Another Car Sales Person Let Go

johnf2020 wrote: »

Well I got the door last Thursday/Friday

Boss called me in---Are you bored---bored,,,of course not. I flat out busy selling to all the people that are not coming in the door..Highly motivated!!!not.

Well your not doing the numbers--your head is somewhere else!!!!

My head is wondering where all the customers are gone!!!!

Your Numbers do not justify your salary..!!

Your business is going down the tubes so sack me and use the numbers line so you wont have to pay me redundancy!!!!!

I'll expect your answer by Friday.

I'm staying as of Friday.



Your out.

Sorry to hear about your troubles OP. I wouldn't wish to be in the motor trade at this moment in time. Sales in February, March and April are down around 20% compared to the same periods last year. This month will probably be even worse in terms of sales declines, and next month will be a December 6 moths earlier than usual.

July should be a good month, especially for anyone who is trying to sell cars that do well under the new VRT scheme.

It was a serious mistake by the Government to delay the new system until July.

If they had any brains they would have announced this last July and brought in the new system to start at the start of this year.

All the problems about sales and getting rid of bad stock would have been nullified and instead of people buying cars that dealers are so desperately trying to flog, we could have started this year without any of these problems and people would be able to buy the more CO2 friendly cars since the start of the year too, further reducing our carbon footprint.

grahambo wrote: »

So BMW are saying... but don't forget even though the price of BMW's will drop with the new tax and VRT system they will still be relatively expensive to buy and expensive run (IE Tyres, Service etc) and if anything goes wrong with them like all high end cars they are mega bucks to fix

Also the economy isn't what its was 2 years ago I really cant see people running to spend €30k+ on an eco car. and also bare in mind even though you are buying a BMW... its an eco BMW with a small engine. that wouldn't pull the knickers off a brazzer. and as soon as you start going up in power the saving will disappear.

And the least powerful 3 series has 143 bhp(as the 316i is no more). The least powerful A4 has 120, and the least powerful C-class has 122.

BMW parts are not cheap but I don't think Audi/Merc etc are cheap for parts either.

There are plenty of BMW specialists out there that i'm sure will do a good job on servicing BMWs for only a fraction of the price of a main BMW garage.

There WILL be a lot more BMWs out there after July...€46k for a new 520d? What a bargain of a car, you get 177 bhp, 0-100 in 8.3, top speed of 230 km/h, average fuel of 55.4 mpg, €150 road tax a year and things like auto dimming rear view mirror, parking sensors, rain sensing wipers and part electric front seats all as standard!

My old man who is normally a devout Toyota buyer and was planning to change his Toyota for yet another Toyota at the end of the year was so impressed by the new found value of BMW that he's after buying a new 520d in July too!

If you think there are a lot of 520ds out there at the moment you ain't seen nothing yet folks!

And the 3 series will also represent a huge increase in value for money...€36.4k for a base petrol 3 series, €26,540 for a base petrol Avensis and you're getting 143 rather than 110 bhp, alloys, rear electric windows, fog lights, lower road tax(€290 rather than €600) 10 mpg better fuel consumption officially etc etc. At the moment the comparable cars are €25,440 for the Toyota and €40,650 for the BMW, and the Toyota is €428 on road tax and the BMW is €590 on road tax. And not just BMW. Audi's A3 and A4 will be a significantly better prospect to buy after July as well, because they are as good as BMW for the tax and emissions thing.

Thus far BMW have sold about 1000 cars less than over the same period last year. Once July comes you can be sure that BMW will regain all those sales lost, and possibly may sell more cars than last year.

Heres a suggestion John,

Play the import game from the UK for the next 6 months, see if that can tide you over. One man operation and all that.

Things might pick up in a year and you could have a shot at a job then.

And make sure to pressure your boss and argue for redundancy.

Ladies, I was only responding to grahambo who made claims about BMW that are best described as highly inaccurate.

Sorry that 3 letters get you all uppety, this is a car forum after all.

How come nobody questioned what richie rvf said in defence of BMW? Or is it because I have a user name that refers to a BMW product that you all see that as an easy opportunity to have a go at me?

I can play that game too if you like.

On a personal note I forgot to say in my previous post which has now been edited that I'm sorry for those people who are losing their jobs, so I do apologise for ignoring this. I stand by everything else I said though, and I will not be changing anything else I said.

I don't blame them, I blame the government for only announcing the VRT changes in December and putting them in place only from July. If the Government had brains they would have announced the new system last July and imiplemented it from January of this year.

If you re-read my post you will see that I said the following, which i'll quote(again) as evidently there are people here that like me need to wear glasses:

E92 wrote:

I wouldn't wish to be in the motor trade at this moment in time. Sales in February, March and April are down around 20% compared to the same periods last year. This month will probably be even worse in terms of sales declines, and next month will be a December 6 moths earlier than usual.

July should be a good month, especially for anyone who is trying to sell cars that do well under the new VRT scheme.

It was a serious mistake by the Government to delay the new system until July.

If they had any brains they would have announced this last July and brought in the new system to start at the start of this year.

All the problems about sales and getting rid of bad stock would have been nullified and instead of people buying cars that dealers are so desperately trying to flog, we could have started this year without any of these problems and people would be able to buy the more CO2 friendly cars since the start of the year too, further reducing our carbon footprint.

Phaetonman wrote: »

Not for all eternity though. If you want to change career then go for it but there is still life in the car industry in Ireland, just right now.

The car industry is in serious trouble. Sales for new cars are on the floor, used cars aren't shifting, some cars have been on dealers' forecourts since the start of the year.

All the people importing from the UK isn't helping matters, as it makes Irish cars worth even less and even harder for dealers to flog.

There will be a lot more salesmen losing their jobs if things don't improve after July I'm afraid, and worst of all it's not their fault at all. They're the fall guys for others....

For salesmen's and everyone's sakes, I really hope there is a boost in car sales once July is here. There is only 5 weeks and 1 day to go to d-day now.

Unfortunately we're only getting July prices now, we only got July prices for VW, Alfa and Lexus in the past few days, all the rest still haven't told us bar a certain Germany car maker:D), and usually it's a 3 month period between ordering and delivering, so it's nearly a case of too little too late.

I'd say car sales won't pick up till July at the earliest, and car makers would want to hurry up with their July prices if they are going to have any hope. I really don't see things improving till January next year unfortunately.

There's not a lot salesmen can do without proper pricing.

Would you commit to provisional prices?

Hellrazer wrote: »

I blame the Greens-them and their hippie policies--theyve killed the motor trade and I can see something similar in the next budget to kill next years sales--they want us all on bicycles.

Roll on the next general election when they`ll be the next PDs

Blame FF too. FF changed VRT, the Greens changed motor tax. FF can pick and choose who they want. The Greeens are their current fall guy, like the PDs were before the last election. the only way to change this is to replace them with a Government led by someone else.

Either way I'm a believer in collective responsibility. All the Ministers have to agree on something at cabinet, so they're all equally guilty by association.