Are you a European?

Blush_01 · 19-06-2008 10:56PM #1

The aftermath of the whole Lisbon thing has been pretty shocking or hilarious, depending on your sense of humour. One thing it's made me wonder though is whether you consider yourself to be a European or not. Personally, the ability to call myself a European is not something that even registered as significant until I asked some friends and they were divided on whether it was important to them or not.

So, whaddaya think?

Rob_l · 19-06-2008 11:00PM

I have no opinion on this subject at all
I believe im Irish does this affect my european status

Latchy · 19-06-2008 11:00PM

The irish sea and the english channel has a lot to do with the peoples of these island feeling less european than their mainland european neighbours ,that's one thing the irsh and brits have in common ,a deep fear of being controlled by others and losing their cultural identity.Two island races who have more in common with each other than they ' somtimes ' like to admit

My passport telles me i am both irish and european

KnifeWRENCH · 19-06-2008 11:01PM

I am Irish. Ireland is in Europe. Therefore I am also European.
The people of Norway are European. The people of Switzerland/Croatia/other countries in Europe but not in the E.U. , are all European.

Perhaps your question needs rephrasing?

Latchy · 19-06-2008 11:03PM

You also have to remember the irish who live abroad to OP .

We are all your a peeing

toiletduck · 19-06-2008 11:03PM

I don't subscribe to any idea of being part of a "European Identity". We're closer to Boston and Birmingham than Brussels :pac:

tracker-man · 19-06-2008 11:05PM

what the op means i think, is do you feel you are a european, part of europe. Do you feel as proud to be a european as you do irish. Personaly i do. I am glad to be irish and glad to be european.

Blush_01 · 19-06-2008 11:14PM

While technically those from Europe are European, I don't feel in any way affiliated with Europe, the "mainland" if you will. I don't see myself as being European, rather I am an Irish person, any links to Europe feel more accidental than anything else. I don't identify myself as being part of a wider European group, there's no sense of connection there and definitely no sense of community or communal pride.

brianthebard · 19-06-2008 11:18PM

kinda irish,kinda martian.the european identity is a myth imo.
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Latchy · 19-06-2008 11:19PM

I wonder is it more confusing for northern uniniosts now that they are also european as well as irish/british ?

RayM · 19-06-2008 11:21PM

I don't feel proud to be either Irish or European. I don't understand how anybody could be proud of something in which happened via fluke, rather than achievement. I identify with being Irish far more than European though. I'd like to feel more European, but it's not really something that I find easy to identify with. And I reckon there are probably a few hundred million other Europeans who feel similarly. Which is why I can't ever see any kind of European 'superstate' working properly - at least not in the same way as the United States of America.

rossie1977 · 19-06-2008 11:30PM

irish first, roscommon second or maybe its the other way round

i seriously doubt any irish person would say they are european if asked by a stranger

wtf is europe anyway, is turkey in europe or is it in asia, is israel in europe, is russia in europe

Blush_01 · 19-06-2008 11:34PM

Only for Eurovision purposes.

Latchy · 19-06-2008 11:34PM

My sister born and bread in dublin has lived in hollond for over 30 years ,married a dutchman and obiously speaks the lingo .As much as she loves her irish roots ,she would consider herself to be more dutch ( as opposed to european ) now than irish ,even with duel nationality .

pickarooney · 19-06-2008 11:35PM

We'll all be European when someone picks a war with us or if Europe is the finals of something.

Rob_l · 19-06-2008 11:36PM

pickarooney wrote: »

We'll all be European when someone picks a war with us or if Europe is the finals of something.

the ryder cup

Dave! · 19-06-2008 11:37PM

I'm both Irish and European. I do not have any strong feelings about being either. That's just the way it is.

rossie1977 · 19-06-2008 11:39PM

latchyco wrote: »

My sister born and bread in dublin has lived in hollond for over 30 years ,married a dutchman and obiously speaks the lingo .As much as she loves her irish roots ,she would consider herself to be more dutch ( as opposed to european ) now than irish ,even with duel nationality .

my aunt is the same, born in the bogs of roscommon, moved over to manchester about 35 years ago now thinks of herself as english has the accent and all, my dad is the opposite he left donegal 50 years ago as a teen but still would never consider himself to be anything but a donegal man

Bob the Builder · 19-06-2008 11:42PM

I'll have an Irish breakfast with european ketchup. Being a part of the EU is just a saucy thing you can brag about the odd time. It's the rashers and sausages that make the breakfast.

Latchy · 19-06-2008 11:49PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

my aunt is the same, born in the bogs of roscommon, moved over to manchester about 35 years ago now thinks of herself as english has the accent and all, my dad is the opposite he left donegal 50 years ago as a teen but still would never consider himself to be anything but a donegal man

I suppose many might find themselfs caught in that situation like my sister and your aunt .It's an identity thing specialy if you have lived outside your native country for so many years .In my own case i could never consider myself nothing other than irish and have no problem with the european tag either

Rob_l · 19-06-2008 11:52PM

I have discovered my opinion on this subject I feel european when I can cruise through the european citizens sections in airports

Ruu_Old · 19-06-2008 11:54PM

Never thought of myself as a European.

Irishtrekkie · 19-06-2008 11:58PM

Proud Irish , and Proud European (being of dual nationality Irish/Italian (Irish mum, Italian dad, born and bread in dublin but spend alot of time in Italy , andwith family in france , england and other countries in Europe and a german gf i guess i am living the European dream

Mweelrea · 20-06-2008 12:16AM

Blush_01 wrote: »

Only for Eurovision purposes.

Kazahkstan were in the Euro 08 qualifiers as were numerous other asian countries that are miles from europe.

Personally i'm irish and have no affinity for europe at all

nyarlothothep · 20-06-2008 12:16AM

although I don't define myself through culturally constructed identities related to place, I would be somewhat proud to align myself to Europe, which, in my opinion, represents as a collective entity one of the most, if not the most, advanced civilizations in the world.

Beer is Life · 20-06-2008 12:22AM

Ruu wrote: »

Never thought of myself as a European.

On the contrary, ive always felt an affinity for Europe and the idea of being both Irish and European. I like European culture, history, people and suprisingly I love the climate!

dfx- · 20-06-2008 12:37AM

nyarlothothep wrote: »

I would be somewhat proud to align myself to Europe, which, in my opinion, represents as a collective entity one of the most, if not the most, advanced civilizations in the world.

Similar to me. I'd consider myself European equally as Irish, tbh.

JC 2K3 · 20-06-2008 12:39AM

I like Ireland, I identify as Irish. I don't feel any connection with continental Europe and I'm not hugely admiring of any aspect of their culture. So I wouldn't identify as European in the slightest.

WooPeeA · 20-06-2008 12:45AM

I feel more as citizen of this world, equal to others. Not better, not worst.

But voted From another European country and European., as it's the closest to my identify.

Pride Fighter · 20-06-2008 01:08AM

Im half martian half saturnian:)

rossie1977 · 20-06-2008 01:12AM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Im half martian half saturnian:)

the earths closeness to the sun compared with saturn must really mean you tan quickly

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