Govt. closing "Early Houses"

FlutterinBantam · 25-04-2008 02:10PM #1

Big brother really coming down on us now,so there's a problem with kids drinking,and what do they do?? Close down the early houses.

Where can a person go now for a drink after a hard nights work.

Disgraceful I say. Don't let them away with it,it's not part of the problem.

Sherifu · 25-04-2008 02:12PM

More drink!

WindSock · 25-04-2008 02:12PM

My localest early house is only used by smelly old fishermen. Thats really unfair for them.

cornbb · 25-04-2008 02:15PM

The government don't really have a clue how to deal with problem drinking. Measures like this and reducing offie opening hours aint gonna do squat except piss responsible drinkers off. Kids need access to non-booze oriented activities and social outlets, adults who drink too much, start fights, drink drive, beat their wives etc need to cop the f*ck on and be dealt with by the law. Some retarted half-ass measure like making shops sell booze from behind a counter aint gonna achieve anything.

NoQuarter · 25-04-2008 02:17PM

how the hell am i gonna continue binge drinking into the early hours with no early houses!?!?

Doctor DooM · 25-04-2008 02:18PM

king-stew wrote: »

how the hell am i gonna continue binge drinking into the early hours with no early houses!?!?

Easy, just buy twice as much from the off license before 10 pm.

nomorebadtown · 25-04-2008 02:22PM

cornbb wrote: »

The government don't really have a clue how to deal with problem drinking.

qft

fucking gobshites grasping at straws as usual.

_feedback_ · 25-04-2008 02:27PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Big brother really coming down on us now,so there's a problem with kids drinking,and what do they do?? Close down the early houses.

Where can a person go now for a drink after a hard nights work.

Disgraceful I say. Don't let them away with it,it's not part of the problem.

That really is f*cking incredible ... They just don't have a notion what they are at. It's extremely unfair for those working folk you mention.

deisedevil · 25-04-2008 02:36PM

They really do have no idea.

Ron DMC · 25-04-2008 02:52PM

SDooM wrote: »

Easy, just buy twice as much from the off license before 10 pm.

10pm? Most offies open 'til 11. Don't tell me they're changing that too?

Andy-Pandy · 25-04-2008 02:59PM

The are indeed, pain in the hole as the off liscence across the road forom me opens till 12.30 on the weekends.

oblivious · 25-04-2008 03:05PM

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

10pm? Most offies open 'til 11. Don't tell me they're changing that too?

that and then some

Rob_l · 25-04-2008 03:43PM

Good this country is rife with alcohol related issues and trying to educate the public will do no good, so in that light reducing opening business hours is the only way forward.

Sure it is hard on some but its for the good of the majority

25-04-2008 03:57PM

Lets just bring in prohibition. It always seemed like so much fun in the movies.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-04-2008 04:01PM

Said it before, say it again: this is a societal problem, that society doesn't care enough about to want to change. Nothing to do with the govenment: when they take bad measures, we moan. When they take good measures, they moan. When they do nothing, we moan.

We like our teenages to be pissed and violent, amen.

Kintarō Hattori · 25-04-2008 04:04PM

Rob_l wrote: »

Good this country is rife with alcohol related issues and trying to educate the public will do no good, so in that light reducing opening business hours is the only way forward.

Sure it is hard on some but its for the good of the majority

Reducing opening hours ISN'T the way forward. I drink perhaps once a month and I can't tell you the last time I was drunk it was so long ago. When I do like a drink it's usually late in the evening or at night. I want a late opening off licence for when I feel in the mood.

The government's actions are all wrong, they have completely the wrong approach to dealing with alcohol. We need a more european, liberal way of dealing with the issue. Making alcohol seem 'tainted' or 'forbidden' only makes it more attractive to some. If we had 24 hour pubs (instead of everywhere shutting at the same time), freely available alcohol and a no-nonsense police force who take a zero tolerance attitude to drink on the streets I don't believe that we'd have the problems we do.

Let people access alcohol when and where they want and any mystery to it will soon disappear.

Ron DMC · 25-04-2008 04:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Lets just bring in prohibition. It always seemed like so much fun in the movies.

...the best damn pet shop in town!

Sam Vimes · 25-04-2008 04:11PM

cornbb wrote: »

The government don't really have a clue how to deal with problem drinking. Measures like this and reducing offie opening hours aint gonna do squat except piss responsible drinkers off. Kids need access to non-booze oriented activities and social outlets, adults who drink too much, start fights, drink drive, beat their wives etc need to cop the f*ck on and be dealt with by the law. Some retarted half-ass measure like making shops sell booze from behind a counter aint gonna achieve anything.

ah but you see there are two problems there:
1. it makes sense, therefore the government won't do it

2. it costs money. the government wants to do everything they can for every problem as long as it doesn't cost them any money

i have the perfect solution to underage drinking. stay with me here, it's a radical idea.

1. you introduce a law which says that a person cannot drink if they are below a certain age

2. you introduce some form of identity card, complete with a photo, which clearly indicates the age of a person.

3. you introduce a law that says that sellers of alcohol must ask people to produce this identification at the point of purchase in order to prove their age.

4. this is the really revolutionary part: you enforce those laws!!!

cue people calling me a mad man for suggesting something so mind blowingly original

Davidius · 25-04-2008 04:26PM

They should ban drink.

For the craic.

FlutterinBantam · 25-04-2008 04:39PM

They are headin that way:cool:

Steve · 25-04-2008 04:53PM

All the kids are at home in their beds pissed by 10pm so I don't think it'll make a difference.

I think this move is more to do with the government bending over and inserting KY for their buddies in the LVA by trying to restrict supermarkets and garages selling alcohol.

Maximilian · 25-04-2008 05:01PM

I think this is typical of FF. Don't solve the problem, just be damn sure you are seen to be trying to. How many kids do you see in early houses at 7 a.m.?

Another example, banning 10 packs of cigarettes. I don't have any stats to back up what I'm saying but I seriously doubt that the lack of 10 packs has stopped a single person from smoking. If anything, it has probably led to an increase in consumption. Just a bull**** measure for show.

Ron DMC · 25-04-2008 05:03PM

This makes me sad. I like alcohol. In fact I think I'll go to the pub...

Fighting Irish · 25-04-2008 05:12PM

Fu(k Ireland

Maximilian · 25-04-2008 05:18PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Fu(k Ireland

There's an idea. Beats doing stupid sponsored walks anyway.

seamus · 25-04-2008 05:18PM

Yeah, more half-assedness.

The 10pm closing for off licences is a good example of not thinking it through. At the moment, people will have a few drinks and if they feel they need more, they'll head down to the off licence. As I'm sure most of us have discovered, by the time you get to the point where you shouldn't drink any more, but really need to get some, the offie is already closed.

Now people will just buy twice as much before 10pm and get completely ****ed.

When I was a kid, I bought all of my drink before 8pm. They can change opening and closing hours of pubs and off licences all they like, but it'll just make people determined to drink more before/after the cut-off.

ART6 · 25-04-2008 05:34PM

It's the usual thing. Hit the s**t out of the majority for the sins of the minority because you can't sit in a quiet corner and think out a real answer. It's only a matter of time before the solution to the problem becomes a substantial increase on tax and duty on booze. Our elected representatives have already half killed off the pub trade with smoking bans and whatever, so soon we will be in the happy position where the only determined drinkers are wealthy people who can buy their whisky by the case and get stoned at home.

Dave! · 25-04-2008 05:58PM

Rob_l wrote: »

Good this country is rife with alcohol related issues and trying to educate the public will do no good, so in that light reducing opening business hours is the only way forward.

Sure it is hard on some but its for the good of the majority

No it's not, cos it will make no f*cking difference

cornbb wrote: »

The government don't really have a clue how to deal with problem drinking.

QFT

oblivious · 25-04-2008 05:59PM

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

This makes me sad. I like alcohol. In fact I think I'll go to the pub...

Don't do it, thats just what they want you to do:p

chopperbyrne · 25-04-2008 06:19PM

This isn't going to cost the government much money to do, but how much will be lost on lack of alcohol sales?

How many licensed sellers will go out of business because of this?

In the long run, this will cost them more than it would to enforce the laws we already have.

AARRRGH · 25-04-2008 06:21PM

The vast majority of people do not drink in moderation. They can't stop after 1 or 2. They want to keep drinking until they get tired or the pubs close.

Have you ever been in an early house? They're not full of fishermen or miners coming home from work. They're full of freaks and alcos.

I used to believe in the idea of "let people do whatever they want" and "tackle the root cause of the problem", but I have accepted -

1. Most people are stupid and selfish so will do whatever they want anyway.
2. Restrictions are a good idea while you are attempting to tackle the root of the problem. The Government are planning to tackle the root of our alcohol problem. In the meantime, they want to do the second best thing which is to restrict alcohol consumption.

The reality is excessive alcohol consumption is a serious problem in this country, and no one is going to stop doing it by asking them nicely. Restrictions are the only option at the moment.

In the UK, they introduced 24 hour pubs - that has been a total disaster: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/03/nbooze103.xml

The reality is we are not too culturally dissimilar to the Brits, so it makes sense that if we have shorter off licence and pub opening hours, we'll have less problems.

I am not a retard, so I am able to go to the off licence before 10 pm, and most people would agree drinking at 8 in the morning is not healthy.

Govt. closing "Early Houses"

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