Making your name Irish

BlitzKrieg · 17-04-2008 05:59PM

but i thought we didnt want them taking our jobs

Pherekydes · 17-04-2008 05:59PM

rb_ie wrote: »

Ugh, I hate these bunch of tossers.

Micmclo: I've heard from a number of people that their kids are going to Gaelscoils purely so they're not educated with foreign children.

Here's a tosser telling you that my kids are educated through Irish, purely because the wife and I want them to. My youngest has a friend called Chung. Sound Irish?

A lot of foreign parents don't want their children educated alongside Irish kids. They go to Muslim schools and the like.

Tosser signing off.

Caoimhín · 17-04-2008 06:00PM

Fashion and snobbery.
that is all.

Pherekydes · 17-04-2008 06:02PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

...until they try and get a job somewhere other than Poland, the Aran Islands or Dingle.

Yep, nobody from the Aran Is has ever gotten a job outside the Gaeltacht. Ever.

misslt · 17-04-2008 06:04PM

I'd love to change my name to Irish but it means 'daughter of the priest' -good joke! I probably will in time and keep it so when I get married.

It only annoys me when the people can't speak Irish..using their heritage as a fashion accessory. :rolleyes:

biko · 17-04-2008 06:39PM

micmclo wrote: »

David McWilliams explained it all well in the Pope's Children

Funny, I read this article in the Boston Globe

mikemac · 17-04-2008 06:42PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

...until they try and get a job somewhere other than Poland, the Aran Islands or Dingle.

Dingle??
The official name is Daingean Uí Chúis ;
It was changed a year or two ago

dsmythy · 17-04-2008 06:47PM

rb_ie wrote: »

Micmclo: I've heard from a number of people that their kids are going to Gaelscoils purely so they're not educated with foreign children. It's a trend that's picking up speed as time goes on and I'm sure this is the only reason that people are doing it as not many people could give a f*ck about the Irish language these days.

No ifs about it. Parents are sending their children to gaelscoileanna or english speaking schools where there are less non-Irish kids.

Why would you want your children to be taught in a school where half the students in the class don't speak the same language as your kid when a mile up the road lies another school where the figure is more like 10%.

I havn't got a young one myself but i know which one i'd choose if i had that choice.

Stephen · 17-04-2008 06:48PM

Eamonn O'Cuiv seems to be the only one that calls it that.

17-04-2008 06:49PM

misslt wrote: »

I'd love to change my name to Irish but it means 'daughter of the priest' -good joke! I probably will in time and keep it so when I get married.

It only annoys me when the people can't speak Irish..using their heritage as a fashion accessory. :rolleyes:

Macsaggart (sp) could also mean the priest's servant, therefore it possibly means daughter of the priest's servant.

starn · 17-04-2008 06:50PM

My last name is of Norman origin. So has no Irish version. Its quite an unusual name. In primary school our names on the roll where in Irish. I cant understand how the name can suddenly become Irish by just adding a Ni, a O and a fada. Thought it was just ****in stupid.

17-04-2008 06:50PM

Das Kitty wrote: »

My intended has an Irish surname, I've told him I'll only take the English equivalent because the Irish one gives me the initials MUC, or MUiC, so pig or pigs. No thanks.

Plus his English surname is money.

Now this I don't understand.
Most people who take their intendeds name, site having the same family name as the reason.
Do you just really hate yours?

djpbarry · 17-04-2008 06:54PM

Slow coach wrote: »

A lot of foreign parents don't want their children educated alongside Irish kids. They go to Muslim schools and the like.

Yeah, because all the foreigners are Muslim :rolleyes:. As far as I am aware, there are only two Islamic (primary) schools in the entire country. Besides, according to the 2006 census, 25% of Muslims in Ireland are Irish.

Slow coach wrote: »

Yep, nobody from the Aran Is has ever gotten a job outside the Gaeltacht. Ever.

If they didn't speak English, then no, they probably didn't.

micmclo wrote: »

Dingle??
The official name is Daingean Uí Chúis ;
It was changed a year or two ago

Actually, the name was changed to Dingle/Daingean Uí Chúis.

L1011 · 17-04-2008 07:03PM

Would make my name EVEN MORE pretentious, having an untranslatable Irish first name (which I believe I share with the OP) and an Irish middle name too. I'm from a gaelthacht though, so that might explain it.

I can't speak Irish, however...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-04-2008 07:09PM

Slow coach wrote: »

Yep, nobody from the Aran Is has ever gotten a job outside the Gaeltacht. Ever.

True... there is a huge demad for people who don't speak English in Dublin

mikemac · 17-04-2008 07:13PM

MYOB, how is that possible if you don't mind me asking?

I thought people in Gaeltacht areas have to pass tests if they moved in. I seem to remember an people couldn't move into an apartment block in Spiddal, Co. Galway as they had no Irish. Big news at the time a few years back

And even if you grew up there I would have thought all people in such an area could speak Irish, would it not be strange down the pub or shop if you can't understand the locals talking between themselves?
They could even have been talking about you :eek:

BlitzKrieg · 17-04-2008 08:41PM

having an untranslatable Irish first name (which I believe I share with the OP) and an Irish middle name too.

try an irish first name (also untranslatable) and 3 irish middle names (though I guess they can be translated but they were given to me in irish and they are irish on all my ids)

L1011 · 17-04-2008 09:29PM

micmclo wrote: »

MYOB, how is that possible if you don't mind me asking?

I thought people in Gaeltacht areas have to pass tests if they moved in. I seem to remember an people couldn't move into an apartment block in Spiddal, Co. Galway as they had no Irish. Big news at the time a few years back

And even if you grew up there I would have thought all people in such an area could speak Irish, would it not be strange down the pub or shop if you can't understand the locals talking between themselves?
They could even have been talking about you :eek:

I'm *FROM* a Gaeltacht area, I never moved there - my ancestors did a long time before we had an Irish government to care about the language!

And nobody speaks Irish there unless the grant man or the college students are around anyway. If someone came in to the pub talking about you in Irish nobody else would really be able to understand them...

My mother chose the names ironically - and she's from Dublin. My surname also more than doubles in length in Irish...

truecrippler · 17-04-2008 09:30PM

Just stick an 'ailte' at the end of your name.

truecripplerailte. mmm nice.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-04-2008 09:41PM

Ikky pooailte?

truecrippler · 17-04-2008 09:46PM

See, ya got it. Forgot the No.2 in your name, but I won't complain.

djpbarry · 17-04-2008 10:23PM

dsmythy wrote: »

Why would you want your children to be taught in a school where half the students in the class don't speak the same language as your kid when a mile up the road lies another school where the figure is more like 10%.

Either scenario is highly unlikely, considering that more than 96% of all under-15's in Ireland are from English speaking countries (according to the 2006 census).

Lockstep · 17-04-2008 10:27PM

rb_ie wrote: »

Micmclo: I've heard from a number of people that their kids are going to Gaelscoils purely so they're not educated with foreign children. It's a trend that's picking up speed as time goes on and I'm sure this is the only reason that people are doing it as not many people could give a f*ck about the Irish language these days.

He's right IMHO,

My ma is a sub in a school where nearly all the white kids are travellers, the parents send their kids to gaelscoils as it's assured of being nice and middle class/

Ofcourse, there are a few token funky representatives from the minorities just to show how "right on" they are.

mikemac · 17-04-2008 10:32PM

djpbarry wrote: »

Either scenario is highly unlikely, considering that more than 96% of all under-15's in Ireland are from English speaking countries (according to the 2006 census).

I'd like to see figures for Balbriggan, Co. Dublin where the over-subscribed Catholic schools couldn't admit non-nationals so admist the cries of racism a new school was set-up which is almost exclusivly used by non-nationals.
It wasn't racism it was lack of planning

Same thing happens in many other areas.
It's true that the government have put extra resources into primary schools but these are often teachers for people whose first language is not language is not English nevermind Irish.

rb_ie speaks the truth, many parents put their children in a Gaelscoil so they won't have many non-national children though of course there are some.
And tbh if I had a child I'd do the same because the Irish language is something to be proud of and of course if a sizable percentage of your child's class can't speak English or Irish it's going to slow down everyone

Lockstep · 17-04-2008 10:37PM

Know what I really love?

When women call themselves
O'something.

Genius.

Das Kitty · 17-04-2008 11:04PM

Moonbaby wrote: »

Now this I don't understand.
Most people who take their intendeds name, site having the same family name as the reason.
Do you just really hate yours?

Nope, he goes by his English name for the most part anyway, only on official forms etc does he use the Irish version, same with his family.

It's not uncommon.

Quality · 17-04-2008 11:06PM

I married an O. Now my initials are JOK.

I think I might stick to my maiden name:D.

truecrippler · 17-04-2008 11:22PM

Consider yourself lucky, my initials spell GOB... dads spell MOB... brothers spell DOB, well he is stupid so it suits him.

CyberGhost · 17-04-2008 11:31PM

ojewriej wrote: »

I changed my name to the Irish version. Back home I used to be know as just "jewriej".

I heard that too, some school master was talking about it on the Right Hook.
I wonder how much truth there is to it.

And if it's true, I wouldn't necessary call it ignorant or racist straight away. In many schools, teachers do have to spend more time with children who have little English, so the have less time for other pupils. I wouldn't blame parents for trying to get the best education they can get for their children.

Jewriej? that means Jewish in Russian.

ojewriej · 17-04-2008 11:34PM

CyberGhost wrote: »

Jewriej? that means Jewish in Russian.

It sure does. I use it for a reason.

Making your name Irish

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