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Use of B.I.F.F.O. in the Media

  • 16-05-2008 8:15pm
    #1
    RATM
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    Since Cowen has ascended to the dizzy heights Ive noticed some print media often refer to him as Biffo. Miriam Lord ( as much as I like her wit ) seems to be one of the main protagonists.

    I know its only a bit of craic but isn't it a bit crass and gutter to be referring to the leader of a country in this way? Id say most ppl took the (B)lair references after the WMD fallout as a fair jab but surely the constant use of the term Biffo in national newspapers is both disrespectful and uncalled for.


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  • #2
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    It's a bit GUBU alright.


  • #3
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    according to france24 its means
    Big Ugly Fella from offaly


  • #4
    flogen
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    agent smith wrote: »
    according to france24 its means
    Big Ugly Fella from offaly

    Wouldn't that be BUFFO?


  • #5
    Agent Smith
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    Whoops, Big Ignorent fella from offaly


  • #6
    DMC
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    RATM wrote: »
    Id say most ppl took the (B)lair references after the WMD fallout as a fair jab but surely the constant use of the term Biffo in national newspapers is both disrespectful and uncalled for.

    You're not from Offaly yerself? Just curious if you have a vested interest in the term :)

    Victor Lewis Smith christened the former British PM Tony B. Liar in the Evening Standard, and never let up.

    The Phoenix had Squire Hockey, Luscious Liz, etc.

    Nicknames can be part of the game, tbh.

    If Biffo, ahem *cough* the Taoiseach or his press secretary were to tap on the editor's shoulder, I'm sure it would cool off with an edict sent to all the hacks.

    He has thick skin, so I wouldn't have thought it worries him.


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  • #7
    monument
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    I've always enjoyed Pat Leahy's use of 'the Bert'.


  • #8
    flogen
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    DMC wrote: »
    You're not from Offaly yerself? Just curious if you have a vested interest in the term :)

    Victor Lewis Smith christened the former British PM Tony B. Liar in the Evening Standard, and never let up.

    The Phoenix had Squire Hockey, Luscious Liz, etc.

    Nicknames can be part of the game, tbh.

    If Biffo, ahem *cough* the Taoiseach or his press secretary were to tap on the editor's shoulder, I'm sure it would cool off with an edict sent to all the hacks.

    He has thick skin, so I wouldn't have thought it worries him.

    True, although in fairness Big Ignorant Fúcker From Offaly is a bit harsher than most nicknames given to politicians; they usually have an affectionate edge to them.

    That said, I don't think people are actually calling him a B.I.F.F.O., and usually just type it as Biffo. To some degree it's become a bit of a pseudo-acronym and no longer means what it used to mean... perhaps to some degree it has an edge of affection to it now even if it wasn't supposed to in the first place.


  • #9
    Overdraft
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    I suggest you all lighten up. :)


  • #10
    GerardKeating
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    flogen wrote: »
    Wouldn't that be BUFFO?

    Not if you pronounce it with an offally accent. :D


  • #11
    DMC
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    flogen wrote: »
    To some degree it's become a bit of a pseudo-acronym and no longer means what it used to mean... perhaps to some degree it has an edge of affection to it now even if it wasn't supposed to in the first place.

    Spot on. People who don't know what B.I.F.F.O. stands for might think Biffo is a "circus/comic book character" type of nickname... (Biffo, hard as nails, likes a fight, can put one up etc.)

    Also, the use of TLA's and ETLA's over the years has changed. For example I can remember a time that RTÉ or BBC would appear in the newspaper as R.T.E. or B.B.C. or E.S.B. I dunno what promoted the change, I suppose the on-screen identity of the channels never had full stops.


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  • #12
    gordon_gekko
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    i see nothing wrong with it , i would use the same name to describe almost anyone ive ever met from the midlands and of course offaly too


  • #13
    jdivision
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    It's his nickname, been that for years. no big deal


  • #14
    constitutionus
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    jdivision wrote: »
    It's his nickname, been that for years. no big deal

    thats my feeling too.

    i didnt even know it WAS an acronym till this year. i thought it referenced his style of leadership in his depts. i.e confrontational. sorta like a 60's batman reference.

    still its fun explaining it to foreigners now i know :)


  • #15
    Gobán Saor
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    Personally, I prefer the term BUFFALO -

    a Big Ugly Fella From Around Laois and Offaly


  • #16
    silvine
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    Why is he really called Biffo though?


  • #17
    Darby
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭Darby


    There's posters up around Offaly which read ' Beautiful Intelligent Folk From Offaly'. I'm from Offaly and so sick of hearing the BIFFO slang. I get the funny side but it's so old.


  • #18
    monument
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    silvine wrote: »
    Why is he really called Biffo though?

    Because there is... err... a perception that his is indeed an ignorant fella, he is big, and he is from Offaly. So, that would be - as posted above - big ignorant fella from Offaly (ie BIFFO).


  • #19
    dresden8
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    It's about time the media in this country stopped treating them with deference and started doing the whole investigative, we'll chase these corrupt ****ers down thing that the media in other countries do.


  • #20
    silvine
    Registered Users Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Our politicians aren't corrupt. They just know a winning horse when they see one.


  • #21
    gordon_gekko
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    Gobán Saor wrote: »
    Personally, I prefer the term BUFFALO -

    a Big Ugly Fella From Around Laois and Offaly

    me too , would be great if they could find a word to describe anyone from carlow or longford an westmeath aswell, anyone ive ever met from those places have been shall we say a little on the surly side, plus people from the midlands speak with a traveller accent too


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  • #22
    Snickers Man
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    DMC wrote: »

    Nicknames can be part of the game, tbh.

    True. Look at British former Lib Dem leader Jeremy Ashdown. He was only ever known by his nickname.

    In fact, a lot of people probably don't know WTF Jeremy Ashdown is.


  • #23
    brown-dog
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    I only heard that BIFFO name a few days ago - my friend from Offaly was calling her dad it and didnt get it. Very funny


  • #24
    h8red
    Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭h8red


    gordon_gekko wrote: »
    plus people from the midlands speak with a traveller accent too

    You type like a traveller.


  • #25
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Jesus lads - this is a relatively light-hearted thread (albeit with a relatively serious core query); don't have me lock it just because you can't resist throwing mud at each other and getting into the whole "your county is crap", "oh yeah? Well so are you" thing.


  • #26
    dee8839
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    We affectionally refer to one friend in college as Biffo to the point where when someone talks about him by his actual name it takes a minute for the connection to be made!! Some people never even realised what Biffo actually denotes, since they thought it was bloomin hilarious when our "Biffo" became Taoiseach, thinking it was merely a funny nickname coincidence!! ;):D

    I'm proud of Brian Cowen, he's had a rough start as Taoiseach but he's at least trying to weather the storm, and I use Biffo as an affectionate term in reference to him too. Chillax!


  • #27
    bookiebasher
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    me too , would be great if they could find a word to describe anyone from carlow or longford an westmeath aswell, anyone ive ever met from those places have been shall we say a little on the surly side, plus people from the midlands speak with a traveller accent too
    gordon_gekko is offline Report Post Reply With Quote


    jesus and i got banned from politics for a month ..harmless compared to some of this crap


  • #28
    megafan
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭megafan


    dee8839 wrote: »
    We affectionally refer to one friend in college as Biffo to the point where when someone talks about him by his actual name it takes a minute for the connection to be made!! Some people never even realised what Biffo actually denotes, since they thought it was bloomin hilarious when our "Biffo" became Taoiseach, thinking it was merely a funny nickname coincidence!! ;):D

    I'm proud of Brian Cowen, he's had a rough start as Taoiseach but he's at least trying to weather the storm, and I use Biffo as an affectionate term in reference to him too. Chillax!

    Reading old post... How things change.. Wonder what the responses to BIFFO would read as now Feb 2011??? Don't think "AFFECTIONATE" would be used in comments??


  • #29
    MinnyMinor
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    monument wrote: »
    Because there is... err... a perception that his is indeed an ignorant fella, he is big, and he is from Offaly. So, that would be - as posted above - big ignorant fella from Offaly (ie BIFFO).
    fella? not how i heard it.........


  • #30
    Esel
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    gordon_gekko wrote: »
    ...people from the midlands speak with a traveller accent too
    They are Caravan Utilising Nomadic TravellerS then.

    Not your ornery onager



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