Giles and dunphy criticizing Terry for taking penalty

They are such gimps really,if he hadn't slipped he woulda scored,VDS went the total opposite wat,hell if he had only slipped a slight bit he would still scored!

ShoulderChip wrote: »

What are they on?
Just because he messed up his penalty, they have decided he is bad at penalties and had no right taking one, lets take a look at who was left at this point

Anelka - went on to miss
Essien - last time he took a penalty his mother fainted and had to be brought to hospital, he promised her he would not take one again
Carvalho - also a centreback
Makelele - not a goalscorer, almost missed the one charity penalty he was given two years ago etc.

The point is that Chelsea are no jokers, they have obviousely spent a lot of time practicing penalties in training and they know who is good at taking penalties.
John Terry would not be taking that penalty if he wasn't the best penalty taker of the rest of the players left.

Although it may have been worth Mrs. Essien visiting hospital again

i thought they were out of order myself - he was unlucky, whether down to poor foot placement or a poor pitch, he was unlucky. He showed great courage in being the 5th man, as far as we know no one else wanted to take the 5th. I think i have seen him spank a peno in before too, and we have seen great finishes from Terry over his career.

He was unlucky, as was Ronaldo, as was Anelka imo. No one missed their penalty horribly, no penalties were ballooned over the bar or miles wide.

I thought they were talking bollocks to be honest. Giles asking for the video to be stopped to analyse Terry's leg positioning. Just seemed to me that his leg went from under him rather than the positioning being off.

Also Dunphy saying centre-backs shouldn't be taking penalties. Who scored the peno that took Ireland past Romania in 1990? Don't remember him having any problems back then.

It seemed to me like criticism for the sake of criticism. Then hearing Dunphy bash Ronaldo saying he 'bottled it'. Cos his on-target penalty was saved? Petty rants I think.

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Makelele - not a goalscorer, almost missed the one charity penalty he was given two years ago etc.

Also wasn't eligible to take one seeing as he'd been substituted.

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Thats true but then again you have to be playing to be eligible to take a penalty.

Was he off? woopsie! T'was the tension melted my head! Anyway, like myself Giles and co. werent on best form tonite;)

One Cold Hand wrote: »

How do we know this? I'd say Ballack and Lamps would have been happy to go last if asked.



Ronaldo wasn't unlucky. It was a terrible peno. Why didn't he just run straight up and bang it in? What the point in stopping? Fair play to Cech for calling his bluff.

Terry stepped up, no one else. no reason to belive Lampard or Ballack asked to be moved down the order and were denied.

As for Ronaldo's penalty - he took it THE EXACT SAME WAY HE ALWAYS DOES, doing anything different would have been altering his generally well proven style. And yes, he was unlucky - if the keeper hadn't GUESSED the right way, it would have done in. He was unlucky in the same way the chelsea players were lucky van der sar didn't get a strong hand to the two he got close to in the first 5.

If Terry had scored that penalty it would have been hailed as one of the greatest individual moments of mental fortitude and courage ever displayed by an English football player. But he missed by a matter of centimeters, so it will instead end up being viewed as a questionable incidence of ego > rationality. Funny old game.

ShoulderChip wrote: »

What are they on?
Just because he messed up his penalty, they have decided he is bad at penalties and had no right taking one, lets take a look at who was left at this point

Anelka - went on to miss
Essien - last time he took a penalty his mother fainted and had to be brought to hospital, he promised her he would not take one again
Carvalho - also a centreback
Makelele - not a goalscorer, almost missed the one charity penalty he was given two years ago etc.

The point is that Chelsea are no jokers, they have obviousely spent a lot of time practicing penalties in training and they know who is good at taking penalties.
John Terry would not be taking that penalty if he wasn't the best penalty taker of the rest of the players left.

Although it may have been worth Mrs. Essien visiting hospital again

Personnaly I would have went for Kalou to take one ahead of Terry, when I saw terry step up my 1st thought was he is going to miss, then I started to think and IMO (Bold just to make sure you all see it) he saw it as the chance to make himself a supreme Chelsea legend and score the goal that wins them their 1st Champions League trophy.

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I thought they were talking bollocks to be honest.

That is all really that has to be said. Nothing new here.

> He was unlucky, as was Ronaldo, as was Anelka imo. No one missed their penalty horribly, no penalties were ballooned over the bar or miles wide.

Terry was unlucky with his penalty, no doubt about that. He slipped, not because of the pitch, but these things do happen and as has been pointed out, he was cm's away from being hailed a hero and Ronaldo the villain, such is the fine line in football.

Ronaldo's spot kick was not a good one as it was at the height and position and pace that made it easy for Cech (or any goalkeeper) to save if he was going the right way (if guessing) or even if he waited until the kick was taken. Anelka's kick was similarly at an easy height to save, although better than Ronaldo's, and vd Sar knew he was going to save it just after it had been kicked.

Yes, Giles went a bit overboard on close-ups on Terry's slip - I think he wanted to get his point across the reason why he slipped, that his foot was placed too close to the ball, etc, and that it wasnt the pitch. We got your point Johnny the first time you mentioned it.

In terms of lottery, there is always an element of lottery involved in penalties when goalies are guessing, and there was in last nights shoot-out especially as it turned out and ended up 6-5. Cech and vd Sar were close a couple of times, getting a hand to penalties (after guessing right) but the ball still managing to get in. Belletti's wasnt brilliant but vd Sar went the wrong way.

There's no other way to settle matches, although I wouldnt mind seeing a different system instead where players get the ball on the half-way line and try and run in and score with the goalie allowed to come off the line, etc, perhaps a 15-second time limit. It would reduce the element of lottery and goalies guessing perhaps.

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