Arsenal Transfer Rumours And General Chat

L'prof · 04-05-2008 08:40PM

Galvasean wrote: »

I missed the end of the game. I see Lehmann came on on 77 minutes. What was the reason for that?

Last home game for the club!

keano_afc · 04-05-2008 09:02PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

That would surprise me, do you have a link?

It was in the printed word my friend. I think Cesc only(!) earns about £45k a week, and Neville is one of the higher earners in the league.

leninbenjamin · 04-05-2008 09:17PM

would have thought Edelman's leaving might having opened up some more money seeing as he's a notorious cost cutter but no... d'ya know if i were Wenger, having been told the budget's been slashed despite the best season for the past 3-4 years, i'd be seriously considering my position... let's hope he's not.

OPENROAD · 04-05-2008 09:59PM

Some interesting press in the last few days regarding Edelman and how the club were now looking for someone who could concentrate more on the football side of things which Arsenal have lacked recently. As for Arsene leaving because of not having as much money to spend as had been suggested by the press, he wouln't even consider it imo. He has always stated that he will never break a contract and believe he will see his current one through, as for after that, well that is another days discussion. It has often been suggested that even if Arsene had a huge budget he would not spend it anyway.

Lets just wait and see what happens over the summer in terms of spending and players comming in, In Arsene we trust.

PHB · 04-05-2008 10:09PM

As a matter of interest what is utds current debt situation.

The best estimates put it at 650 and steady. The worst estimates put it at 800 million and rising rapidly.

I believe the former based on the figures, but we're just servicing interest currently, hoping for the credit crunch to ease up. Our net spend since the Glaizers have taken over has been about 35 million.
However most of those players have been bought with loans.

Arsenal are easily servicing their debt. The issue is about maintaining profits while servicing the debt.

patrickc · 04-05-2008 11:23PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7383314.stm
AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has claimed that Arsenal midfielder Mathieu Flamini is on the verge of signing for the Italian club.
"Flamini will arrive tonight in Milan and will sign a four-year contract," he said after Sunday's 2-1 win over Inter.
The French midfielder's contract with the Gunners expires at the end of this season - and manager Arsene Wenger has admitted he is wary Flamini will leave.
The 24-year-old is expected to undergo a medical at the San Siro on Monday.
Despite the offer of a new five-year deal from Arsenal, Flamini's future remains unresolved and both AC Milan and Juventus are reported to have been tracking the France international.
Following Arsenal's 1-0 win over Everton on Sunday, the Gunners' last home game of the season, Wenger conceded that he was not "super-confident" Flamini would still be with the club next season.
"Frankly, I don't know [if he is staying]," said Wenger.

"But if you ask me was I overall super-confident, I would say no. He has an offer on the table which is valid until tomorrow [Monday], then we will see.
"We have done what we had to do, it is now down to him to make a decision.
"My ideal solution is that he stays, so I am not happy if he goes - but we've done everything we can.
"We can't wait until July. You could lose players if they come on the market."
Meanwhile, Milan club owner Silvio Berlusconi has cast fresh doubt over the potential signing of Barcelona star Ronaldinho.
"I have always been doubtful over whether Ronaldinho is needed, at this point I really think we don't need him," he said.
The Italian club has agreed terms with the 28-year-old Brazilian playmaker but failed to settle on a mutually satisfactory transfer fee with Barcelona during preliminary talks

yet more discussion on it, he'll go it seems

Galvasean · 04-05-2008 11:50PM

I guess its pretty much done and dusted. Pity, Flamini and Fabregas were a great partnership. It really now looks like we missed out on Luka Mordric.

LuckyCharms · 05-05-2008 01:14AM

Current debt for Man Utd at the end of the 2007 financial year in june was £765m.£152m of payment in kind loans is included in this which is half of the ultra high interest loans the glaziers had taken out before the refinancing package in 2006.Of the 765m, 660 is related to the glazier takeover while the rest belongs to future player fees etc

gosplan · 05-05-2008 09:16AM

Galvasean wrote: »

I guess its pretty much done and dusted. Pity, Flamini and Fabregas were a great partnership. It really now looks like we missed out on Luka Mordric.

Makes Diarra's mid season choice look like a smart one too

Gonna be a real interesting summer

Mossy Monk · 05-05-2008 09:19AM

gosplan wrote: »

Makes Diarra's mid season choice look like a smart one too

Gonna be a real interesting summer

I do wonder if Diarra is now thinking to himself "bollocks"

gosplan · 05-05-2008 12:55PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I do wonder if Diarra is now thinking to himself "bollocks"

Yup, he would have played a lot of games in the run-in for Arsenal, would have had a hand in the champions league as well.

Don't think that would have done his chances of playing for France this summer any harm and the next game after summer would have been the champions league qualifier - which surely would have been his first game as first choice DMF.

On the other hand, he is in a FA cup final.

PHB · 05-05-2008 01:00PM

I would have thought it would be the other way around. Wenger will be unhappy he sold him and put his faith in Flamini and then Flamini ups and leaves. Diarra has been great for Portsmouth since he joined, is in the FA Cup final, and almost defo will leave in the summer to a bigger club.

anonymous_joe · 05-05-2008 01:06PM

Diarra and Flamini have both done very well for themselves.

Flamini'll almost certainly be making more money at Milan. He's playing football to earn a living, so what can you expect?

I can't see any other reason to leave Arsenal anyway.

Then again, if Wenger pulls off another coup and signs a replacement of equal ability (as the canny old fecker is wont to do) then L'Arse could easily be chasing for the Premiership again next season, with little to no disimprovement in the team.

Invincible · 05-05-2008 01:09PM

Wenger meant to be prepared to pay £12M for Niko Kranjcar as a replacement for Hleb,also Martins from Newcastle is mentioned.

PHB · 05-05-2008 01:11PM

Milan are in theory a bigger club than Arsenal. More history, bigger stadium, more money, bigger fanbase, etc. etc.

He's not just moving for money.
People do forget that Arsenal haven't won any trophies. A player is interested in two things, money and trophies. If he sees Milan as a better chance to win trophies, which isn't an unreasonable thing to think, then it makes some sense.

Wenger was always going to have huge trouble keeping together his team if they didn't win anything.

Just like if United didn't win anything this year, do you not think people like Ronaldo would be considering moving on?

p.s. Personally I think Flamini is overrated and not good enough to be first choice for Arsenal.

Mossy Monk · 05-05-2008 01:24PM

This is Gilberto Silva's chance to shine again.

Pepe LeFrits · 05-05-2008 03:43PM

Well he's got a year left to run on his contract so I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay now. If he could rediscover his form it could work out nicely as it would give Denilson and Song an extra year to develop into first team material.

I notice that youngguns has news that the U16s won the Atalanta cup, and Jack Wilshere was named player of the tournament - no surprise there. They beat Juventus 1-0, Chievo 3-1, Inter Milan 4-0, CSKA Moscow 6-0 and Juventus again on penalties. New signing Luke Freeman scored 4 goals, Benik Afobe 3 and Wilshere 2. Afobe looks an interesting prospect too, he's barely 15 and has a goal a game ratio in the U16s, and he scored four goals the other day as the U16s beat the Toulouse U17s 8-0. It'll be interesting to see over the next few years if the changes Wenger implemented to the academy a number of years ago will have had a positive effect on the number of top level players it produces.

Mr Alan · 05-05-2008 03:50PM

Who is the highest paid player at Arsenal? How much do they earn?

OPENROAD · 05-05-2008 04:01PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Who is the highest paid player at Arsenal? How much do they earn?

Think it is Gallas and Gilberto on approx £80k

Mr Alan · 05-05-2008 04:18PM

Flamini gone, agreed 4 year deal with Milan, on SSN just there. its official

mike65 · 05-05-2008 04:38PM

Is this a surprise? I was not aware of rumblings.

Mike.

L'prof · 05-05-2008 04:40PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Flamini gone, agreed 4 year deal with Milan, on SSN just there. its official

About time...turned into a good player, but if he doesn't want to stay good riddance! Why do we lose players to teams we knock out of the Champions League?

LuckyCharms · 05-05-2008 06:00PM

jasonorr wrote: »

About time...turned into a good player, but if he doesn't want to stay good riddance! Why do we lose players to teams we knock out of the Champions League?

Pretty simple i would have thought, Arsenal won nothing this year, looks like they won't be spending alot this summer, have no track record of buying the best players to win trophies while milan have some of the best players in the world, will be spending a huge amount in the summer rebuilding the team for the future.

Would you prefer to be part of that future in sunny italy or would you prefer to hang around in the hope the Wengers youngsters can win the Cl or league?

OPENROAD · 05-05-2008 06:13PM

Just watching Ian Wright top ten goals on Arsenal tv, wow he scored some great great goals.

aidan24326 · 05-05-2008 06:28PM

It's potentially a good time to join AC Milan, so I can see why he's made this choice. Milan have an ageing team which needs rebuilding but the key difference between them and Arsenal is that they won't hesitate to spend the money needed to get the club back on top. Expect to see a few big names heading there before the Summer is over. Though I'm a little surprised they went for Flamini. Good player but is he really that great? If it was Fabregas I'd understand.

Arsenal's reluctance to spend is holding them back and they will continue to lose players if they don't spend the money and bring in some proven class. I wouldn't be surprsied if Fabregas is tempted away by a big money offer aswell, if not this Summer then next. I'm sure Real are keeping tabs.

LuckyCharms · 05-05-2008 07:45PM

Not really surprised they went for him.Considering they basically got him on the cheap, all they had to do was give him an extra bit of cash in his wages and signing on fee as apposed to buying a player like him would be costing about 7mil.And if he doesnt work out , he will be a fine squad player for em or they can make some money off him and sell him.Win Win situation imo for them.

L'prof · 05-05-2008 07:53PM

LuckyCharms wrote: »

Pretty simple i would have thought, Arsenal won nothing this year, looks like they won't be spending alot this summer, have no track record of buying the best players to win trophies

Based on this season, we were only short in squad depth, but now that we've lost Flamini unless we buy an established player, we've taken a step backwards...again!

aidan24326 wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprsied if Fabregas is tempted away by a big money offer aswell, if not this Summer then next. I'm sure Real are keeping tabs.

I'm 100% (Sure why not 110% even as it's popular amongst Premiership players and managers) confident Cesc won't be leaving this summer, but I don't think he'll spend the rest of his career at Arsenal either!

Bounty Hunter · 05-05-2008 07:56PM

jasonorr wrote: »

Based on this season, we were only short in squad depth, but now that we've lost Flamini unless we buy an established player, we've taken a step backwards...again!

How about Gattuso? or do you think he only said he would like to move to the prem when it seemed Milan wouldent have Chapions league football. would be a perfect signing for Arsenal as far as im concerned.

OPENROAD · 05-05-2008 08:00PM

We just fell short this season, we were unbeaten at Home, lost just 3 games in the league, Utd or should I say Ronaldo have been exceptional this season, we have improved significantly from last season,which I am not in the least bit surprised, Flamini is a loss but I have faith he will be replaced maybe not by the super money signing some people appear to want as for Cesc, can't see him leaving for a few seasons but just like Ronaldo at utd will move on at some stage.

cson · 05-05-2008 08:01PM

Gattuso = Flamini

'cept he's 6 years older.

Not a good move imo.

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