New drinking laws

token56 · 23-04-2008 03:42PM #1

Minister for justice is introducing new drinking laws
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0423/alcohol.html

I welcome them for the most part but I find this part hilarious

"The gardaí will also be able to test pubs and other outlets by sending in underage people to try to buy drink to expose breaches of the law."

MrJoeSoap · 23-04-2008 03:44PM

token56 wrote: »

I welcome them for the most part but I find this part hilarious

"The gardaí will also be able to test pubs and other outlets by sending in underage people to try to buy drink to expose breaches of the law."

They do it with cigarettes, makes complete sense with drink too.

godtabh · 23-04-2008 03:46PM

token56 wrote: »

Minister for justice is introducing new drinking laws
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0423/alcohol.html

I welcome them for the most part but I find this part hilarious

"The gardaí will also be able to test pubs and other outlets by sending in underage people to try to buy drink to expose breaches of the law."

Why?

Sangre · 23-04-2008 03:48PM

10pm off license closing time? Would they ever just fúck off.

makotest · 23-04-2008 03:50PM

Off licenses closed by 10!! thats the most stupid thing I ever heard. why should the government decide when I can buy alcohol, I should get it at 5 in the morning if I want, like every other normal country

pigeonbutler · 23-04-2008 03:50PM

Bear in mind, this is just the Heads of the bill. It'll be a while before anything is enacted and changes might happen between now and then.

Sam Vimes · 23-04-2008 03:51PM

Sangre wrote: »

10pm off license closing time? Would they ever just fúck off.

+ 1 million. wtf does the closing time have to do with underage drinking?

how about they enforce the current laws re ID first before introducnig new ones that don't combat f*ck all

CountingCrows · 23-04-2008 03:51PM

Supermarkets also have to keep alcohol in a special area which is structurally separated from the rest of the premises. More Bullsh*t

froosh69 · 23-04-2008 03:52PM

i think its actually fair enogh, to be honest...especially the CCTV becoming a requirement.

CountingCrows · 23-04-2008 03:53PM

makotest wrote: »

Off licenses closed by 10!! thats the most stupid thing I ever heard. why should the government decide when I can buy alcohol, I should get it at 5 in the morning if I want, like every other normal country

If you want to buy alcohol to drink at home after 10pm you'll have to go to the pub to buy it first :eek:

token56 · 23-04-2008 03:55PM

I just have an image of the Guards sending some teenager into a night club, teenager gets drink and knocks it back and runs off.

I suppose I wasn't laughing at the premise behind it, anything which can help limit underage drinking is helpful. I should have made my reasons for finding it funny better understood sorry.

Sam Vimes · 23-04-2008 03:55PM

article wrote:

He said some prompting by the Government may assist but the general attitude to alcohol needed to change, in order to progress the situation.

who says? does Mr McHugh think he's my mother or something?

i'm an adult and i'll drink what i want when i want

Sam Vimes · 23-04-2008 03:57PM

CountingCrows wrote: »

Supermarkets also have to keep alcohol in a special area which is structurally separated from the rest of the premises. More Bullsh*t

oh no that makes perfect sense. didn't you know until their 18th birthday, teenagers are incapable of finding lane 7 in a supermarket :rolleyes:

and in the blanchardstown centre, the dunnes off licence is in a separate part just to the left of the entrance. people under 18 are much like derek zoolander. they can't turn left and therefore will not be tempted by the alcohol

23-04-2008 03:58PM

Sangre wrote: »

10pm off license closing time? Would they ever just fúck off.

A lame attempt to get people to go back to the pubs.

CountingCrows · 23-04-2008 04:00PM

Sangre wrote: »

10pm off license closing time? Would they ever just fúck off.

Right time to hit the streets in protest. The farmers are out every time a bird sh!ts on their land so I reckon its time us drinking folk to REBEL!

Holsten · 23-04-2008 04:00PM

CCTV in clubs = good.

The rest = bollox.

If the 10pm thing did happen I'd just stockpile a good amount of drink in my house.

Rb · 23-04-2008 04:01PM

Wow, wtf at closing offlicences at 10pm?

I like the CCTV idea, the part about supermarkets having to have the alcohol in a structurally separate area is just retarded though.

It's so sick that people pay huge amounts of their income in tax to pay these guys when they're doing such a f*cking shít job of it. What a waste of money. A f*cking 3rd year could come up with easier and more effective ideas than this f*cking waster.

token56 · 23-04-2008 04:03PM

CountingCrows wrote: »

Right time to hit the streets in protest. The farmers are out every time a bird sh!ts on their land so I reckon its time us drinking folk to REBEL!

Lol I can see that going well.

Mossy Monk · 23-04-2008 04:05PM

Holsten wrote: »

CCTV in clubs = good.

The rest = bollox.

What he said. I find these changes to be hillarious.

I can see no way in that it will help prevent underage drinking. Heavy fines for the people who sell the drink to youngsters would be more effective. And seeing as buying alcohol under the age of 18 is against the law why not punish those caught buying or consuming it.

Naos · 23-04-2008 04:05PM

CCTV and Underage spot checks I agree with.

The special areas for alcohol in supermarkets and off-license closing at 10 = nanny state.

I do understand that CCTV could be deemed as nanny state, but I'd view that as added protection/a deterrent for crime.

ojewriej · 23-04-2008 04:06PM

Sam Vimes wrote: »

+ 1 million. wtf does the closing time have to do with underage drinking?

how about they enforce the current laws re ID first before introducnig new ones that don't combat f*ck all

They want to appear that they are doing something, and it's much cheaper to make stricter laws that to enforce existing ones. That's the simple truth.

Sam Vimes · 23-04-2008 04:08PM

Naos wrote: »

I do understand that CCTV could be deemed as nanny state, but I'd view that as added protection/a deterrent for crime.

i don't see cctv as nanny state tbh. big brother maybe, but not nanny state.

makotest · 23-04-2008 04:09PM

it is just stupid way to get people back into pubs, I fckin hate this government, I cant wait when it goes broke

Sam Vimes · 23-04-2008 04:10PM

ojewriej wrote: »

They want to appear that they are doing something, and it's much cheaper to make stricter laws that to enforce existing ones. That's the simple truth.

its cheaper to do nothing than spend all the time, effort and money on new laws that won't actually do anything. it's not like they're fooling anyone

token56 · 23-04-2008 04:10PM

CCTV is acceptable I think, it can help with alot more than underage drinking

ojewriej · 23-04-2008 04:12PM

Sam Vimes wrote: »

its cheaper to do nothing than spend all the time, effort and money on new laws that won't actually do anything. it's not like they're fooling anyone

I think they are fooling a lot of people to be honest with you. Drinking laws is not the only issue they approach this way after all, and yet they are back in power.

Davidius · 23-04-2008 04:22PM

Ah sure it's only drink, not like it's anything important. The 10pm thing seems fair enough. You should all be at home then, it's nearly your bed time. =D

Wazdakka · 23-04-2008 04:22PM

This is madness...

CCTV.. Grand, thats entirely reasonable.
What the hell is with the rest of it tho?

What exactly are they trying to achieve with all this?

Reduced underage drinking?
Social disorder?
People drinking cans on the side of the road, getting wasted, messing up the place, picking fights with each other then urinating on bus stops?

These new laws don't actually help with any of these FFS..
Just another example of this country's mentality that, to combat a problem and look like your doing something, you remove more of the general populations liberties in an attempt to babysit the few and the bold into doing what you want.

Really annoys the piss out of me :mad:

Naos · 23-04-2008 04:36PM

Sam Vimes wrote: »

i don't see cctv as nanny state tbh. big brother maybe, but not nanny state.

I agree, bad choice of wording on my behalf.

Sam Vimes · 23-04-2008 04:42PM

ojewriej wrote: »

I think they are fooling a lot of people to be honest with you. Drinking laws is not the only issue they approach this way after all, and yet they are back in power.

yeah. i thought about putting in the qualifier "except the most stupid people in our society, ie fianna fail voters"

all the stars · 23-04-2008 04:42PM

froosh69 wrote: »

i think its actually fair enogh, to be honest...especially the CCTV becoming a requirement.

yeah - cctv good idea... but , i mean - nothing is gonna stop the youngsters bar we enslave the hoooo - ers!!! hahahah evil plan comes toghether nicel

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