Biggest Waste of Taxpayers Money..?

30-05-2008 12:27AM

The HSE has to be the biggest waste of money in the history of the state. There isn't a day that goes by without hearing about a new scandal/screw up. Considering the amount of money pumped into it, it's ridiculous how bad it is.

Peteee · 30-05-2008 12:49AM

Sofaspud wrote: »

And not directly our tax money, but there's a ridiculous amount spent on the space program. We should fix our own bloody planet before trying to find out if other planets are better than it.

How much exactly do you think the US spends on their space program?

Its .6% of the entire US Govt. budget annually.

2Scoops · 30-05-2008 12:53AM

Maybe this is just a misconception, but doesn't the government have to donate 1% or something of the GNP to artists, regardless of quality? There's some pretty awful government-funded art out there...

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 30-05-2008 01:07AM

2Scoops wrote: »

Maybe this is just a misconception, but doesn't the government have to donate 1% or something of the GNP to artists, regardless of quality? There's some pretty awful government-funded art out there...

I think that's an unavoidable waste however if the government want to foster Irish art. It's hard to vet quality of an unknown artist because no one has seen their work!

Kernel · 30-05-2008 03:37AM

Romas (not Romanians). They contribute nothing, sponge off the state for everything (housing, schooling, medical, social welfare), involved in crime, get free legal aid (costing taxpayer money), free interpreters (costing taxpayer money) and maybe deported (costing taxpayer money). Huge waste.

sdanseo · 30-05-2008 05:30AM

The Dublin 'orbital routes', and in fact most of our road transport system. Why, just why?

Imagine you are a tourist. You rent a car at Dublin Airport. You're unfamiliar with Ireland having never been here before and are expecting a perfect road network between here and your destination. If from America, you won't know what the gearstick does let alone be worried about a map etc. You drive out of the airport to be confronted with a sign a few miles down saying "J76 N1 N2 N3 <- | N4 N5 N6 N7 ->" or the like. Lord help you.

So say you decide to take the rental car to the West. You fight your way through the apocalyptic traffic as far as the M50 where, after briefly considering turning around and booking the first available plane back home, you hit the N4. Finally, a decent road. You get as far as Kinnegad and then, and only then, do you see a sign telling to DRIVE ON THE LEFT

(true story).

Enough ranting. You get my point. Sack the DTO/DTA whatever it is and let leprechauns direct the traffic. God knows they'd do a better job.

BraziliaNZ · 30-05-2008 06:01AM

caoibhin wrote: »

Beat me to it.

Lazy w*nkers, all of them.

That's a stupid statement. I was a civil servant before I left Ireland for 3 years, and I worked my ass off there especially in the last year and a half or so. More work done there than I've done anywhere else. But I do agree that there are some total wasters being employed. My department on the other hand were working our asses off, so don't generalise.

ART6 · 30-05-2008 06:40AM

Why all these attacks on the Dublin spire? When CERN turn on the Large Hadron Collider (as referred to in other threads) the Large Hadrons may well take offence at being forced to collide, and might just decide to attack us. When they try to land in Dublin the spire will stick 'em up the ass and save us all.:D

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 06:51AM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

That's a stupid statement. I was a civil servant before I left Ireland for 3 years, and I worked my ass off there especially in the last year and a half or so. More work done there than I've done anywhere else. But I do agree that there are some total wasters being employed. My department on the other hand were working our asses off, so don't generalise.

Sorry, 99.99% of civil/public servants are lazy wa*kers.

javaboy · 30-05-2008 07:45AM

ART6 wrote: »

Why all these attacks on the Dublin spire? When CERN turn on the Large Hadron Collider (as referred to in other threads) the Large Hadrons may well take offence at being forced to collide, and might just decide to attack us. When they try to land in Dublin the spire will stick 'em up the ass and save us all.:D

But is it a (Large Hadron) Collider or a Large (Hadron Collider). I thought Hadrons were small and this was a big machine which was going to smash lots of them together.

BraziliaNZ · 30-05-2008 07:49AM

caoibhin wrote: »

Sorry, 99.99% of civil/public servants are lazy wa*kers.

and how do you know this exactly?

John Mason · 30-05-2008 09:43AM

that what to do in an emergancy hand book - wtf

and all those Vote Yes to Lisbon posters - feck off and tell that it is all about in plain english

Steve_o · 30-05-2008 09:51AM

Peteee wrote: »

How much exactly do you think the US spends on their space program?

Its .6% of the entire US Govt. budget annually.

The US is waaaay bigger tho, with alot more money... .6% of the US budget taken out of the Irish budget would be a big chunk!

Steve_o · 30-05-2008 09:51AM

irishbird wrote: »

that what to do in an emergancy hand book - wtf

and all those Vote Yes to Lisbon posters - feck off and tell that it is all about in plain english

+1

ART6 · 30-05-2008 03:37PM

javaboy wrote: »

But is it a (Large Hadron) Collider or a Large (Hadron Collider). I thought Hadrons were small and this was a big machine which was going to smash lots of them together.

Dunno boy, never having met either a small one or a large one, but if they are indeed small then their grown up parents might object to them being smashed together and decide to invade to teach us a lesson. Either way my point stands, as does that of the Dublin spire (drops the poitin jar and falls asleep).

billymitchell · 30-05-2008 04:23PM

snyper wrote: »

most public service eployees.

Lazyness.. they get away with not doing a tap.

Private sector workers cant do the same degrees of nothing and get away with it

+1

chuci · 30-05-2008 04:35PM

the HSE as someone who works in a hospital i have no idea where its going the mistakes are horrendous.
professor. brendan drumm- they should employ people who work on the ground and are know where money needs to be spent. rather than some eejit it just makes my blood boil.
tribunals argh why the need for so much money to be spent?
giving themselves a nice high pay rise which is more than half of what normal people get p/a.
42 days of holidays at xmas or whatever it is why why why?if they werent so lazy then the country might run better.

LouOB · 30-05-2008 04:42PM

Ohhhhh
1. Health service. full stop
2. M50 - come on the f*uk I could plan a project better
3. Junkies with babies - need i say more
4. Gardai walking by said junkies - wtf are we paying them for - no really what?
5. Buses with no people in them
6. Trains with people fainting in them
7. Government depts that have no function or role - Road Safety Authority
8. Government buildings in the most expensive areas of Dublin - sell the f*cking bulding and use the money for people on beds in the halls - COME ON....
9. Politicions that speak lots and say F*CK ALL
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

thats all for now

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 04:55PM

chuci wrote: »

the HSE as someone who works in a hospital i have no idea where its going the mistakes are horrendous.
professor. brendan drumm- they should employ people who work on the ground and are know where money needs to be spent. rather than some eejit it just makes my blood boil.
tribunals argh why the need for so much money to be spent?
giving themselves a nice high pay rise which is more than half of what normal people get p/a.
42 days of holidays at xmas or whatever it is why why why?if they werent so lazy then the country might run better.

You drinking already too?

ART6 · 30-05-2008 05:20PM

LouOB wrote: »

Ohhhhh
1. Health service. full stop
2. M50 - come on the f*uk I could plan a project better
3. Junkies with babies - need i say more
4. Gardai walking by said junkies - wtf are we paying them for - no really what?
5. Buses with no people in them
6. Trains with people fainting in them
7. Government depts that have no function or role - Road Safety Authority
8. Government buildings in the most expensive areas of Dublin - sell the f*cking bulding and use the money for people on beds in the halls - COME ON....
9. Politicions that speak lots and say F*CK ALL
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

thats all for now

Add to that the 400 odd Quangos that FF & Co have dreamed up over the years, each with a budget that would feed half the world's starving. Another way of looking at it might be that the biggest waste of taxpayer's money is politicans:(

Capt'n Midnight · 30-05-2008 07:12PM

chuci wrote: »

tribunals argh why the need for so much money to be spent?

tribunals have raised far money from people who have been force to pay tax

the waste of money was to not give tribunals power to imprison people for corruption / blatent tax evasion

another big waste was all the tax amnesties - there should only have been one with the understanding that any major evasion after it would result in serious penalties, instead people have gotten away with it many times :mad:

Kernel · 30-05-2008 07:18PM

LouOB wrote: »

Ohhhhh
3. Junkies with babies - need i say more
4. Gardai walking by said junkies - wtf are we paying them for - no really what?

You need a licence for a gun or a television in this country, but you don't need a licence to have a kid. It is a waste of life and opportunity as well as money, what do you propose Gardaí do? Arrest the junkie mothers for?? End up in the high court for habeus corpus and cost the taxpayers more money?

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 07:23PM

Kernel wrote: »

You need a licence for a gun or a television in this country, but you don't need a licence to have a kid. It is a waste of life and opportunity as well as money, what do you propose Gardaí do? Arrest the junkie mothers for?? End up in the high court for habeus corpus and cost the taxpayers more money?

See and they said I was mad when i demanded the sterilization of those with an IQ under 90.

DingDong · 30-05-2008 07:25PM

Mary Harney!

Kernel · 30-05-2008 07:31PM

caoibhin wrote: »

See and they said I was mad when i demanded the sterilization of those with an IQ under 90.

I'm kinda in favour of some kind of population control tbh. Problem would be that the system of restriction could be abused. Maybe just increasing the social services powers to take children into care. Some people are not fit to have children tbh, or do a piss-poor job to the detriment of the State.

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 07:40PM

Kernel wrote: »

I'm kinda in favour of some kind of population control tbh. Problem would be that the system of restriction could be abused. Maybe just increasing the social services powers to take children into care. Some people are not fit to have children tbh, or do a piss-poor job to the detriment of the State.

Fact;
Stupid and poor people are attracted to other pyjama wearing poor and stupid people. The breeding pair of s&p people have a X12 more stupid offspring, thus the circle of pond life continues.

gamer · 30-05-2008 08:02PM

the senate ,a talking shop with no powers, for politicians to get large salarys and pensions.
THE NEW junior ministers ,have we not enough politicians already.TG4 a station 4 like 3percent of the population who speak irish ,id say the programs in irish have a small audience ,most of the non irish programs are shown on other stations anyway.The pfi programs private funding built schools are a disaster ,ie they cost the state more than state built schools to run ,makes no economic sense ,
build a school ,with sports hall etc it can be used for community activity s meetings etc.THE money could be borrowed from the national pension fund.

kowloon · 30-05-2008 08:54PM

Jemmy wrote: »

I dont agree,the irish language should be kept alive and it is still spoken just not up around you city boys.

The dual language policy is a bit stupid though, we need to decide what language we speak and stick to it. Translating all EU documents and the like into Irish only to have nobody read them because the English docs are available is a tad retarded IMO. Dsagree on TG4 though, quite a lot of people watch it and it isn't all Irish, a good channel.

Poor = Stupid = cnut logic