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Internet as we use it to end by 2012 with the closure of most websites?

  • 03-06-2008 07:41PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭


    http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality


    What do you think of their theory? Will we have to pay to access a select number of sites eventually? This could mean a drastic reduction in websites and the numbers that use the web. Or maybe they are just talking nonsense - I dont know. Basically they say companies are increasingly looking for an end to 'net neutrality' where we will have to buy the rights to enter all websites in the future like digital tv movie channels for example. Seems a bit suicidal for the internet if you ask me. Maybe it will never happen?

    Almost all smaller websites/services will disappear over time and multinationals who are used to using big budgets to brute force their content into every media outlet will finally be able to approach the internet in the same way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Indeed it could happen if the ISPs think there is money to be made that way. Fortunately there's lot of providers so as long as they compete we should be safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    I have no doubt that many ISPs are trying to bring about such an arrangement but the truth is only a handful of companies have been able to make money out of the internet (I mean websites) so I just can't see how an ISP (or ISPs) could bring this about. Not impossible, just highly unlikely I would say, and definitely not by 2012.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    It will be down to policing, with a Euro YES vote for Lisbon we can expect a strict Euro / Global internet police force that will be able to monitor and raid any out of line websites despite on how they try to hide their ISP or IP address. In future all web sites may have to be registered to some international ISO standard to filter out bogus and spam sites .

    This international police force will operate under the "fight against terror" campaign. Illegal porn and torrent sites will be classified as "funding international terrorism" and anyone caught downloading the latest unreleased MP3 or Movie will be convicted of being an accessory to global terrorism. Ireland will have little say in global internet policing and will have to conform to its rules. There is already servers that can automatically pick out buzz words from any blog, email or text message, such words would include Bomb, 747, heathrow, Bush, gun, bin laden, Whitehouse, area 51 etc etc.

    I have already heard of several anti Bush campaigners being refused permission by the FBI to enter the United States from evidence taken from web sites.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It will be down to policing, with a Euro YES vote for Lisbon we can expect a strict Euro / Global internet police force that will be able to monitor and raid any out of line websites despite on how they try to hide their ISP or IP address.

    This international police force will operate under the "fight against terror" campaign. Illegal porn and torrent sites will be classified as "funding international terrorism" and anyone caught downloading the latest unreleased MP3 or Movie will be convicted of being an accessory to global terrorism. Ireland will have little say in internet policing. There is already servers that can automatically pick out buzz words from any blog, email or text message, such words would include Bomb, 747, heathrow, Bush, gun, Whitehouse, area 51 etc etc.

    Damn. I just sent a txt about how I saw a 747 landing at heathrow airport from a Bush and its engine sounded like a large gun and how the Whitehouse would look nicer yellow and moved to area 51.

    I'm fooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I'm fooked.
    Stay where you are, we'll be there soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Ah, The Lisbon Treaty, is there anything it can't do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    I remember reading an article about 7 years ago saying that free-to-access websites were on the way out and we'd all have to pay for decent web content. It didn't happen then and I doubt it ever will, especially these days when anyone can contribute to popular sites like Wikipedia. There will always be pay-to-access sites but their free equivalents will always exist and always be more popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    that'll never happen!! no one will pay cos we've had it for free for so long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Enthusiasts could just run their own version of the current internet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    that'll never happen!! no one will pay cos we've had it for free for so long

    Two words, Bottled Water;)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Wouldn't every ISP in the world have to get on line for this to happen though? I don't really get it...either way, theres no way in hell the internet population (or whatever) will stand for pay per access, there are ways around things, there are always ways around.

    I heard yesterday that everytime someone votes yes for lisbon god will strangle a dolphin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I would hope that people vote with their feet and mass boycott the whole thing if it came to pass. If it is the case that the internet will be privatized its absolutely ridiculous. Corporations have been involved in so much crap, basically exploitation and now this?! Fck them, there has to be a mass revolt. This kind of society where profit margins take precedence over people, over everything in general is b0llocks.

    How does this make sense, basically all it will take is as the dude said, one provider to offer free access and then way more people are going to use it and see crappy advertisements anyway thereby making more money for all parties involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    not a hope in hell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Not to fear, I've already started work on my own intarwebz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    The vid does seem like a spoof though, especially when it randomly cuts to the shot of the chick with big tits and the fact that the address ends in lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,652 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    kerash wrote: »
    Two words, Bottled Water;)

    Two more words: Tap water;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Not a hope in hell this will ever happen.
    Teh Internetz is the last bastion of hope in an increasingly bureaucratic
    and politically correct world. //sheds a tear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,389 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    this will never happen,never ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    the vid is a total hoax


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 SonicYouth808


    Damn. I just sent a txt about how I saw a 747 landing at heathrow airport from a Bush and its engine sounded like a large gun and how the Whitehouse would look nicer yellow and moved to area 51.

    I'm fooked.

    making light of the possibly non-existant situation.I like it

    however its a very possible situation in a certain scenario.For example if another international terrorism crises were to happen with the right leaders in place a security lockdown involving communications screening and trial-less incarceration like happens to a lesser extent in the U.S could very likely happen.

    But personally i think that there are such worse things we face than no internet by 2012.If global warming continues the way it does we might not have half as much potable water as we do now by 2020


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭Gegerty


    World Wide Web <> (does not equal) The Internet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭'Ol Jack Chance


    If global warming continues the way it does we might not have half as much potable water as we do now by 2020

    everyone knows global warming is a communist lie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    Just call Chloe O'Brien


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    ehh it'll happen in 2012 isn't teh world gonna end then anyway so whats to worry about


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I'm downloading *.* from the internet to an external drive now. *Peeks at title bar* Could take a while.

    Link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well if Jim Corr is right the interweb is watching us in our rooms already so I'm leaving and so will not be paying for anything - not even girl/girl akhsun!

    Mike.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MarkR wrote: »
    I'm downloading *.* from the internet to an external drive now. *Peeks at title bar* Could take a while.

    Link

    Quick! You've insufficient memory on C:\. You have to insert a disc into A:\!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    This is more of that anti-net neutrality crap. Get this:
    1. Companies laid down network pipes with massive government assistance (ie taxpayer funded).
    2. They charge you for your connection, fair enough.
    3. They charge hosting companies for their connection, also fair enough.
    4. Now they see that popular websites are getting loads of cash, so they want to charge them more money for high speed access, although they already pay for high speed access. Charge the website owners and content creators because they made good stuff that people want to use.

    Greed, stupidity, ignorance, gah. Die already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    It'll never happen.

    Would love to see them try though and have millions of DDos attacks occur on the same day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Ah, The Lisbon Treaty, is there anything it can't do?

    you won't get away with comments like that when the lisbon treaty passes. you'll hear a rustling behind you and then all of a sudden the treaty will be stangling you for your insolence


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