Giles and dunphy criticizing Terry for taking penalty

ROCKMAN · 22-05-2008 02:07PM

Terry was unlucky , hit the post and missed a peno in a major final like a lot of great players before him . The slip was after contact with the ball and in my opinion did not change the direction of the ball.

As for taking the 5th peno . I do not think Drogba senting off affected the shooting order. As i think Belletti was brought on as a reaction to the red card and to take his place in the shootout. I think Terry would always be the first to volunteer to take the pressure kick . The same way I think Roy Keane would volunteer if the situation arose in his playing days . Top class Captains led by example and step up when called upon

Peno's are lottos and horrible way to lose ,

As for Giles and Co at this stage I am more surprised anyone is still listening to them....

Mitch Connor · 22-05-2008 04:00PM

4-age wrote: »

It would have been a foul penalty if he had of scored it tbh. He stoped dead.

Don't talk rubbish - there is no rule against what ronaldo did. People seem to think there is, but there isn't. as long as the Ref doesn't deem it unsporting then it is fine. A feint is considered part of the game and there is no rule against it. Go on, try to find it.... you won't.

Fed up with people giving out about this when their moaning is baseless.

ROCKMAN · 22-05-2008 04:05PM

Tauren wrote: »

Don't talk rubbish - there is no rule against what ronaldo did. People seem to think there is, but there isn't. as long as the Ref doesn't deem it unsporting then it is fine. A feint is considered part of the game and there is no rule against it. Go on, try to find it.... you won't.

Fed up with people giving out about this when their moaning is baseless.

When the first player to do it at international level ie PELE , did not FIFA send over a delegation to watch him take a good few peno's and their verdict was that it was ok.

Reganio 2 · 22-05-2008 04:12PM

As far as I know the first player to do it was our very own John Aldridge, and their was uproar over it and I believe he was stopped doing it from then on.

jaykay74 · 22-05-2008 04:30PM

Procedure
Feinting to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted as
part of football. However, if in the opinion of the referee the feinting
is considered an act of unsporting behaviour, the player shall be
cautioned.

See law 14 if you are interested.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/laws_of_the_game_0708_10565.pdf

Mitch Connor · 22-05-2008 04:45PM

jaykay74 wrote: »

Procedure
Feinting to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted as
part of football. However, if in the opinion of the referee the feinting
is considered an act of unsporting behaviour, the player shall be
cautioned.

See law 14 if you are interested.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/laws_of_the_game_0708_10565.pdf

thank you - hopefully people can stop moaning about it now that we have proof. Knew I had seen it but was too busy to root it out again. Cheers.

Maybe we should send it on to Sky Sports and BBC so they can stop going on about it too.

kerash · 22-05-2008 04:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Rooney was substituted so couldnt take one.

It is unfair to criticise anyone for missing in a shootout. it happens, its a lottery.

Yep, already explained I had a lapse of memory last nite. Didnt and wouldn't criticise anyone for missing. I think the point i was trying and failing to make was that Gilles, Dunphy would be Man U biased and Brady defo wouldn't be a chelsea fan;) I wouldn't pass much remarks on their analysis of the game.:)

Chardee MacDennis · 22-05-2008 05:25PM

he took it coz he is a glory hunter imho. i do think he ran up all wrong and thats why he slipped. i am sure someone else could have taken one, but i have a feeling he asked to take it, i can imagine the whole england captain thing was in his head too.

ShoulderChip · 24-05-2008 01:07AM

Call_me_al wrote: »

he took it coz he is a glory hunter imho. i do think he ran up all wrong and thats why he slipped. i am sure someone else could have taken one, but i have a feeling he asked to take it, i can imagine the whole england captain thing was in his head too.

I think thats a bit unfair.

Dave! · 24-05-2008 01:15AM

I don't see the big deal really... Every player on the pitch (plus the officials) has the ability to score a penalty. It's surely the easiest opportunity one has (indeed, that's the point of it) to score a goal. When it comes to penalty shootouts, it's mainly about who has the mental strength to do what they could do in any other setting or circumstance. And for that reason I would have thought that it would go without saying that the captain would be one of the penalty takers.

I'm sure John Terry is gutted, but he shouldn't (IMO) feel bad about stepping up to take the kick.

estebancambias · 24-05-2008 01:24AM

I am Dunphy and Giles biggest fan but that was complete bull****, especially about JT(:rolleyes:) considering he scored for England from the spot in 2004.

Giles zooming in on the foot was funny stuff.

Ronaldo's penalty was **** though, but hardly bottled it.

Oh and by the way DaveMcG, I've missed every single penalty I ever took. I always try to do the Di Canio but needless to say I'm left with the old egg on my face.

Dave! · 24-05-2008 01:41AM

I'm sure you have many talents besides football, esteban

24-05-2008 01:49AM

Had to post it cos its too good!

I feel for terry by the way so im not havin a cheap dig......or maybe you'll think I am anyway! So what its funny!

estebancambias · 24-05-2008 02:05AM

DaveMcG wrote: »

I'm sure you have many talents besides football, esteban

*Shudders*

You were right Dave, that wink is freaking me out.

Dave! · 24-05-2008 02:07AM

Holy crap, I just noticed the sexual connotations in my post! :eek:

*backs out of thread slowly*

estebancambias · 24-05-2008 02:13AM

DaveMcG wrote: »

Holy crap, I just noticed the sexual connotations in my post! :eek:

*backs out of thread slowly*

Spare me your UCD 2nd year History mumbo jumbo.

I admit it, I have been stalking every single one of your posts in that thread.

Giles and dunphy criticizing Terry for taking penalty

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