If you can move to any country...

Dudess · 24-05-2008 01:40PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Canada would too cold in winter, even cities in the south like toronto are stupidly cold compared to here in December and January, i was in Chicago in January of 2007 and nearly froze to death when it hit -18C with a wind chill factor making it feel -23C and this in the middle of the day; ditto Finland where i visited in February

Oh horrible. Extreme weather conditions - not good. When it comes to most things I tend not to go for middle-of-the-road, except for temperature - a nice moderate temperature ftw. Another reason why I'd only move to England or Scotland.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2008 01:42PM

Oh I forgot Finland, mmm!
Metal on the radio? Thanks!

Royale with Cheese · 24-05-2008 01:43PM

Deutschland bitte.

newmills · 24-05-2008 01:57PM

IRELAND - You want a decent school, you can pay for it. You want to use a decent road, you can pay the toll. You want a new car, we need 30 percent on top of the price for vehicle registration tax (then we'll add the vat to the entire amount). You need to see a doctor - that'll be 60 euros. You need to go to hospital - some of your hard earned cash please. Your mother is ill so you want to buy a house close to hers - we need 100,000 euros to stamp a piece of paper for you. You need the services of a dentist - cash please. You're self employed but not working - no welfare for you my friend. Your house was burgled - sorry the garda are doing speed checks on the stillorgan dual carriageway (major accident blackspot). The elderly people in rural ireland are being terrorised in their own homes - sorry we need to close the local garda station as we cannot afford to keep it open - sorry how much was the rise you put in for bertie!! Yeah all in all it's pretty much the best place on earth to live!!

WooPeeA · 24-05-2008 01:57PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Deutschland bitte.

Germany is very cheap! I paid €1,50 for beer in pub, 5-10 miles from center of Berlin..

kraggy · 24-05-2008 02:34PM

newmills wrote: »

IRELAND - You want a decent school, you can pay for it. You want to use a decent road, you can pay the toll. You want a new car, we need 30 percent on top of the price for vehicle registration tax (then we'll add the vat to the entire amount). You need to see a doctor - that'll be 60 euros. You need to go to hospital - some of your hard earned cash please. Your mother is ill so you want to buy a house close to hers - we need 100,000 euros to stamp a piece of paper for you. You need the services of a dentist - cash please. You're self employed but not working - no welfare for you my friend. Your house was burgled - sorry the garda are doing speed checks on the stillorgan dual carriageway (major accident blackspot). The elderly people in rural ireland are being terrorised in their own homes - sorry we need to close the local garda station as we cannot afford to keep it open - sorry how much was the rise you put in for bertie!! Yeah all in all it's pretty much the best place on earth to live!!

But would you be willing to pay higher taxes?

People often point to countries such as Sweden and note how good their health system and infrastructure are while complaining about how ineffective ours are.

But people fail to realise that the money has to come from somewhere. Scandanavian countries have higher income tax rates than us.

This is why they can provide good services, longer maternity leave etc.

But people here moan and complain about poor services and moan and complain about tax rates that are not that high in the first place.

You can't have everything at a cheap price. Someone has to pay for it.

StormWarrior · 24-05-2008 03:10PM

I am moving to Scandinavia at my first opportunity. btw to everyone who wants to live in the UK.... why? I live in the UK and it is a godforsaken s***hole.

AARRRGH · 24-05-2008 03:54PM

Auroville... or France.

Dudess · 24-05-2008 03:55PM

I'd say most of the UK is grim - motorways upon motorways upon motorways; Little Chefs/Travelodges; B&Q, Halfords kinda places which are seeping into Ireland now. Real Daily Mail/Telegraph, Thatcher legacy kinda stuff - nasty. But if I had to leave the country it would still be my first choice.

Roen · 24-05-2008 04:49PM

I'd just move everyone else out and stay here.

Affable · 24-05-2008 04:58PM

Dudess wrote: »

Oh horrible. Extreme weather conditions - not good. When it comes to most things I tend not to go for middle-of-the-road, except for temperature - a nice moderate temperature ftw. Another reason why I'd only move to England or Scotland.

Have lived in both countries. Edinburgh is nice. Quite a few Irish people there too.

Omnipresence · 24-05-2008 05:01PM

kraggy wrote: »

But would you be willing to pay higher taxes?

People often point to countries such as Sweden and note how good their health system and infrastructure are while complaining about how ineffective ours are.

But people fail to realise that the money has to come from somewhere. Scandanavian countries have higher income tax rates than us.

This is why they can provide good services, longer maternity leave etc.

But people here moan and complain about poor services and moan and complain about tax rates that are not that high in the first place.

You can't have everything at a cheap price. Someone has to pay for it.

ehh... thats the feckin' point - we pay a lot and get nothing but a big pile of non-working overpriced expensive crap here...

I would GLADLY pay more taxes here or in any other country to have a system that works.... and not just basics like healthcare but infrastructure/transport/energy etc...

They pay more in scandanavia .. but look at what they get for gods sake ..

absolutely no comparison...

Omnipresence · 24-05-2008 05:02PM

oh and Germany -> Berlin for me...

kraggy · 24-05-2008 05:12PM

aloleary wrote: »

ehh... thats the feckin' point - we pay a lot and get nothing but a big pile of non-working overpriced expensive crap here...

I would GLADLY pay more taxes here or in any other country to have a system that works.... and not just basics like healthcare but infrastructure/transport/energy etc...

They pay more in scandanavia .. but look at what they get for gods sake ..

absolutely no comparison...

There's no comparison because they pay much higher taxes.

rossie1977 · 24-05-2008 06:49PM

sweden, finland and denmarks health services rank below ireland according to the WHO http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

sweden and norways public debt as a % of GDP is twice ours and finlands is more than 50% higher, ours is 21% btw

JæKæ · 24-05-2008 06:59PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Canada would too cold in winter, even cities in the south like toronto are stupidly cold compared to here in December and January,

Toronto is well inland, that's why it's so baltic. Vancouver has a very similar climate to Irlanda, with a nicer summer.

JæKæ · 24-05-2008 07:01PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

I am moving to Scandinavia at my first opportunity. btw to everyone who wants to live in the UK.... why? I live in the UK and it is a godforsaken s***hole.

Yep-too many scummers, scangers and chavs. Bit like most towns in Ireland at this stage.
My favourite thing about Canada is there's none of them here.

nice

DublinWriter · 24-05-2008 07:06PM

WooPeeA wrote: »

I read that government of Dubai gives every mature man an apartment for free! Just like that, for better start! And also the medicines are for free there.. And you don't have to pay any bills, government do that for you in Dubai!!! :eek: Sounds like paradise isn't it??

Sure does, except for the fact that as a visitor to the country you can get the mandatory three years jail sentence if you bring a packet of OTC Solpadeine through customs with you. The amount of stories about guys getting 5 year jail sentences for having the butt of a joint stuck to the sole of their shoe on entry is amazing.

Dubai is a basket-case building-site economy just waiting to implode.

WooPeeA wrote: »

In Bahrain for example there's no taxes at all!! All money comes from oil.. That's what my friends from there told me! And government is giving you a check every month just like that!

..and of course the oil will last forever, won't it? *checks watch*

So 'refreshing' to see someone so willing to give up their rights as a citizen of a modern European Republic in exchange for being a subject of one an absolutist UAE monarchy.

Loopy · 24-05-2008 07:23PM

Australia for the sheer beauty of it..

dfx- · 24-05-2008 07:32PM

South Africa still. Cape Town or as far away from Johannesburg and Durban as possible.

Bavaria, Finland and Iceland spring to mind otherwise.

Micamaca · 24-05-2008 07:35PM

Thanks to college am in an absolutely heavenly beautiful part of Germany, small town called Trier. There is wonderful nature from every direction out of this town and here you can actually drive on the motorways as opposed to park on them :pac:

Definitely considering coming back after college. Weather is better here too and it is such a simple but wonderful pleasure to sit outside here without being blown to bits by the gentle breeze we have all the time in Ireland. Find the Germans grand too, so far!

KatCookie · 24-05-2008 07:42PM

i'd love just to tour america for a year or two..
Wouldnt you?
Begin on the East side.. do some shopping in NY.. visit Boston.. and a very quick trip to Canada.. see what life it like without any gun culture.. visit all that side of the US.. then go south.. quick stop in Florida.. visit New Orleans.. Travel through the country where old people sit oustide shops all day.. and where people look at you because your a foreigner.. then finish up on the west side.. California .. some celeb spotting in Hollywood.. then go home...

then settle in Sweden or somewhere beautiful.. woulnt mind the taxes...
if not sweden... then very West Cork/ Kerry..

its nice to dream isnt it!!

OPENROAD · 24-05-2008 08:37PM

England-London for me.

AckwelFoley · 24-05-2008 08:40PM

peud-etre La france.

Blob Gilb · 24-05-2008 08:41PM

Micamaca wrote: »

Thanks to college am in an absolutely heavenly beautiful part of Germany, small town called Trier. There is wonderful nature from every direction out of this town and here you can actually drive on the motorways as opposed to park on them :pac:

Definitely considering coming back after college. Weather is better here too and it is such a simple but wonderful pleasure to sit outside here without being blown to bits by the gentle breeze we have all the time in Ireland. Find the Germans grand too, so far!

#2

just like you, I know both parts of the story (I'm from the said area but living in Dublin at the moment) and I totally agree

KatCookie · 24-05-2008 10:52PM

snyper wrote: »

peud-etre La france.

should it not be Peut-etre perhaps??

Micamaca · 24-05-2008 11:44PM

Blob Gilb wrote: »

#2

just like you, I know both parts of the story (I'm from the said area but living in Dublin at the moment) and I totally agree

That's funny! How are you finding Dublin? Big change, no doubt! Really enjoying your part of the world here, I don't want to come home at all! Was in Ghent and other parts of Belgium last weekend and spent the whole weekend shivering after the heatwave we had here in Trier. Brrrrr ! Reminded me of home

WooPeeA · 25-05-2008 12:39AM

DublinWriter wrote: »

..and of course the oil will last forever, won't it? *checks watch*

So 'refreshing' to see someone so willing to give up their rights as a citizen of a modern European Republic in exchange for being a subject of one an absolutist UAE monarchy.

True but even though those countries are wasting so much of money they still spend only 30% of yearly income! Plus Gulf countries owns half of America as well.. So it's not gonna be stopped that soon.

KatCookie wrote: »

i'd love just to tour america for a year or two..
Wouldnt you?
Begin on the East side.. do some shopping in NY.. visit Boston.. and a very quick trip to Canada.. see what life it like without any gun culture.. visit all that side of the US.. then go south.. quick stop in Florida.. visit New Orleans.. Travel through the country where old people sit oustide shops all day.. and where people look at you because your a foreigner.. then finish up on the west side.. California .. some celeb spotting in Hollywood.. then go home...

then settle in Sweden or somewhere beautiful.. woulnt mind the taxes...
if not sweden... then very West Cork/ Kerry..

its nice to dream isnt it!!

What an awesome idea!! Are you not looking for some company during that trip ?:cool:

Blob Gilb · 25-05-2008 12:11PM

Micamaca wrote: »

That's funny! How are you finding Dublin? Big change, no doubt! Really enjoying your part of the world here, I don't want to come home at all! Was in Ghent and other parts of Belgium last weekend and spent the whole weekend shivering after the heatwave we had here in Trier. Brrrrr ! Reminded me of home

I heard they forecasted 32°C for the upcoming Tuesday, so be prepared

I think you could write books about the differences between the Liffey and the Mosel area but that's not the purpose of this topic anyway

zuutroy · 25-05-2008 12:26PM

Canada for me....lol @ people wanting to live in Japan...3 hour commutes and 12 hour work day FTW. Also, Holland sucks outside Amsterdam.

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