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  • #62
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    Trilla wrote: »
    Report them when Trolling the Man Utd thread. MAybe have a "fair" United supporter(s) modding the United thread as an alternative option

    There already is. PHB.

    Also, in the feedback thread in May, the Admin decided that there was no charges of unfair modding to answer, to any Soccer Mod.

    I accept that decision.


  • #63
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Yes
    Trilla wrote: »
    Report them when Trolling the Man Utd thread. MAybe have a "fair" United supporter(s) modding the United thread as an alternative option

    There is a mod who is a Utd supporter.

    I would also like the "troll" acquisitions to be more founded. Please have a look at the Utd thread and pick 5 posts that you consider to be a troll. If its such a problem it shouldn't be hard to do.


  • #64
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Yes
    DesF wrote: »
    All I can see is that United fans want a place where no other fans are allowed to post, or more to the point, only fans that they WANT to interact with are allowed to post.

    Boards.ie isn't about that.

    Other fan sites are, Red Issue, Red Café. What is wrong with these places? Why do these places not cater to these needs? What would the difference be?

    POST#253 in that thread


    So, allow only United people to post, then cherry pick the others.

    Why are United fans afraid of the main forum? It makes no sense to me. None whatsoever.

    Why should I, as a non-fan of Man Utd have to read about ManYoo related incidents in two, or more parts of Boards.

    I fear for Soccer if this precedent is set, the forum will die, and the sub-forums will become clique-ey and horrible places to post.
    DesF wrote: »
    So get all your sub forum supporters and go and join one of them. Why can't that happen? Why does it HAVE to be on Boards.ie

    The Soccer forum is one of the most successful and well run communities on Boards.ie.

    All I see people wanting is a place where they can get away with calling Liverpool "scum" and not be banned for it.

    Another point raised is that the supporters of this sub forum want a place where they can post "hassle free". Who, or where, is this "hassle" coming from?

    Fans of other teams with opposing views? You want a rose garden where everyone agrees? Why?

    Biased Mods?

    Anit-United feeling? Are you not anti-other teams?

    Seems to me that United fans want a haven away from reality.

    That is already provided for on the internet, the forums are not to my tatse, and I'd hate to see Boards.ie go down this road.

    And I don't believe it will.
    DesF wrote: »
    I didn't say "utd fans" or "utd supporters" once in the post you quoted.

    I'm specifically referring to people who support the notion of sub forums.

    You sure.


  • #65
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    You sure.

    Apologies.

    :o


  • #66
    Chong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    Yes
    Afternoon all.

    I have posted my final thoughts on the Manchester Supporters Club idea in the "forums" forum. Although I will re-iterate what I said there on here and explain my thoughts.

    Firstly I have voted "No" on this poll. Having read PHB´s latest post on the other thread amongst others I feel that the best possible solution here is to repair the current forum and make it a better user experience for everyone. This is firstly down to the mods then the users to help build the community. I know its sounds like a bit odd coming from me as I instigated the debate with the other thread, but at the end of the day if we can allay the problems with the actual soccer forum it will once again become a pleasant experience posting here.

    Fair enough we are still going to have trolls and people we dont like but we need to ignore these people as PHB suggests. Going down the route of many subforums in reality would be ridiculous the more I think of it, if the current forum had a new structure put in place this would be a far better place to post on footie.

    Should we become a better community it will be far easier, I will say that it is very difficult sometimes not to react to certain peoples posts, but thats the way its always going to be , for example Mr Alan use to infuriate sometimes , but now I have grown to like the scally and his posts.

    Anyways thats my thoughts on the whole issue.

    Will


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  • #67
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    There is a mod who is a Utd supporter.

    I would also like the "troll" acquisitions to be more founded. Please have a look at the Utd thread and pick 5 posts that you consider to be a troll. If its such a problem it shouldn't be hard to do.

    No problem, I could pick 10. Have a look back to the CL semi-final thread. A soccer mod trolled the thread for several hours, despite being asked to stop repeatedly. He then banned several users for their reaction to his trollish posts. This was done to death in a feedback thread last month so Im not going into it again.


  • #68
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Yes
    delija_sever029 wrote: »
    Maybe it would be fair to have some pool and vote what subforums we want and clubs with most fans should get a subforum
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=55740770&postcount=1


  • #69
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    No problem, I could pick 10.

    Go on then.

    And at the same time, let us know if you reported the trolling at the time you saw it.

    I think the issue here isn't Sub Forums at all, but a problem with the mods.


  • #70
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Cruijff wrote: »
    Afternoon all.

    I have posted my final thoughts on the Manchester Supporters Club idea in the "forums" forum. Although I will re-iterate what I said there on here and explain my thoughts.

    Firstly I have voted "No" on this poll. Having read PHB´s latest post on the other thread amongst others I feel that the best possible solution here is to repair the current forum and make it a better user experience for everyone. This is firstly down to the mods then the users to help build the community. I know its sounds like a bit odd coming from me as I instigated the debate with the other thread, but at the end of the day if we can allay the problems with the actual soccer forum it will once again become a pleasant experience posting here.

    Fair enough we are still going to have trolls and people we dont like but we need to ignore these people as PHB suggests. Going down the route of many subforums in reality would be ridiculous the more I think of it, if the current forum had a new structure put in place this would be a far better place to post on footie.

    Should we become a better community it will be far easier, I will say that it is very difficult sometimes not to react to certain peoples posts, but thats the way its always going to be , for example Mr Alan use to infuriate sometimes , but now I have grown to like the scally and his posts.

    Anyways thats my thoughts on the whole issue.

    Will


    way to cut the legs from under us mate.....

    You better edit your sig.

    This idea is now as dead as a dodo.


  • #71
    Im_No_Superman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭Im_No_Superman


    Yes
    Trilla wrote: »
    Not all United fans though. I agree with DesF this cant happen
    Same here another Utd fan here saying no, I enjoy possting in the soccer form as it is, sure there will be arguements or whatever but the soccer form would be a very boring place if there wasnt afew clash of opinions. Plus people seem to forget if there is one particular poster that is annoying you or trying to get a rise out of you there is the ignore feature.


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  • #72
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    way to cut the legs from under us mate.....

    You better edit your sig.

    This idea is now as dead as a dodo.
    /sheds a tear


  • #73
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    way to cut the legs from under us mate.....

    Heh, I was just tihnking that.:)


  • #74
    Chong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    Yes
    Its called common sense, and having thought about it now for a while , the only thing we would be doing is cutting the legs from the current forum.


  • #75
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    No problem, I could pick 10. Have a look back to the CL semi-final thread. A soccer mod trolled the thread for several hours, despite being asked to stop repeatedly. He then banned several users for their reaction to his trollish posts. This was done to death in a feedback thread last month so Im not going into it again.

    I'm aware of the feedback thread. Oh and please do show me 10 posts that you think are troll posts rather than valid posts for discussion.

    I thought the problem was with the super-threads?


  • #76
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    DesF wrote: »
    Go on then.

    And at the same time, let us know if you reported the trolling at the time you saw it.

    I think the issue here isn't Sub Forums at all, but a problem with the mods.

    I didn't report it, as what's the point in reporting someone who will be checking those very same reports?

    I have learned my lesson however, and will pm another soccer mod should this happen again.

    If there is a problem with the mods, as you admitted in that thread also, then I think we need to look at increasing the number of soccer mods to dilute the pool a bit , so to speak.


  • #77
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Sherifu wrote: »
    /sheds a tear


    Do you not have cat pictures to be posting somewhere? :rolleyes:


  • #78
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    I didn't report it, as what's the point in reporting someone who will be checking those very same reports?.

    There are 5 or 6 Soccer mods, afaik.

    pvt.joker wrote: »
    If there is a problem with the mods, as you admitted in that thread also,
    Then the Admin came along and said they were happy with the moderation.

    If the owners of the website have no problem with the moderation, what else can be done?

    pvt.joker wrote: »
    then I think we need to look at increasing the number of soccer mods to dilute the pool a bit , so to speak.

    I have already stated that I think the Soccer forum needs more moderators.


  • #79
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    Where are the ten trolls currently on the Man Uts Superthread?


    Come on, name and shame.


  • #80
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    Do you not have cat pictures to be posting somewhere? :rolleyes:
    Not at the moment. I'd rather be here.


  • #81
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,061 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Yes
    Take over the ladies bitching section lounge instead then


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  • #82
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    DesF wrote: »
    Where are the ten trolls currently on the Man Uts Superthread?


    Come on, name and shame.


    I have named and shamed in the feedback thread already. The posts are there for all to see in a thread about Man U's semi final. I have neither the time nor the inclination to look them up. Most of the forum are aware of who made them.


  • #83
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    No problem, I could pick 10.
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to look them up. Most of the forum are aware of who made them.

    :confused::confused:
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    I have named and shamed in the feedback thread already. The posts are there for all to see in a thread about Man U's semi final.

    I don't remember ten trolls being discussed in the feedback thread.


  • #84
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    I have named and shamed in the feedback thread already. The posts are there for all to see in a thread about Man U's semi final. I have neither the time nor the inclination to look them up. Most of the forum are aware of who made them.

    So you will make the claims but wont back them up. Instead you want other people to go and back up your claims. Sorry but FAIL!
    DesF wrote: »
    :confused::confused:



    I don't remember ten trolls being discussed in the feedback thread.

    Neither do I. I remember one mod was accused of trolling because he pointed out the ref made some decisions that went in Utds favour.


  • #85
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yes
    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    Neither do I. I remember one mod was accused of trolling because he pointed out the ref made some decisions that went in Utds favour.

    He pointed it out more than once too, wouldn't let it go, afair.

    Then went on to accuse me of having "cronies", still never got to the bottom of that one.


  • #86
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Said mod made "predictions" before the game, then came gloating back after to claim his "predictions" had come through, and kept it up for hours on end.
    Regarding the 10 posts I claimed, I never said 10 individual trolls, I said 10 posts.


  • #87
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Yes
    DesF wrote: »
    He pointed it out more than once too, wouldn't let it go, afair.

    Then went on to accuse me of having "cronies", still never got to the bottom of that one.

    But the trolling comments came because he wanted to discuss the match while some Utd fans just wanted to "enjoy" the night/victory and not discuss the match which was the purpose of the thread.


  • #88
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,017 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    I support Man U. Why should I find a forum on a different site just for them fans :confused:. I would prefer to discuss it with like minded fans from boards.ie

    Why would sub forums ruin it? Can you provide an example of where something like this has happened on boards.ie before and it's been ruined?

    Has the television forum been ruined by the creation of many sub forums? (answer=no)

    Has the music forum been ruined by the creation of many sub forums?
    (answer=no)

    Has the video games forum been ruined by the creation of many sub forums?
    (answer=no)


    They have thrived, and that is what I believe will happen if teams are given sub forums. I believe it is a very backward way of doing things (one giant forum) and discourages new posters from posting as they are intimidated by the sheer size and scale of superthreads.

    This makes NO sense whatsoever. It would only make sense if this was about a Sport forum being devided into its specific sports.

    Some people will like one type of music, others will like another. Some will like one game, others no interest and prefer another. But this is Football. We're all here because we love Football! If you only have an interest in your team and nothing else, this isnt the place for you imo. Plenty of fan forums out there - this shouldn't be one of them.


  • #89
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Yes
    pvt.joker wrote: »
    Regarding the 10 posts I claimed, I never said 10 individual trolls, I said 10 posts.

    so is he the one troll who frequents the Utd thread then? cause the way you were all going on in the thread requesting the subforum it sounded like the thread was permanently being trolled?

    If he is the one troll, report him, if the mods/admins decide he did nothing wrong, well then you either have to accept that, or find a new site to frequent.


  • #90
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Yes
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    so is he the one troll who frequents the Utd thread then? cause the way you were all going on in the thread requesting the subforum it sounded like the thread was permanently being trolled?

    If he is the one troll, report him, if the mods/admins decide he did nothing wrong, well then you either have to accept that, or find a new site to frequent.

    Or put him on your ignore list.


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  • #91
    pvt.joker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    so is he the one troll who frequents the Utd thread then? .

    You mean apart from you? :pac::D


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