Way galaxy, which contains billions of potential solar systems, in less than 100,000 years at considerably less than the speed of light. Our universe is estimated to be 10 billions years old, our solar system 6 billion years old.
If they sent out millions of robotic probes for exploration anytime in the last 6 BILLION YEARS from ANY ONE of the billions of solar system what is the problem?

We will have the same capability within a 100 years or so, and that is without taking into account the ability to use wormholes/time travel with massive energy sources in the next 500-1000 years of our technological development. You are really showing your ignorance here.

Maximilian · 29-07-2008 10:31AM

maninasia wrote: »

They don't need to change the laws of physics. Anyone who argues that distance will be a problem hasn't thought about this at all. An advanced civilisation can travel across the whole field of the Milky Way galaxy, which contains billions of potential solar systems, in less than 100,000 years at considerably less than the speed of light. Our universe is estimated to be 10 billions years old, our solar system 6 billion years old.
If they sent out millions of robotic probes for exploration anytime in the last 6 BILLION YEARS from ANY ONE of the billions of solar system what is the problem?

We will have the same capability within a 100 years or so, and that is without taking into account the ability to use wormholes/time travel with massive energy sources in the next 500-1000 years of our technological development. You are really showing your ignorance here.

Of course, it's obvious now. Obviously, time-travelling robotic wormhole espresso machines will soon be available. We are all tards. I'll just refresh Komplett with my credit card details to hand until it happens. BRB.

That post would have been fine & dandy. But no true Scientician can resist throwing in the "you're a thicko" comment at the end. It's tiresome & nobody is impressed Maninasia.

maninasia · 29-07-2008 10:43AM

Thicko is as thicko says. A few posters trot out the standard line such as 'distance' is an issue, when in fact it's not an issue at all taking into account the age of the universe, the size of the galaxy, the number of solar systems and the level of technological development required to scout out the whole galaxy (a civilisation perhaps 100 years ahead of our development).
For some reason this idea of 'distance' preventing extra-terrestrial civilisations visiting here is trotted our very regularly by people who comment on this sort of stuff but I've never actually seen the reason stated as to why this is! If they meant an alien civilisation from a galaxy thats 10 billion light years away, maybe, but from our local Milky Way galaxy it would seem almost a probable event. Parroting things by rote is ignorance or what would you call it?

It's not about being impressed, it's about calling out bs ideas, when they are not backed up by any rational thought or any actual knowledge. I'm not sure what you are getting upset about.

dr.bollocko · 29-07-2008 10:47AM

maninasia wrote: »

Thicko is as thicko says. A few posters trot out the standard line such as 'distance' is an issue, when in fact it's not an issue at all taking into account the age of the universe, the size of the galaxy, the number of solar systems and the level of technological development required to scout out the whole galaxy (a civilisation perhaps 100 years ahead of our development). It's not about being impressed, it's about calling out bs ideas.

:eek:
You sir are misinformed.

Maximilian · 29-07-2008 11:27AM

maninasia wrote: »

Thicko is as thicko says. A few posters trot out the standard line such as 'distance' is an issue, when in fact it's not an issue at all taking into account the age of the universe, the size of the galaxy, the number of solar systems and the level of technological development required to scout out the whole galaxy (a civilisation perhaps 100 years ahead of our development).
For some reason this idea of 'distance' preventing extra-terrestrial civilisations visiting here is trotted our very regularly by people who comment on this sort of stuff but I've never actually seen the reason stated as to why this is! If they meant an alien civilisation from a galaxy thats 10 billion light years away, maybe, but from our local Milky Way galaxy it would seem almost a probable event. Parroting things by rote is ignorance or what would you call it?

It's not about being impressed, it's about calling out bs ideas, when they are not backed up by any rational thought or any actual knowledge. I'm not sure what you are getting upset about.

I'm not upset at all - I'm bemused by your attitude. Also by your theories. If it's all so simple, why hasn't it been done yet? Where are they aliens? You've thought of everything, so let's hear it.

Davidius · 29-07-2008 11:34AM

Of course with there being so much life in the universe, why would the most advanced species bother themselves with us when they can be studying the other aliens. :pac:

Though I feel that something that should be taken into account is that (chances are) these aliens are not human at all. They may not think like we do and probably don't care as much about exploration. They could do things differently and comparing our level of development to theirs may be impossible.

Stop judging the alienz on h00man qualiteez plx?

maninasia · 29-07-2008 12:43PM

Maximilian wrote: »

I'm not upset at all - I'm bemused by your attitude. Also by your theories. If it's all so simple, why hasn't it been done yet? Where are they aliens? You've thought of everything, so let's hear it.

As the last poster said, they don't need to follow our motivations. I just stated that if they were of a technological advancement that was similar to ours it wouldn't be too difficult to get around if they so wish. In addition, they wouldn't need to show themselves either if they didn't want to (much like a stealth fighter is invisible to radar, hiding from us would be a piece of cake). Lastly if they are just looking around, they might not be here all the time, just occasionally.

It's my 'guess' that at least microbial life is common in the universe from the physical characteristics that some species display (dormancy millions of years, resistance to cosmic radiation damage, survival in vacuum, existence in a vast array of ecosystems, easily float across space on cosmic wind, rapid evolutionary adaptation and huge genetic diversity, diverse energy sources from chemical and light). If you take the ubiquity of microbial life across the galaxy as a premise it's hardly rocket science to think the same processes that unfolded on earth have unfolded countless times in other solar systems.

Lastly, it's good to remember nothing in the universe is perfect due to the laws of physics it is impossible to completely predict every event, even advanced beings would suffer mishaps from time to time. They are not some type of omnipresent supreme beings. It is in the realm of possibility that they could crash land.

Maximilian · 29-07-2008 12:53PM

maninasia wrote: »

As the last poster said, they don't need to follow our motivations. I just stated that if they were of a technological advancement that was similar to ours it wouldn't be too difficult to get around if they so wish. In addition, they wouldn't need to show themselves either if they didn't want to (much like a stealth fighter is invisible to radar, hiding from us would be a piece of cake).
Lastly if they are just looking around, they might not be here all the time, just occasionally.
But remember, nothing in the universe is perfect due to the laws of physics it is impossible to completely predict every event, even advanced beings would suffer mishaps from time to time. They are not some type of omnipresent supreme beings.

/facepalm.

There's an awful lot of "if" in your posts. There's plenty of speculation too. There's even more imagination.

Far too much in fact for you to go about calling people ignorant.

Terry · 29-07-2008 12:57PM

maninasia wrote: »

Thicko is as thicko says.

Momma always told me to attack the post, not the poster.
Please remember that when posting here in the future.

Moonman says aliens have visited Earth.

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