ESB looking for an increase of 30%

Rb · 18-06-2008 02:42PM

seamus wrote: »

The government would be idiots to allow this through. They're already facing 12-18 months of recession and reduced affordability. An increase of 30% on electricity would result in crucification at the local elections.

Indeed. I'd imagine should they let this go through, it could well be the end of Fianna Fail

mikemac · 18-06-2008 02:46PM

Westwood wrote: »

unbe****inglievable :mad: as if it wasnt expensive already. myself and the girlfriend have really cut corners over the past few months to try and reduce these prices which are always at the €200 mark for two months lecy. whats everyone else avergae bill? I feel ours is very high and we dont abuse it at all....

€200?
If it's just the two of you in the gaff, then what exactly are you doing?
You say you aren't abusing but it still takes a lot to run up that mush. You're messing around somewhere. Time for you to do some research, lots of tips out there.

Last houseshare I was (with current prices) in had 3 people and it never went above €120, ever! And that included all the expensive to run devices like electric shower, immersion and a dryer. Gotto watch those dryers folks, very expensive to run.

Glowing · 18-06-2008 03:11PM

micmclo wrote: »

Gotto watch those dryers folks, very expensive to run.

I can understand a large family needing one, but for two people? We just put the wash on overnight, hang it out during the the next morning (it rains surprisingly little), then take it in in the evening, hang it inside overnight, and they're usually ready to wear the following morning.

Oh, replacing all your bulbs with energy savers will make a HUGE difference .....

Peteee · 18-06-2008 03:19PM

Don't know why anyone is surprised by this price increase.

What did you think the ESB used to power its power stations? Irish charm and baby leprechauns instead of Oil, Gas and Coal.

SimpleSam06 · 18-06-2008 03:23PM

The tragedy is that we are absoloutely swimming in power here in this country, quite literally. Ireland is one of the best placed countries in the world to take advantage of wind power. A string of offshore turbines up the west coast could handily produce most or all of our power needs. Of course our political leadership is too busy counting the change from the Galway races last year to spot that one.

18-06-2008 03:29PM

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

A string of offshore turbines up the west coast could handily produce most or all of our power needs.

About time they got off there backside and started putting these up quick.

seamus · 18-06-2008 03:30PM

Glowing wrote: »

We just put the wash on overnight, hang it out during the the next morning (it rains surprisingly little)

Ah you see, you're assuming that someone has an "out" in which to hang it

Terry · 18-06-2008 03:35PM

Peteee wrote: »

Don't know why anyone is surprised by this price increase.

What did you think the ESB used to power its power stations? Irish charm and baby leprechauns instead of Oil, Gas and Coal.

The one down the road from me uses water.
Irish water too.

Peteee · 18-06-2008 03:37PM

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

The tragedy is that we are absoloutely swimming in power here in this country, quite literally. Ireland is one of the best placed countries in the world to take advantage of wind power. A string of offshore turbines up the west coast could handily produce most or all of our power needs. Of course our political leadership is too busy counting the change from the Galway races last year to spot that one.

While I agree that Wind Power should be increased, You cant run the entire grid off it. You need a steady baseline provided by Nuclear, Oil etc power stations, with renewable energy augmenting these.

The one down the road from me uses water.
Irish water too.

And the other 89% of people who doesn't get the electricity from Hydro electric power in this country?

Degsy · 18-06-2008 03:38PM

I blame the rise in energy consumption squarely on women.They're not content to have teh light on in the room they're in,they have every light in the house switched on.When its "cold" ie less than 30 degrees c,they have all the heaters on,electric blankets,everything.When they turn on the immersion they often forget to turn it back off,sometimes its on for days.When boiling a kettle,it must be filled even if its only for one cup of tea.Then when the kettle boils they ignore it till it goes cold,then they hit the switch to boil it again,and again and again.They love cooking things in the oven..preheated of course and beleive that chickens take up to ten hours to cook.I remember coming home one evening when my ex was upstairs and noticing the red line on the meter moving so fast it was a total blur.It seemed she'd turned everything in the house that was electrical on,lights,cooker,immersion,electric blanket,everything.Its women i tells ya.

Alun · 18-06-2008 03:40PM

seamus wrote: »

Ah you see, you're assuming that someone has an "out" in which to hang it

We (just the 2 of us) don't have, or need, a tumble dryer either. We have a washing machine with a nice high spin speed (1400rpm or so) and the washing comes out practically dry anyway. Only takes a day to dry fully hanging on a rack in the spare bedroom or if needs must, some things such as shirts are dry enough when they come out of the machine that quickly running the iron over them while they're still slightly damp (which makes the job easier anyway) means they're ready to wear the next day.

SimpleSam06 · 18-06-2008 03:45PM

Peteee wrote: »

While I agree that Wind Power should be increased, You cant run the entire grid off it. You need a steady baseline provided by Nuclear, Oil etc power stations, with renewable energy augmenting these.

For most countries you would be dead on right, but recent developments in deep water floating platforms for turbines combined with the much steadier deep water winds you get actually lead to a constant supply of power in the case of Ireland.

Even if that wasn't the case you can use a variety of methods to store wind power in case of slack - for example pumping water up into reservoirs, then letting it come down again when you need it.

18-06-2008 03:46PM

I think children are the biggest wasters of electricity; never turn off lights (& or anything for that matter), leaving doors open, etc.

I'm winning the battle of training them to be more energy efficient, but it takes time.
The tumble dryer is the biggest eater of electricity here, closely followed by the washing machine.

ScumLord · 18-06-2008 03:47PM

Poo power is the way of the future, or biomass/bio-energy as the heads like to call it.

ESB are all con merchants. My last bill few bills where,

€12
€72 owed to me
€50
€30
€250
€120
€90

They're all over the place it's like some one's just making prices up.

I live in a two room apartment. I never use the washing machine, I broke the oven with 2 weeks of moving in. I don't do much cooking there (maybe once a week), I broke the heater, I have 1 tv, 1 clock radio, and a PC (600w with 5.1 speaker set), a fridge and 3 working light bulbs, where the **** do they come up with €250???? They even claimed to be under charging me yet they refund me 3 months later.

**** the modern world, I'm going native..

Glowing · 18-06-2008 03:56PM

seamus wrote: »

Ah you see, you're assuming that someone has an "out" in which to hang it

True. Although I do dry my clothes indoors in the winter!! Ah ha!

You have to admit it IS hilarious when you bring in clothes from the line frozen into a plank shape though ... just thought I'd share.

LadyE · 18-06-2008 04:03PM

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400 every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

:mad::mad::mad:

SheroN · 18-06-2008 04:10PM

LadyE wrote: »

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400 every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

:mad::mad::mad:

In a one bedroom place?

Do you do a lot of metal fabrication or something?

mikemac · 18-06-2008 04:11PM

LadyE wrote: »

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400 every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

:mad::mad::mad:

Got a sauna and steamroom in your place? :pac:

LadyE · 18-06-2008 04:15PM

micmclo wrote: »

Got a sauna and steamroom in your place? :pac:

Fricken wish.:mad:

Glowing · 18-06-2008 04:16PM

LadyE wrote: »

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400 every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

:mad::mad::mad:

what? HOW? Something funny going on there ....

markpb · 18-06-2008 04:16PM

Westwood wrote: »

unbe****inglievable :mad: as if it wasnt expensive already. myself and the girlfriend have really cut corners over the past few months to try and reduce these prices which are always at the €200 mark for two months lecy. whats everyone else avergae bill? I feel ours is very high and we dont abuse it at all....

LadyE wrote: »

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400
every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

You're both being ripped off or doing a whole lot of car manufacturing in your living rooms!

I live in a 2 bed apartment with my gf and mate and our bills during the winter never top 180. During the summer we can easily keep it below 100. That includes all our heating too.

Simple things like switching to night saver so you can boil water, run washing machines and dish washers, charge batteries and laptops saves a fortune.

Degsy wrote: »

I blame the rise in energy consumption squarely on women.They're not content to have teh light on in the room they're in,they have every light in the house switched on.When its "cold" ie less than 30 degrees c,they have all the heaters on,electric blankets,everything.When they turn on the immersion they often forget to turn it back off,sometimes its on for days.When boiling a kettle,it must be filled even if its only for one cup of tea.Then when the kettle boils they ignore it till it goes cold,then they hit the switch to boil it again,and again and again.

It's like you read my mind

kenmc · 18-06-2008 04:18PM

Sounds dodgy all right. I'd suggest plugging EVERYTHING out for a few minutes and look at the meter - if the little red 'train' it's still going around with everything plugged out then it sounds like someone has tapped into your mains and using your electricity. Worth a shot

Keano · 18-06-2008 04:36PM

LadyE wrote: »

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400 every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

:mad::mad::mad:

Did you pay the 2k? :eek:

18-06-2008 04:37PM

LadyE wrote: »

Im fricken sick of the esb. Sick of it. My bills stands at about 400 every two months in a one bedroomed place. All year around. I even got a bill last year of 2k. Apparently they were undercharging me.

:mad::mad::mad:

Check you're not sharing a meter with one of your neighbours (who is getting "free" electricity).

ScumLord · 18-06-2008 04:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Check you're not sharing a meter with one of your neighbours (who is getting "free" electricity).

That happened to someone I know, they lived over a butcher and the butcher had him paying to run the fridges. Yerman spent most his time in the pub so he was quite shocked to see bills of €700 come in.

I thought the same thing might be happening to me as I live over a clothes shop but they showed me bills, there's where up on €700. And the other apartment had bills similar to mine.

Degsy · 18-06-2008 05:00PM

Does anybody here own an electric pottery kiln and if so how much is your bill?

ART6 · 18-06-2008 05:13PM

Degsy wrote: »

I blame the rise in energy consumption squarely on women.They're not content to have teh light on in the room they're in,they have every light in the house switched on.When its "cold" ie less than 30 degrees c,they have all the heaters on,electric blankets,everything.When they turn on the immersion they often forget to turn it back off,sometimes its on for days.When boiling a kettle,it must be filled even if its only for one cup of tea.Then when the kettle boils they ignore it till it goes cold,then they hit the switch to boil it again,and again and again.They love cooking things in the oven..preheated of course and beleive that chickens take up to ten hours to cook.I remember coming home one evening when my ex was upstairs and noticing the red line on the meter moving so fast it was a total blur.It seemed she'd turned everything in the house that was electrical on,lights,cooker,immersion,electric blanket,everything.Its women i tells ya.

Absolutely. My better half loves to have the oil fired central heating and a couple of electric fires on in the winter, then she opens doors and windows because "the house is getting stuffy" Still, looking on the bright side, I am helping people worse off than my by heating half of bl**dy Co. Waterford for them.:o

Glowing · 18-06-2008 05:14PM

Degsy wrote: »

Does anybody here own an electric pottery kiln and if so how much is your bill?

Depends whether or not LadyE is paying your bill

:pac:

Lizzykins · 18-06-2008 06:16PM

My last two bills were 156 euro each. I have no dryer and I rarely use the immersion. I had a look on the ESB website at the energy calculator where you input how many washes you do etc and it will throw out what your bill should be. Not surprisingly tumble dryers and immersions use massive power. My bill could not really be reduced by very much more seeng as I am cooking and washing and ironing for six people. I've resisted getting a tumble dryer for the last couple of years-bit of an eco warrior! I nearly had a nervous breakdown last summer as there was no way to dry clothes outside for months. We had a clothes airer up for months and it was very hard to keep up with the washing.

What annoys me is that electricity is a necessity and ESB should not be a vast profit making enterprise. Same goes for Gas Co. We should all get a reasonable allowance of power at a knockdown rate and if you go over that then you should be penalised because you're obviously wasting it. There is no incentive to save power because it's going to increase in price whatever you do.

ESB looking for an increase of 30%

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