Women = crazy!

AngryBadger wrote: »

See I actually have to0 dispute this. I think BOTH men and women are idiots, I just think women are allowed to get away with it more. And obviously if you're allowed to constantly get away with behaving like an eejit, then you're going to lean more and more toward that end of the spectrum.

While I've known guys that got away with pretty much anything they wanted, for the most part I've found guys tend to get honest responses from their mates. If a guy cheats on his gf, his mates are not gonna tell him it was her fault for neglecting his needs, they're gonna tell him he was a donkey and there's no chance she'll take him back.

Whereas, again in my own experience, women will tell themselves, and each other, any ridiculous story which justifies whatever blagarding they engage in. And guys will even play along with this, (usually because they'll be ostricised by the wider circle of male/female friends if they don't).

Example, met a female friend of some friends at a party a few months back (not in ANY kind of romantic capacity). She spent the night going on and on about how her boyfriend had left on some trip a week ago, but they were staying together because they were so in love and love conquers all blah blah blah.

So another guy from the party sleeps on a couch in her room that night, and the next morning she invites him into her bed.

Obviously EVERYONE who was still around knew this, and she promptly started going on about how she didn't really see it as cheating because she had "needs", and then onto how she wouldn't tell her bf because she wasn't one of "these people" who would hurt someone else just to un-burden themselves of their guilt. B-****ing-S.

This doesn't apply to ALL women, but it does apply to most in my experience.

That pretty much nails it, or at least would be my view on the matter. Again as a generalisation. There's less accountability for women socially than for men. Caprice thy name is woman. As you say they'll do something and justify it to themselves afterwards. Your example of cheating is a very obvious and common one. Emotional response +/= sexual response which overrules "moral" objection = cheating, followed afterwards by self justification(often very labyrinthine too) to obviate guilt.

I have also found that if a woman tells a guy who is chatting her up that she has a boyfriend, - obviously the further along in the conversation the better, if it's at the start it's game over - it's a lot less of an issue than the other way around. Indeed by telling him that after or during the flirty stage, she's basically saying that if anything "happens" it's his "fault" as she did tell him. Drops the guilt for her. After all he confused/led her on/got her drunk etc. I've seen and heard that one so often it's not funny.

As a slapper man slut I know puts it very crudely, "remove judgement and guilt and the knickers will follow". Crass? Yes. Crude? Yes. Unbelievably cynical? For sure. But his madly high success rate goes a fair way to justifying his stance. The stories I could tell you about that guy. He pulled one woman at her own engagement party!! Another at her hen night. Crazy.

Have met some normal girls and there just wasn't a spark between us so we got on fine, maybe had fun in some cases, but ultimately romantically unsuited. However, those cases are far outweighed by the number of bat**** loco women I've encountered. Not saying there aren't plenty of fellas out there that are pure headmelts, but it seems to be a majority trait in women.

I've a theory on this(oh oh). Women I have as mates are bang on. No loopiness involved at all. With their partners, they can be completely nuts though. I reckon the loopiness is a way of testing a potential partner for emotional stability. If he over reacts to her loopiness she find him less attractive as a long termer. Maybe because if he over reacts to her, then he may over react to any children they may have. Kids being loopy in lots of ways(naturally). Maybe that's it.

You will often hear women say about their partners, "oh I can be crazy/hormonal/loopy, but he understands/loves me anyway". They expect their own loopiness and look to the guy for balance.

I will say I have found, that if you get a loopy moment from a woman(and it is a loopy moment, not the guy missing something obvious), ignoring it is by far the best policy. If you try to play the same game or engage it logically you're on a hiding to nothing.

I agree that it's not all women. Not at all. But it is a lot of them, especially younger(below 30) women. I would say in my experience it's damn near half of them, in the right circumstances.

AngryBadger wrote: »

My biggest personal peeve with women is the whole "guilt-for-sex" thing.

I personally think it's this(goes without saying generalisation alert just in case of the usual reponse of" Im not like that, grrrr);

most women like sex, want sex and want it more than they admit. Indeed they want it as much as men if not more so. It's often in a slightly different way. Men like the pure physicallity of it, while women it's more an overall thing and more emotional. I'm not saying women need love or any of that stuff, but their emotions like excitement, guilty pleasure etc are more in play.

This need and want is offset by societal guilt about it and their own reproductive worries re pregnancy(evolution holdover there). They have more to lose both socially and physically by doing the wild thing. That's where the guilt thing comes from I reckon. They have to justify it somehow or risk approbation by their peers.

Women are more driven by their emotions than men.(that one I'll stand by). They're also more emotionally fluid than men. While men are emotional and can be driven by them there are more filters between emotion and action than in women. Women if emotional will blurt out and react without as many checks and balances. You can see that with women and other women friends. They may have a fight where the most hurtful things are said and a week later are "best friends" again. I reckon men don't do this to nearly the same extent, because there is more threat of a dangerous physical response from another man.

Women are also more socially/emotionally aware and more socially competitive with each other than men are with each other. Women compare themselves to other women much more.

Throw this altogether and in the realms of men/women mixing all bets are off. Men wonder why they don't get women, women wonder why they don't get men. Both wonder how come others uglier/fatter/shorter/poorer do. Then if they do get a woman the men often have no clue as how they keep her happy and around, same goes for women.

A Primal Nut wrote:

Its the changing of the mind that I hate. One day she's mad about about you, her friends are telling you she likes you, you're practically all over each other. Next day she won't answer your phone/messages and you never hear from them again. With no explanation.

The explanation is simple. Nine times outa ten*, You did something that made her change her mind. When she decided to get hot and heavy with you, she clearly liked he look of you and could see herself hopping your bones down the line. Something changed her mind. It didn't come out of the blue, there was a reason, but it was subtle and not a reason you as a guy might think of.

The usual reason is that you got more emotional with her, more emotional than her with you. That made you look too easy. Things that are easily gotten are all too often undervalued. This is the case especially in the early stages. This is the case especially with women.

They get approached all the time, it's a sellers market, so they largely do the picking and choosing, so the second you approach her she's in more control than you. She knows what you want and she's deciding if she'll go for it. The thing is guys get the snog or even the legover and then think they've succeeded. Next time they meet the guy will expect the same, or start from the same level he left her at. Women will know this one. If the first night he gets to point b, then the next night he'll go straight to point b hoping for point c. Point a gets forgotten about. Emotional foreplay is as imprtant as physical and just as ignored all too often.

Women until you're in a stable relationship are still vetting you, even if it's subconsciously. Even in a stable relationship this goes on to a lesser degree. How many guys get dumped and say "I don't understand it, it was out of the blue, we were so happy etc." It wasn't out of the blue and while he may have been happy, she wasn't or she wouldn't have left. Simple as.

We are as alike as we are different, but we are different. These differences and the lack of knowledge or acknowledgement of those differences are why men say women are nuts and women say men are idiots. This doubles if sex is involved.

*The one time outa ten it's down to her trying to gain some social leverage out of the encounter. Making another woman jealous, making the guy she really wants jealous etc. Or she was drunk and you don't look so good a deal when she's sober.

AngryBadger wrote: »

So if one was to sum up your theory in two statements, one per gender, it might go a little something, like this;

Man: "YES! I just bust my nut, wait'll I tell the lads, WOOOOO!!! Man I can still smell it!!!"

Woman: "Well the actual penetration was great, but I could have done with more foreplay, and cuddles afterwards were sub par, also, why did he roar "SHAZAM" as we climaxed..."

Think the man one isn't far wrong... Add in "Damn she's cute. Lovely arse and seems interested. I do have a girlfriend so that kinda complicates things and I'm likely to be caught out. You know how women talk and I'm crap at lying. I think I'll drink more". NEXT MORNING. INTERIOR DAY "Oh oh, now I'm in trouble. Damn what was I thinking? Looks a bit ropey this morning too. God I hope the girlfriend doesn't find out. Cue him being guilty for weeks and her getting it out of him.....:D

The woman one I reckon might be, "He's come over I think he's OK, we'll see how it goes. Oh he's engaging me emotionally and at the same time not taking my usual shít. This is different. Wow I'm not sure where I stand so I'll try even harder to get him acting like the usual guy. Oh that's not working. I'm intrigued by this and I'm insecure now. God I feel such chemistry for this guy. Never felt like this. I do have a boyfriend so I'll tell this guy that to get it out there. He heard this but didn't react. This eases my conscience a bit. I think I'll drink more. NEXT MORNING. INTERIOR DAY "Oh oh that was a mistake. It was the drink and he was so charming. God he was great in bed too. My boyfriend ignores my needs, so although guilty I fully understand why this happened. It was their fault all along. Men are such pricks. Cue her keeping shtum and the boyfriend suspecting nothing....:D

Great post Wibbs. The only thing is, I find women are generally less will/capable of accomodating the differences between their personality/value system, and a mans. Whereas guys, (for whatever reason, I'm not trying to say we're these great moral creatures or anything), we seem to spend a huge amount of our time trying to accomodate womens whims. And when you allow for the fact that much fo what seems to drive women is almost industrial strength whimsical, that's a lot of investment on a guys aprt for very little return.

Again because of the sellers market. Men want women and have to work for it. Women know this so many will put men through hoops to weed out the saddos and little boys. Plus while they may not be as accommodating, women know men far better than men know women.

They have been studying us for longer and more deeply. From the time a woman hits puberty she's been dealing with one guy after the other trying to get somewhere. This builds knowledge of guys if only in the chat up arena.

Look at womens magazines. How to get a man. How to know he's the right man. Oh look how that totty from brookside has cellulite on the beach. Ha. How to keep a man. How to have orgasms. How to loose those thunder thighs if you can tear yourself away from the chinners for a night. How to dump a man. New styles from milan that you'll look crap in. How to pleasure a man. How to be the perfect hostess. Oh look a recipe for stuff you can't find in Tescos. What to look for in a man. How to know he's cheating and how to sneak through his inbox without leaving a trace. Followed by pages of ringtones and plastic surgery sites... Jeez something as popular (and as daft, though I'm the wrong audience) as sex and the city is all about men pretty much. Yes there's fashion and female bonding but it's pretty much all over men.

Look at mens magazines. First drive of the Lamborarari 5000 GtvXi 4x4 turbo Race spec in the south of france. Let's look at watches you can't afford. Jesus will you only look at the jugs of that brookside totty. bet she's rarin to go. Oh look she likes ordinary men(but is boning a premier league footballer) and she would call security if you looked at her. How to give a woman an orgasm. Lets advertise some pron sites. The new XYZ playbox 4000 GtvXi 4x4 turbo and how good the frame rate is. How to get a six pack in 2 weeks. Never gonna happen and you know it fat boy the only exercise you get is turning the pages of this magazine. Test drive of the new B&O 4000 GtvXi 4x4 turbo stereo. Tis fantastic but you'll have to sell your hovel and kidneys to afford the plug. New suits from milan, that you'll look crap in. More pics of that lassie off the telly whose name escapes, but jesus she's got great tits. Pictures of horrible snowboarding injuries. Followed by pages of ringtones, "home growwing", baldness cures and pron sites.

Spot the diff. Joke but women do put far more time, though and energy into relationships, both social and sexual.

I think it really boils down to both genders make the mistake that the other thinks like them(about this stuff). I reckon it's as simple as that.