need help finding scariest person in history!

Lockstep · 09-05-2008 02:09AM

Dudess wrote: »

kickoutthejams: I've just read the Wikipedia link on the Nanking Massacre. Jesus, Mary and Joseph...

I read the Rape of Nanking by Iris Chang.

I know I'm fairly irreverent and all that, but I still do have a sense of right and wrong believe it or not:D

It went into a lot more detail than the wikipedia article. What some of those poor women went through chilled me to my bones. Then there's all the men and boys forced to.....well you get the picture.

Honestly one of the most shocking episodes I've come across during WWII as well as life in general.

Dudess · 09-05-2008 02:15AM

And the farmers. And the forced inter-family stuff. Jesus wept...

The Wikipedia article is grotesque enough, a book I certainly could not handle.

Lockstep · 09-05-2008 02:21AM

Dudess wrote: »

And the farmers. And the forced inter-family stuff. Jesus wept...

The Wikipedia article is grotesque enough, a book I certainly could not handle.

Yeah, I didn't want to mention any of that stuff here in case people were a little grossed out by my post. Suffice to say it was an awful, awful situation.

The thing about it is the entire violence just seemed so much based around rape. Massacres etc are terrible, as is rape which are all too common in warfare but all the stuff they forced people to do...that shocked me most of all as it was the sadism involved.

Some of the images of the Nanking massacre beggar belief.

As might be expected, I've a huge interest in WWII, but often the atrocities carried out are extremely hard to handle.

Dudess · 09-05-2008 02:31AM

Yeah I wouldn't feel right posting up too much detail. Google it if you're interested. It's one of the worst things I've ever heard of. What was done to these men to make them so inhumane? They can't all have been evil...

And is Japan as apologetic today as Germany is? I don't get the impression it is, but I could be wrong.

Standard Toaster · 09-05-2008 02:41AM

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Seriously fúcked up chap. Brown bread now.

javaboy · 09-05-2008 07:18AM

Jumpy wrote: »

The prison boxing team were really pissed when they heard he had died. The were going to sign him up because they heard he had a lethal jab.

Why did Harold Shipman hang himself before finishing his life sentence?

Because he had no patience/patients. D'ya geddit?

These guys are pretty scary:

http://www.nndb.com/people/600/000022534/gglitter-yipes.jpg

http://oruzgan.web-log.nl/photos/mensen_in_het_nieuws_peop/mullah_omar.jpg

Lockstep · 09-05-2008 09:48AM

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah I wouldn't feel right posting up too much detail. Google it if you're interested. It's one of the worst things I've ever heard of. What was done to these men to make them so inhumane? They can't all have been evil...

And is Japan as apologetic today as Germany is? I don't get the impression it is, but I could be wrong.

It's important to remember though that even in such places, heroism and humanity still existed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe

Raiser · 09-05-2008 01:33PM

Tell me that this man is not evil......

http://ageofreason.mu.nu/pics/9958184_1d3029f0e7.jpg

:eek:

Lockstep · 09-05-2008 06:47PM

One is the dessicated dictator of an ancient, evil and corrupt institution.
The other was in Star Wars.

Only slagging to all the Christian folks out there:pac:

Aisling(",) · 09-05-2008 07:08PM

Dudess wrote: »

Heh, nice. He doesn't look evil though - he and his moustachioed Iraqi counterpart. However a certain other moustachioed dictator did look pretty scary.

hey my dad looks like hitler and stalin and he aint scary!

Dudess · 09-05-2008 07:40PM

kickoutthejams wrote: »

One is the dessicated dictator of an ancient, evil and corrupt institution.
The other was in Star Wars.

Only slagging to all the Christian folks out there:pac:

Plenty of christians would like that very much - e.g. presbyterians and baptists.

Lockstep · 09-05-2008 07:51PM

Dudess wrote: »

Plenty of christians would like that very much - e.g. presbyterians and baptists.

Ah yeah, I'm Catholic myself mind.

No harm intended folks.

Creature · 09-05-2008 07:57PM

He killed Charlie ffs

Dudess · 09-05-2008 08:25PM

Ah Street Fighter... sweet memories of 1993.

kowloon · 09-05-2008 08:58PM

I don't really believe in the idea of "evil" people. All the famous dictators and murderers had reasons behind their actions (usually deep seated psychological issues) that allowed them to stray from the social norms.
One person with enough charisma (for lack of a better word) can set off a domino effect that suits our pack animal instincts. People go with the flow.
Members of the Einsatzgruppen settled down and returned to (relatively) normal existances once they were removed from their group and comrades who provided the "moral reinforcement" that allowed them to gather up entire populations of villages and burn them in barns and churches.
All that is required is a critical mass of people deranged enough to start the ball rolling and "respectable" members of society flock from the wings to sign up.

Nailz · 09-05-2008 09:05PM

Did anybody say this man? I would be suprised if it isn't...

Due out for parole in 2012, he might be 77 by the time, but you still wouldn't go near him! :eek:

Dudess · 09-05-2008 09:12PM

Holy crap, I presumed he was dead.

@kowleen +1
Yep, it would be foolish to believe that all the nazis, for instance, were bad, cruel people.

Nailz · 09-05-2008 09:23PM

Dudess wrote: »

Holy crap, I presumed he was dead.

I know, frightening isn't it!? :eek: What's even more frightening is the prospect of him being releast! I think they should've stuck with that Death Penalty...

kowloon · 09-05-2008 09:36PM

How did he manage to get the sentence down below life without parole? (Proper life, not the short "life" you get here)

Caoimhín · 09-05-2008 09:59PM

kowloon wrote: »

I don't really believe in the idea of "evil" people. All the famous dictators and murderers had reasons behind their actions (usually deep seated psychological issues) that allowed them to stray from the social norms.
One person with enough charisma (for lack of a better word) can set off a domino effect that suits our pack animal instincts. People go with the flow.
Members of the Einsatzgruppen settled down and returned to (relatively) normal existances once they were removed from their group and comrades who provided the "moral reinforcement" that allowed them to gather up entire populations of villages and burn them in barns and churches.
All that is required is a critical mass of people deranged enough to start the ball rolling and "respectable" members of society flock from the wings to sign up.

Like Fine Gael then?

kowloon · 09-05-2008 10:08PM

caoibhin wrote: »

Like Fine Gael then?

No, they are evil people. The exception that proves the rule

Nailz · 09-05-2008 11:24PM

kowloon wrote: »

How did he manage to get the sentence down below life without parole? (Proper life, not the short "life" you get here)

Don't know, judge must have dropped the ball. Clearly a sick individual, responible for countless murders, and the notion of the "Manson Family" and the notorious "Helter Skelter". Not right in the head. Here a bit of the artical on Wikipedia on the penalty sequance.

Wikipedia wrote:

Midway through the penalty phase, Manson shaved his head and trimmed his beard to a fork; he told the press, "I am the Devil, and the Devil always has a bald head." In what the prosecution regarded as belated recognition on their part that imitation of Manson only proved his domination, the female defendants refrained from shaving their heads until the jurors retired to weigh the state's request for the death penalty.

The effort to exonerate Manson via the "copycat" scenario failed; on March 29, 1971, the jury returned verdicts of death against all four defendants on all counts. On April 19, 1971, Judge Older sentenced the four to death.

On the day the verdicts recommending the death penalty were returned, news came that the badly-decomposed body of Ronald Hughes had been found wedged between two boulders in Ventura County. It was rumored, although never proven, that Hughes was murdered by the Family, possibly because he had stood up to Manson and refused to allow Van Houten to take the stand and absolve Manson of the crimes. Though he might have perished in flooding, a Family member allegedly said Hughes was "the first of the retaliation murders."

Creature · 09-05-2008 11:35PM

Dudess wrote: »

Ah Street Fighter... sweet memories of 1993.

Yes I remember 1993 too.

Nailz · 10-05-2008 11:24AM

1993 was the year the Mondays' formally broke up

...

Dudess · 10-05-2008 11:28AM

Get this month's Q magazine if you haven't already - there's a Madchester 20th anniversary feature.

Actually some of the Happy Mondays are pretty scary (Paul Ryder - wouldn't wanna get on the wrong side of him).

Anyhoo, back on topic...

10-05-2008 12:31PM

Is this based on their appearance or their actual deeds?

This guy is pretty freaky

Doesn't look scary and he only killed 1 person, eating most of their body and dumping the remains. He got caught whilst doing so.

Scariest thing about him? They released him and he is still a free man.

If you ever read his confession (do so at your own risk, it's definately NSFW and quite gruesome) it is disturbing.

Scarier still is that he is a minor celebrity in Japan

Toto Wolfcastle · 10-05-2008 02:00PM

Has this guy been mentioned yet? He was on Oprah and he's pretty scary.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/

kryogen · 10-05-2008 02:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is this based on their appearance or their actual deeds?

This guy is pretty freaky

Doesn't look scary and he only killed 1 person, eating most of their body and dumping the remains. He got caught whilst doing so.

Scariest thing about him? They released him and he is still a free man.

If you ever read his confession (do so at your own risk, it's definately NSFW and quite gruesome) it is disturbing.

Scarier still is that he is a minor celebrity in Japan

Jesus Christ! how can he be walking around having served no jail time!!!!! where would i find his confession??

doonothing · 10-05-2008 04:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is this based on their appearance or their actual deeds?

This guy is pretty freaky

Doesn't look scary and he only killed 1 person, eating most of their body and dumping the remains. He got caught whilst doing so.

Scariest thing about him? They released him and he is still a free man.

If you ever read his confession (do so at your own risk, it's definately NSFW and quite gruesome) it is disturbing.

Scarier still is that he is a minor celebrity in Japan

"He also writes restaurant reviews"

bahaha

gollyitsolly · 10-05-2008 11:37PM

Saw a program on tv about the top 10 scary people in movies. The childcatcher in ChittyChittyBangBang was number 2. I dont have a pic though.

need help finding scariest person in history!

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