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What is it like? (App. Comp / Comp. Forensics)

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  • #122
    blue-army
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    well i was just wondering if it is a popular course
    Is the Applied coputing course popular?
    I've heard it's quite popular alright.....I've applied for it, and my friend has too.


  • #123
    stick-dan
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    Can't see the college having more than 25 applicants for each course myself!

    Doubt there will be any refusals either as the college are eager to strangthen these two courses, Student number wise!

    Best of luck in the upcoming exams lads anyway!


  • #124
    Sully
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    stick-dan wrote: »
    Can't see the college having more than 25 applicants for each course myself!

    Doubt there will be any refusals either as the college are eager to strangthen these two courses, Student number wise!

    Best of luck in the upcoming exams lads anyway!

    The course has for years been extremely popular, well before we came to the WIT. It quietened down a bit, but it seems to be on the rise again. At the end of the day, it remains probably one of the most popular course in WIT if not the most popular IT Course.

    Refusal, on the other hand, is rare I gather.


  • #125
    stick-dan
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    refusal is unlikely as you said urself it was once an extremely popular course and they are trying to restore it back to former glory so to speak.

    It is a popular course not the most popular in the college by a long shot what with the vast numbers of business students, who btw most of can't even turn on a computer :P , but the most popular in the IT part of the college.


  • #126
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    So ur sayin that if i get the required 320 points it is very unlikely that i would get refused


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  • #127
    stick-dan
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    So ur sayin that if i get the required 320 points it is very unlikely that i would get refused

    i can't say that for certain obviously but seeing as the course normally hosts around 20 students a year i would see no reason why anyone would be refused.. considering my year has 10 but this years has 20 students so they seem to be accepting numbers...


  • #128
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    Whats the story if u get the minimum points and there is a surplus of people applying for the course


  • #129
    stick-dan
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    Whats the story if u get the minimum points and there is a surplus of people applying for the course

    was talking to a few of the lads from the first year of the course today and they told me that there is a 210% increase in the first choice applicants for the forensics course which they maintained worked out about 40-ish people. I cant allow you to quote me on them but i'll follow it up with one of the lads tomorrow. So it seems that forensics is popular. But didn't hear anything about the appied computing end of things.I'll see if they have info on them figures and get back to you.


  • #130
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    Thanks a million man


  • #131
    stick-dan
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    no problemo, i'll ask em after my programming exam today :)


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  • #132
    Sully
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    As far as im aware the CAO process is automated. They dont manually pick students, its all automatic based on the required points for the course and the points you get. I know that some people had to go in for an interview when they didnt met the set critera to get access to the course, so I assume you may have to do the same. I myself am one of those students who did not meet the Maths requirement and I had an interview with the course leader about it before being accepted.

    To be fair, Computer Forensics is a new course. Its always going to be a popular course but like the Applied Computing it seems to suffer from a drop out rate (maybe not as bad). Both course are similar in areas as you cover the same material. You cant get accurate readings on such a course. Isnt this the first year of the course? Or was it running prior? I cant recall for sure, as I remember there was some confusion surrounding it. But I know its only a new course.

    Applied Computing has been around donkeys years and was always extremely popular. I suppose the whole IT Industry has suffered in previous years and while it seems to be rising and demand for IT based jobs - people still fear going into the course as they dont they will get a job out of it. Hence the low numbers for IT courses in general and lower for this course as its a lot tougher then other related courses. Iv been in the course 3 years now and I can see its gaining popularity, but suffering from drop outs as the course isnt easy. You cant deny that, if you compare this years, last years and the year before that course numbers. :)


  • #133
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    and what makes the course so difficult the maths / physics?


  • #134
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    What are the hours and morning times for lectures


  • #135
    Sully
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    What are the hours and morning times for lectures

    The timetable is different each year. :)


  • #136
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    Did u do ordinary maths or honours maths in leaving cert and i hope that me takin up physics for the leaving cert was a good idea because it is really difficult


  • #137
    stick-dan
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    Did u do ordinary maths or honours maths in leaving cert and i hope that me takin up physics for the leaving cert was a good idea because it is really difficult

    It's a great idea, really it is. Physics is present in at least one semester anyway!


  • #138
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    well thats a relief to know what i am learning actually makes a difference because i cannot see how it can be applied to computers


  • #139
    stick-dan
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    well thats a relief to know what i am learning actually makes a difference because i cannot see how it can be applied to computers

    Alot of it isn't i never found the physics aspect any contribution to the course but its a required module apparently so,


  • #140
    Sully
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    Did u do ordinary maths or honours maths in leaving cert and i hope that me takin up physics for the leaving cert was a good idea because it is really difficult

    I did Ordinary Level Maths but didnt get the required grade IIRC. I got in via interview.

    Physics in this course is Leaving Cert Physics. Like some of the Maths areas, but a bit more advanced. :)


  • #141
    Sully
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    well thats a relief to know what i am learning actually makes a difference because i cannot see how it can be applied to computers

    Meh, I didnt think what we did reflected much on how it applied to computers. In ways, Digital Electronics did but its only required depending on the level of IT you want to work in. I can see its uses!


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  • #142
    jakedixon2004
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    That wouldnt have any thing to do with Applies Electronics in the physics because i am doing the other choice , Particle Physics


  • #143
    stick-dan
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    That wouldnt have any thing to do with Applies Electronics in the physics because i am doing the other choice , Particle Physics

    Just on for a second, the digital electronics is all about diodes,transistors, logic gates and basically the nuts and bolts of how circuits are constructed. Again as sully said it all depends on which area you go into in IT. For software engineers it wouldn't be terribly important like. It was always stressed to us by the lecturer that it was extremely important to know where all the circuits controlling/powering your computer came from.I can see where it is used now alright.


  • #144
    jakedixon2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭jakedixon2004


    Thats the spirit :)
    Is anyone here a member of the computer society ?


  • #145
    Sully
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    Thats the spirit :)
    Is anyone here a member of the computer society ?

    There is no longer a Computer Society. SNet was that, and we tried to restart it but failed. See earlier posts Re: SNet on that :)


  • #146
    Sully
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    Right since the topic derailed into a debate seperate to this topic, iv split the posts into their own thread located here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055294202

    For those wishing to continue the debate, do so there. As the last post in that topic states - stick to the topic at hand and refrain from starting getting personal.

    Thanks. :)

    Back to this topic now...


  • #147
    Sully
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    BSc in Applied Computing - Level 8, Code: WD028 (Undergraduate)
    Department of Computing, Mathematics and Physics.

    What is the BSc(Hons) in Applied Computing?
    It is a four year honours degree course. It is the oldest degree in WIT, and has a solid and unrivaled reputation in computing industry in Ireland. The main part of the programme equips you with strong programming/systems development/problem solving skills. You will choose an area of your choice depending on your interests. There ares are called streams and give you an opportunity to specialize in an area of your choice. Currently we have five streams on offer; there are:
    • Computer Games
    • Computer Forensics
    • Information Systems
    • Networks
    • Embedded Systems (incl. automotive software)

    As new and exciting areas emerge, we design streams to address these areas so these lists may have even more choice than is currently available.

    What Topics will I study?
    Year 1
    Topics Include:
    • Computing Essentials
    • Programming
    • Software Development
    • Mathematics
    • Physics
    • Thinking & Learning Skills

    Year 2
    During year 2, students take one module from two streams. This gives you a taste of two different streams. At the end of second year, you will choose your stream of choice and take 2 modules in this area each semester for the remainder of the programme.

    Year 3
    Year 3 includes a 6-month work placement. This gives you the opportunity to get experience of the workplace. Students have found that this invaluable part of the programme.

    Year 4
    Year 4 features a major project. This allows you, the student to use the skills you have gained so far as well as the experience gained from work experience to produce a significant system which will again be tailored to your interests. The project will usually consist of the development of a system from the start. This could be, for instance the design and development of a multi-user game across a network, design and development of testing software for car components. You get the chance to challenge yourself in an area of your choice.

    What areas do I work in?
    • Software Development
    • Games Programming
    • Computer Forensics
    • Automotive Software Development
    • Network Management
    • Education
    • Research
    • Project Management

    What follow on study opportunities are available?
    Students who successfully complete the BSc (Hons) in Applied Computing may avail of a range of taught and research masters programmers (MSc). On completion of an MSc, students will have the opportunity to pursue a PhD programme.

    Are there any minimum entry level requirements?
    Total number of different subjects at grade D or better: 6
    Total number at higher level grade C or better (Honours): 2
    Mathematics OB3/HD3 and English or Irish OD3/HD3 and English or Irish OD3/HD3 are required subjects.

    What points do I need to get?
    The points required for this course in 2007 were 300.
    The points required for this course in 2006 were 290.
    The points required for this course in 2005 were 300.

    How do I find out more?
    Ask here, someone might be able to answer your questions. Otherwise, contact WIT by emailing schoolsliaison@wit.ie, calling 051 845533 or download a prospectus on www.wit.ie.

    Programme Leader:
    Ms. Mairead Meagher
    www.wit.ie/wd028

    Information gathered from WIT Information Sheet. Copyright (C) WIT.


  • #148
    stick-dan
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    Good idea :)

    Apparently the information systems stream will no longer be running as one of this years first years informed me that there was no demand and since it was costing the college 220k to run it each year it just wasn't feasible.So wouldn't be getting your hopes up on that one.


  • #149
    Sully
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    The above listing information was provided at this years open day. Might be true, there was little demand in my year also. Its a businessy subject, which wouldnt be to bad but there are other streams id prefer over it.


  • #150
    stick-dan
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    oh yeah i know that, the college have advertised it. But apparently they have decided against it now. At this moment in time there are meeting going on with regard to our course. Was filled in by one of the lecturing staff about this. The continouus assessment is being revised completely, the numbers analyzed as is performance and modules being looked at. Another student has already had a chat about this aswell to the year head because he wanted to do information systems next year but was informed it is very unlikely if even possible that it will run.

    The inaccuracy is indeed on behalf of the college, but maybe not as it might not be brought into effect in the coming year.


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  • #151
    coadyj
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    jakedixon2004 wrote: »
    Did u do ordinary maths or honours maths in leaving cert and i hope that me taking up physics for the leaving cert was a good idea because it is really difficult

    to be honest, i wouldn't even try to learn how to program if you don't do honers maths, its the same type of logical thinking. Leaving cert maths is easy once you have the mind set for it, Programming is the same.

    I did CS in trinity too and the basic requirments are at least a c1 in honers maths. And they do that for a reason.

    I did physics for the leaving too, and i havent seen any interlap in either of the cs courses i did, If you dont like phisics dump it. I personaly think its one of the most boring subjects in the plannet, sorry to any who disagree.

    If you want to have a go at some of the stuff you can do in college you can, you certinly do not need to be there to learn how to program

    if you goto sun.com and download the sdk you can start developing right now

    See if you can get the hang of it now, i didnt learn a single thing about programming from any lecture, just from messing around myself


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