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Ive got a bit of a semi....(Uefa Cup)

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Eirebear wrote: »
    However.

    I will defend to the very end the right for a British team to sing rule britannia at a game on British soil.

    How is this less acceptable to people from Ireland, who could easily listen to Celtic, many of whom have never set foot in Ireland, fans sing Amhran na bhFiann, in english with bastardized lyrics?

    EB, he never said it was less acceptable. He just said he switched channel when he heard it. Personally I believe they can sing what they want so long as it's not blatantly sectarian, and TBH I'm immune to Rangers songs at this stage - it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I've sung along to Follow Follow once or twice, just like WGS. :D

    I agree though that the English version of the Irish national anthem is puke, wish Celtic supporters wouldn't sing it. If they did, wish they'd sing it as Gaelige.

    I do think it's funny how so many fans can sing GSTQ when they hate England though. How can they hate England, but love the Queen? :confused: Mind you, they call us "tattie munchers" but have billboards advertising potatoes all over Ibrox and (presumably) enjoy spuds in all their varied forms themselves, so I guess double-standards are part of the Rangers mindset. :D

    Would love to know the lyrics for the bastardized Fields of Athenry though - have you got them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    PauloMN wrote: »
    EB, he never said it was less acceptable. He just said he switched channel when he heard it. Personally I believe they can sing what they want so long as it's not blatantly sectarian, and TBH I'm immune to Rangers songs at this stage - it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I've sung along to Follow Follow once or twice, just like WGS. :D

    I agree though that the English version of the Irish national anthem is puke, wish Celtic supporters wouldn't sing it. If they did, wish they'd sing it as Gaelige.

    I do think it's funny how so many fans can sing GSTQ when they hate England though. How can they hate England, but love the Queen? :confused: Mind you, they call us "tattie munchers" but have billboards advertising potatoes all over Ibrox and (presumably) enjoy spuds in all their varied forms themselves, so I guess double-standards are part of the Rangers mindset. :D

    Would love to know the lyrics for the bastardized Fields of Athenry though - have you got them?

    I know what he said Paul, and i wasnt really having a go at him as such...just pointing out the double standards that many Celtic fans use.
    (Its disgusting that you fly a Union Jack at Ibrox!)

    Im fairly immune to Celtic songs myself, I worked in a"Celtic minded" pub in glasgow for a couple of years and would regularly find myself walking home whistling "The Celtic Way" :mad:

    I dont tend to look on the Fields of Athenry as a Celtic song TBH, as for the bastardized version i take it you mean Fathers Advice?
    Its not a song i know the lyrics of, as the ones i do know offend me, but im sure i can find them.
    Ill PM them to you when i do.

    As for Tattie Munchers, Meh! its nothing more than a bit of banter IMO.
    Lets face it, plenty of scots went to Canada in order to pick tatties for a living......they became known as bluenoses!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    Pfft, its only scottish football;).

    The Premier League is where the party is at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Bump!

    Here we go again, Rangers european adventure continues, and if anyone feel like talking about it here ya go. (It can also be used for anyone wishing nasty injuries on players or even hoping they "die in their sleep" as the song suggests :p)

    Im a big bag of nerves once more, thomson should be back in midfield which is a massive boost, but i dont know how this one will go.

    If Rangers can keep the scores level after an hour i think well be in with a great chance, but if Mutu hits form then we could be royally buggered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    heh, thanks for the bump, the thread title made me laugh the second time too :)

    I reckon this will be the end of the road for Rangers, unfortunately. :(

    Although, as you said, if their anti-football (;)) can see them through for an hour or so, then the Italians will start to get antsy, no doubt.

    How many team busses are your lot bringing to Italy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Its going to be interesting today,can Bayern again comeback in life like against Getafe,sheesh,russians doing great this season although i am not impressed with some names in their squad they will play CL next season,i think they can make surpsrise today.I would also like more that Fiore go to the final and not Rangers and on the other hand i think Bayern-Rangers final can offer the most to see,so anyway i will watch both games, we'll see


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    DesF wrote: »
    heh, thanks for the bump, the thread title made me laugh the second time too :)

    I reckon this will be the end of the road for Rangers, unfortunately. :(

    Although, as you said, if their anti-football (;)) can see them through for an hour or so, then the Italians will start to get antsy, no doubt.

    How many team busses are your lot bringing to Italy?

    The Italians invented the concept of 'Anti-Football' in the form of Catannacio. Fiorentina are well used to teams playing for a nil all draw, and more than capable of breaking down dogged opposition, so replicating the tactics in Italy would be foolish IMO.

    You still haven't explained your grá for Rangers, other than just to be contrary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    You still haven't explained your grá for Rangers, other than just to be contrary.
    Do I need to explain to you? Am I answerable to you? Are you my mother?

    And so what if it IS just to be contrary. Would you have a major problem with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    DesF wrote: »

    How many team busses are your lot bringing to Italy?

    3, one for the playes and staff and 2 to park in the penalty area....;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    DesF wrote: »
    Do I need to explain to you? Am I answerable to you? Are you my mother?

    Easy Tiger, Its a discussion forum after all. Its just unusual for Irish folk, and especially ones whose own club were treated so badly by them, to cheer for that particular side. I simply asked.
    DesF wrote: »
    And so what if it IS just to be contrary. Would you have a major problem with that?

    Yes. Its childish and deliberate WUMming. Especially in the context of a week that a kid got murdered for being a Celtic fan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Especially in the context of a week that a kid got murdered for being a Celtic fan.

    Havnt heard about this one?

    Are you going to tell us about the big nasty evil Rangers fans again?

    If true, then its a disgusting act by whoever done it, but please dont try and use it to tar every single Rangers fan...or even people who just happen to not hate us all, with one brush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    and especially ones whose own club were treated so badly by them
    Like a good Irish Catholic, I have forgiven them for that. :rolleyes:

    Look, I simply hate Celtic. Rangers, being their biggest rivals, have found a soft spot in my heart.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Havnt heard about this one?

    Are you going to tell us about the big nasty evil Rangers fans again?

    If true, then its a disgusting act by whoever done it, but please dont try and use it to tar every single Rangers fan...or even people who just happen to not hate us all, with one brush.

    No, Ill save the 'evil' speech for the new song you have about ethnic cleansing... ;)

    A kid in Govan returning home from Parkhead got beaten and stabbed, wrong place, wrong time. I would bet the mortgage the dirt (arrested) that did this have never been to Ibrox. Its not a question of blame, and I certainly don't hold you or the Rangers support culpable, but the reality is a gang of guys purporting to be Gers murdered a Cetic fan in cold blood. I'm saying that Des should give over deliberatly trying to provoke Celtic fans like that until the kid is buried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,327 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    DesF wrote: »

    Look, I simply hate Celtic. Rangers, being their biggest rivals, have found a soft spot in my heart.

    Why do you simply hate Celtic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    DesF wrote: »
    Like a good Irish Catholic, I have forgiven them for that. :rolleyes:.

    Surely as a Shels fan, all other football allegiences flow from that?
    DesF wrote: »
    Look, I simply hate Celtic. Rangers, being their biggest rivals, have found a soft spot in my heart.

    I despise Liverpool. Not going to start cheering for Everton though. Weak logic, especially in the context of Rangers history and Shels place within in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    No, Ill save the 'evil' speech for the new song you have about ethnic cleansing... ;)

    A kid in Govan returning home from Parkhead got beaten and stabbed, wrong place, wrong time. I would bet the mortgage the dirt (arrested) that did this have never been to Ibrox. Its not a question of blame, and I certainly don't hold you or the Rangers support culpable, but the reality is a gang of guys purporting to be Gers murdered a Cetic fan in cold blood. I'm saying that Des should give over deliberatly trying to provoke Celtic fans like that until the kid is buried.

    Thats shocking, I honestly never heard anything about it and i hope they catch the scum that did it and lock them up for good.
    Although i have to say im also very surprised i havnt seen heard or read anyting about it.
    But on the same token, i doubt that it has anything to do with Des TBH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Why do you simply hate Celtic?

    Some LoI fans think if it wasnt for Celtic and their Irish support, they would be turning supporters away.

    Its easier than looking internally for why a league winning team in a city centre location were getting 1,200 crowds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Thats shocking, I honestly never heard anything about it and i hope they catch the scum that did it and lock them up for good.
    Although i have to say im also very surprised i havnt seen heard or read anyting about it.
    But on the same token, i doubt that it has anything to do with Des TBH

    They were caught immediatly.

    All I'm saying is that its an emotional time for Des to decide to be playing this game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    A kid in Govan returning home from Parkhead got beaten and stabbed, wrong place, wrong time. I would bet the mortgage the dirt (arrested) that did this have never been to Ibrox.
    Never been to Ibrox, and this happened in Glasgow. Therefore they are certainly not Rangers fans, so have nothing to do with this discussion.

    Why bring a murdered child into this anyway? Go on, asnwer that.

    Its not a question of blame, and I certainly don't hold you or the Rangers support culpable, but the reality is a gang of guys purporting to be Gers murdered a Cetic fan in cold blood.
    What about all the guys who "purport" to be Rovers fans going around starting on random people in town of a Friday evening.

    Oh sorry. It's not on that I associate these people with Rovers, but ok for you to associate child murdering with Rangers.

    :confused::confused:
    I'm saying that Des should give over deliberatly trying to provoke Celtic fans like that until the kid is buried.
    Get a grip.

    In mourning for the kid are you? Hopping on a plane to the funeral?

    If you are so fúcking sensitive, perhaps you should stop using the internet for a while, you know, a year or so, until you feel up to posting again.

    ffs.
    Why do you simply hate Celtic?
    Because of all the absolute scumbags who walk around my city wearing their jersies, barstool Celtic/Republican idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Im stuggling to find anything about this ONYD, do you have a link or anything as the only thing i can find relating to a murder is a 51 year old man who was beaten up in Govan on the 29th, by 3 21 year olds who were in court on tuesday.

    Glasgow being the city it is, murders of this nature dont always tend to make it into the news.

    But a murder of a child is a different story, especially when it is "related" to the old firm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,327 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    DesF wrote: »

    Because of all the absolute scumbags who walk around my city wearing their jersies, barstool Celtic/Republican idiots.

    You simply Celtic fans therefore you have a soft spot for Rangers fans :confused: Nothing to do with football then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Im stuggling to find anything about this ONYD, do you have a link or anything as the only thing i can find relating to a murder is a 51 year old man who was beaten up in Govan on the 29th, by 3 21 year olds who were in court on tuesday.

    Glasgow being the city it is, murders of this nature dont always tend to make it into the news.

    But a murder of a child is a different story, especially when it is "related" to the old firm.
    I'm sure he'll be along in a minute to tell us the childs name.

    Of course a child murder will make news. It would be all over Sky News ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    You simply Celtic fans therefore you have a soft spot for Rangers fans :confused: Nothing to do with football then?

    And Celtic fans "relationship" with St Pauli is completely about football yes?
    I also think he said he had a soft spot for rangers...not rangers fans....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    ONYD, i am in no way questioning your integrity on this, but so far i ihave only found two mentions of a murder around that time in Govan.

    Both of these have been by celtic fans suggesting that it may have been Rangers fans who have done it. One was in a Scotsman forum, the other on Yahoo Answers.

    Both involved a 51 year old man.

    Now while this is obviously sad, any murder is, there are no other suggestions relating it to Rangers "fans".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Eirebear wrote: »
    ONYD, i am in no way questioning your integrity on this,
    I am.

    ONYD, did a child actually get murdered in Galsgow this week?

    If it has upset you so much, please tell us the childs name, the day it happened, and why you are linking it to Rangers fans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Im stuggling to find anything about this ONYD, do you have a link or anything as the only thing i can find relating to a murder is a 51 year old man who was beaten up in Govan on the 29th, by 3 21 year olds who were in court on tuesday.

    Glasgow being the city it is, murders of this nature dont always tend to make it into the news.

    But a murder of a child is a different story, especially when it is "related" to the old firm.

    I'll dig out a link after work - this happened. I got the story originally from the Huddleboard, people knew the guy and the pub the three Gers fans drank in. Etims has it too. Late teens IIRC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    the pub the Gers drank in.
    What "Gers"?

    You said yourself they probably weren't Rangers fans.

    Why are you doing this?
    Late teens IIRC.
    Late teens?

    What, like 17,18,19?

    Hardly a "child murder" is it?

    Do you work for a tabloid paper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Im gonna put this down as a case of Chinese whispers for the moment.

    I find it hard to believe that even the most bitter of internet celtic fans would make this up in order to portray the evils of Rangers fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,327 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Eirebear wrote: »
    And Celtic fans "relationship" with St Pauli is completely about football yes?

    I am not sure, this is not about SP though
    I also think he said he had a soft spot for rangers...not rangers fans....

    He also said he simply hates Celtic.... not Celtic fans


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    I am not sure, this is not about SP though

    No, its about why football fans form allegiances and "soft spots" with other football teams and fans.
    He also said he simply hates Celtic.... not Celtic fans
    Fair point


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