Chelsea - Grant + Rijkaard = Messi?

armour87 · 25-05-2008 07:08PM #1

Oh please god yes. Best player in the world at the minute.

delija_sever029 · 25-05-2008 07:09PM

I doubt even Rijkaard come to Chelsea that will have anything with Messi...

Little-Devil · 25-05-2008 07:11PM

armour87 wrote: »

Oh please god yes. Best player in the world at the minute.

Not a chance Messi will sign for Chelski. Why would he leave one of biggest clubs in the world for a small london club?

armour87 · 25-05-2008 07:14PM

I know the chances are slim of Messi coming, but definetly not of Rijkaard. Ten Cate has worked with him before.

I can recall a few Barca players saying negative things about Chelsea and their football when we played them in the CL but there is always a chance.

edit: small London club? Your funny.

KdjaCL · 25-05-2008 07:16PM

Little-Devil wrote: »

Not a chance Messi will sign for Chelski. Why would he leave one of biggest clubs in the world for a small london club?

Unlikley but a bid of 100 odd million would be considered, barca need the wonga.

kdjac

Little-Devil · 25-05-2008 07:18PM

armour87 wrote: »

edit: small London club? Your funny.

I'd put Arsenal & Tottenham ahead of chelsea, still you can dream :rolleyes:

eZe^ · 25-05-2008 07:27PM

Take Rijkaard and be happy with that alright... Barca already made enough mistakes letting go of Ronaldo and Figo, it won't happen again...

Unearthly · 25-05-2008 07:29PM

2+2=5

kmart6 · 25-05-2008 07:30PM

It would be a messy situation if Rijkaard gets the job alright!

CHD · 25-05-2008 08:24PM

Little-Devil wrote: »

I'd put Arsenal & Tottenham ahead of chelsea, still you can dream :rolleyes:

Chelsea will just continue being the better team

Bubs101 · 25-05-2008 08:35PM

What is Messi's release clause actually?

davyjose · 25-05-2008 08:48PM

armour87 wrote: »

Oh please god yes. Best player in the world at the minute.

42 goals? Premier league and CL double?

You mean 2nd best player? It's funny how Chelsea have trouble with the word 2nd??? That's surprising

mike65 · 25-05-2008 08:49PM

Messi - another brilliant youngster who would be crushed by Romans messing about.

Mike.

~Rebel~ · 25-05-2008 08:51PM

Bubs101 wrote: »

What is Messi's release clause actually?

just did a quick check there and found this

The 19-year-old Argentine sensation is under contract to Barcelona until 2011 and has a release clause of over £100m in his deal but is thought to be unhappy with his current wages.

http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=160250

Sounds about right anyway, if even maybe too low. The massive clubs major superstars have ridiculous clauses as the clubs have no intentions of them being met, but by law they have to include them in Spain (i think!) so just make them astronomical.

ShaneU · 25-05-2008 08:52PM

Bubs101 wrote: »

What is Messi's release clause actually?

It's over £100m

kmart6 · 25-05-2008 08:53PM

mike65 wrote: »

Messi - another brilliant youngster who would be crushed by Romans messing about.

Mike.

+1 on that one Mike!

vincenzo1975 · 25-05-2008 11:30PM

How can chelsea be linked with such top names when they dont even have a manager yet. surely the new man will want to get the right players and not just superstars. Anyway, Barcelona have invested too much in messi already, he is one player they will never let go simply for money, it will only be if Messi feels that he is no longer welcome. Not every player is a mercenary.

Also, why would he sign for a club that treats its managers so badly, each year a new coach. They are as bad as Shinawatra at man City.

eZe^ · 25-05-2008 11:34PM

Roman Abramovich's dream team;

Kaka

--Alves

Xavi

Fabregas---Ronaldo--

Robinho

--Messi

Toni

Torres----Villa

Etoo

Bench: Sneijder, Aguero, Adebayor, Robben

It'll happen lads, and it'll only cost him a billion or so....

kmart6 · 25-05-2008 11:45PM

eZe^ wrote: »

Roman Abramovich's dream team;

Kaka

--Alves
Xavi
Fabregas---Ronaldo--
Robinho

--Messi
Toni
Torres----Villa
Etoo

Bench: Sneijder, Aguero, Adebayor, Robben

It'll happen lads, and it'll only cost him a billion or so....

Where's the attacking presence there?!

eZe^ · 25-05-2008 11:47PM

kmart6 wrote: »

Where's the attacking presence there?!

Em, they could bring Buffon up from the B team?

kmart6 · 25-05-2008 11:47PM

vincenzo1975 wrote: »

They are as bad as Shinawatra at man City.

Where's Xavi?!:P

themont85 · 26-05-2008 12:05AM

Was it your man Tate that Graham Hunter said Riijard and him didn't like each other? Anyway Chelsea don't deserve a great player like Messi the way they do business.

armour87 · 26-05-2008 12:07AM

Typical. Another Chelsea based transfer speculation thread turns into Abramobashing as usual.

I was merely making the assumption / hoping that in the likely event Frank Rijkaard takes the Chelsea job, one of his star players (and my personal favourite) will follow suit.

@ those who think Spurs are a bigger club than Chelsea, what are you basing that on? I base it on success, and notably recent success. Chelsea have finished in the top 2 5 years in a row. In 2005 we set the records for most points, fewest conceded, most clean sheets and most victories all in one season.

We have set the standard for results in the Champions league.

That's all Ive got in me for now.

armour87 · 26-05-2008 12:09AM

themont85 wrote: »

Was it your man Tate that Graham Hunter said Riijard and him didn't like each other? Anyway Chelsea don't deserve a great player like Messi the way they do business.

Would you say the same for Zidane and Madrid?

leninbenjamin · 26-05-2008 12:12AM

eZe^ wrote: »

Roman Abramovich's dream team;

Kaka

--Alves
Xavi
Fabregas---Ronaldo--
Robinho

--Messi
Toni
Torres----Villa
Etoo

Bench: Sneijder, Aguero, Adebayor, Robben

It'll happen lads, and it'll only cost him a billion or so....

i played Eto'o in goal once in FM. it didn't go very well. i think he might be better off looking elsewhere.

isn't there a Chelsea discussion thread for all this crap?

eZe^ · 26-05-2008 12:17AM

themont85 wrote: »

Was it your man Tate that Graham Hunter said Riijard and him didn't like each other? Anyway Chelsea don't deserve a great player like Messi the way they do business.

Tate? Do you mean Ten Cates? Why would they not like each other, together they won 2 league titles and a CL?

leninbenjamin wrote: »

i played Eto'o in goal once in FM. it didn't go very well. i think he might be better off looking elsewhere.

isn't there a Chelsea discussion thread for all this crap?

Its Kaka in goal, Etoo's up front... =P

leninbenjamin · 26-05-2008 12:20AM

eZe^ wrote: »

Its Kaka in goal, Etoo's up front... =P

godammit, i hate symmetry

eZe^ · 26-05-2008 12:23AM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

godammit, i hate symmetry

How bout we keep that exact shape for both halves, so Etoo plays up front for 45 mins, and then plays in goal for the other 45... That way our nice symmetry is put to use...

Better yet, 4-4-2, With Torres----Etoo up front for 45 mins, then we can have 2 goal keepers for the 2nd 45... That way, we score in the first half, and then make it impossible to concede in the 2nd... I should be a bloody manager! Winning formula or what.

Dave! · 26-05-2008 12:25AM

Maybe if Abramovich gives Rijkaard 100 million or so

CivilServant · 26-05-2008 12:30AM

eZe^ wrote: »

Roman Abramovich's dream team;

Kaka

--Alves
Xavi
Fabregas---Ronaldo--
Robinho

--Messi
Toni
Torres----Villa
Etoo

Bench: Sneijder, Aguero, Adebayor, Robben

It'll happen lads, and it'll only cost him a billion or so....

Cool. This team won't have to turn around after half time either.

leninbenjamin · 26-05-2008 12:32AM

lol eze, in all seriousness from what i can make out Rijkaard isn't a great manager. his success came largely from his back room staff and unbelievable squad. he has one system and he plays it, if it doesn't work he's out of ideas. i would have rather held onto Grant than take Rijkaard, at least he seems a more versatile manager, and i'd be surprised if the warlords at CFC didn't feel similar. they must have something up their sleeve surely to get rid of Grant. i know it's Chelsea and all, but i don't think Kenyon and co. are as stupid as people make them out to be.

Chelsea - Grant + Rijkaard = Messi?

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