Women are ruined by 21/22 yrs old?

The_B_Man · 17-04-2008 01:58PM #1

Guys,
What do ya reckon?

I'll elaborate.

There are a lot of females out there, nice females, who have had long term boyfriends who have dumped them (or vice versa).

This tends to leave them scared to get into anything serious, or to commit, for fear of getting very badly hurt again.

So, us blokes go out, meet a girl or two, as you do, only to discover she has been badly hurt. She still seems nice enough though. If you pursue it further, on either a couple of dates, or a casual thing(F**k buddy), you realise that they are, in fact, mental, based solely on the mental anguish received when said previous long term relationship ended. This may be permanent, but usually only lasts a couple of years. Also, the level of mental-ness is based on how recent the break-up was.

I always wondered why ya see 30 yr old blokes goin for 18/19/20 yr old girls, but now I know!!

Has anyone else any opinions of this? It seems to be all the decent women who actually are ruined, coz all the headwreckers couldnt get a fella to ruin them in the first place!

lol and I'm not jsut sayin this to get a reaction!! In my opinion, younger girls are much easier to get on with than 21/22 yr old, post-relationship girls as they havent been treated like crap by men. Whereas 21/22 yr olds have been through it all, have experienced the pr*cks and have lost all faith in mankind, so are less open, and can basically be pure bitches, or completely mental!!

17-04-2008 02:04PM

The_B_Man wrote: »

Guys,
What do ya reckon?

I'll elaborate.

There are a lot of females out there, nice females, who have had long term boyfriends who have dumped them (or vice versa).

This tends to leave them scared to get into anything serious, or to commit, for fear of getting very badly hurt again.

So, us blokes go out, meet a girl or two, as you do, only to discover she has been badly hurt. She still seems nice enough though. If you pursue it further, on either a couple of dates, or a casual thing(F**k buddy), you realise that they are, in fact, mental, based solely on the mental anguish received when said previous long term relationship ended. This may be permanent, but usually only lasts a couple of years. Also, the level of mental-ness is based on how recent the break-up was.

I always wondered why ya see 30 yr old blokes goin for 18/19/20 yr old girls, but now I know!!

Has anyone else any opinions of this? It seems to be all the decent women who actually are ruined, coz all the headwreckers couldnt get a fella to ruin them in the first place!

lol and I'm not jsut sayin this to get a reaction!! In my opinion, younger girls are much easier to get on with than 21/22 yr old, post-relationship girls as they havent been treated like crap by men. Whereas 21/22 yr olds have been through it all, have experienced the pr*cks and have lost all faith in mankind, so are less open, and can basically be pure bitches, or completely mental!!

I think women are only useful when I am getting sexual gratification off them.;)

chopperbyrne · 17-04-2008 02:05PM

I like sandwiches.

Ginny · 17-04-2008 02:06PM

Silly question IMHO.
Now at 29 I am way more copped on then I was at 21/22, I've gone through crappy break-ups but I've learnt and grown from them.
Everyone male/female reacts differently to break-ups, tarring one section of the population with such a view is slightly immature, IMO.

Rob_l · 17-04-2008 02:07PM

Eh well eh ok I too like sandwiches

g'em · 17-04-2008 02:08PM

The_B_Man wrote: »

In my opinion, younger girls are much easier to get on with than 21/22 yr old, post-relationship girls as they havent been treated like crap by men. Whereas 21/22 yr olds have been through it all, have experienced the pr*cks and have lost all faith in mankind, so are less open, and can basically be pure bitches, or completely mental!!

Yep, I'd agree. You can exptrapolate it further than that though. The bitchiness only begins to start at 21/22 at which time the mental:age ratio increases rapidly until it peaks around the mid-30's stage. After this time the looks start to fade and a woman realises that she can't rely on beauty alone to get by and the head-wrecking mentalness starts to slowly subside. As the years go by the bell-curve takes form and by the time middle-age sets in a woman is too ugly and too old to warrant being mental and throws a leg over anything with a penis.

True story. Ask yore ma.

Dudess · 17-04-2008 02:09PM

Lol g'em!

But seriously folks: Yeah, I was very hurt at 19 but it didn't turn me into a mental case, I just became cautious. It's amazing though how much it can affect you. I'm nearly 30 now and I still have an absolute terror of being hurt.

My mate was utterly ripped apart by a guy at 21 (with him four years, he started seeing someone else behind her back) then she was in another relationship between 24 and 28 which ended fairly civilly, but all the feelings from the first one came flooding back. She's adamant she won't bother with men ever again. It has turned her a bit crazy. Even when it comes to casual dates, one-night stands etc she can get very paranoid and over-analytical.

marylou82 · 17-04-2008 02:14PM

GinnyJo wrote: »

Silly question IMHO.
Now at 29 I am way more copped on then I was at 21/22, I've gone through crappy break-ups but I've learnt and grown from them.
Everyone male/female reacts differently to break-ups, tarring one section of the population with such a view is slightly immature, IMO.

I agree fully.100%

CKrules · 17-04-2008 02:15PM

B Man,

I'm sure that you're not one of those guys that has "damaged" any girls.

Model bloke eh???

Maybe it's people like who that make girls the way they are.

stovelid · 17-04-2008 02:15PM

What you really mean is when they leave puberty, they're immune to your lame chat ups.

tallaght01 · 17-04-2008 02:18PM

GinnyJo wrote: »

Silly question IMHO.
Now at 29 I am way more copped on then I was at 21/22, I've gone through crappy break-ups but I've learnt and grown from them.
Everyone male/female reacts differently to break-ups, tarring one section of the population with such a view is slightly immature, IMO.

Immature me gee.

The boy has a point. All the nutjobs think they'be grown and learned from past relationships

I was initially inclined to disagree with the OP, but I've met the birds he's brought home, and they were all crazy*

*They were much crazier after he'd dated them, too

Sherifu · 17-04-2008 02:18PM

The same can happen to guys. It's more the situation and how the person handles it. Some can brush it off, it haunts others.

Jigsaw · 17-04-2008 02:20PM

Man I can see the point your making here but way too much generalisation there. Blokes can be just as bad, and I say that as a bloke.

Dudess · 17-04-2008 02:21PM

CKrules wrote: »

B Man,

I'm sure that you're not one of those guys that has "damaged" any girls.

Model bloke eh???

Maybe it's people like who that make girls the way they are.

But you don't know B Man either, so let's not get personal.

Ginny · 17-04-2008 02:22PM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Immature me gee.

The boy has a point. All the nutjobs think they'be grown and learned from past relationships

I was initially inclined to disagree with the OP, but I've met the birds he's brought home, and they were all crazy*

*They were much crazier after he'd dated them, too

Well GinnyJo thinks she's grown and GinnyJo agrees, but it might be the medication.

Adam · 17-04-2008 02:24PM

This is all bull!

Not the original point, I quite agree in fact! But women are not ruined by men. If a girl of 17/18 gets into a serious relationship at that age she should not be naive enough to think it's going to last forever! If she wants it to, and it does, brilliant! But this does not generally happen.

So women are not being ruined by men, they are ruining themselves.

Dudess · 17-04-2008 02:30PM

Yeah, that's true. But it's one thing if it just fizzles out, quite another to get hurt due to, say, infidelity.

Sleepy · 17-04-2008 02:39PM

Most Irish women are ruined at 21/22 years of age alright but it's not by breakups, it's by their fathers' treating them like little princesses who have the sun shining out of their arses.

justsomebloke · 17-04-2008 02:42PM

Dudess wrote: »

But seriously folks: Yeah, I was very hurt at 19 but it didn't turn me into a mental case,

just remember self diagnoses can often be wrong;)

watna · 17-04-2008 02:44PM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Immature me gee.

The boy has a point. All the nutjobs think they'be grown and learned from past relationships

I was initially inclined to disagree with the OP, but I've met the birds he's brought home, and they were all crazy*

*They were much crazier after he'd dated them, too

You have a gee! :eek::eek:

When did that happen?

Adam · 17-04-2008 02:46PM

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah, that's true. But it's one thing if it just fizzles out, quite another to get hurt due to, say, infidelity.

True, but the same can be true on either side of the spectrum.

Guys tend to get less emotionally attached at that age, and take a break of better. The other side of that coin of course is that because guys are less emotionally attached at that age, they are more likely to be the ones slutting about!

It's a vicious cirlce. Like :pac:

Hellm0 · 17-04-2008 02:47PM

Anyone can become damaged goods, just some take to neurosis better than others. I would say there is a greater chance of bitchiness/hatred for the opposite sex though from women as generally(just so you know I'm generalizing) in my experience women tend to form irrational vendetta's easier than men.

That said of course they may not always be irrational(if someone is hurt it is accepted that they should feel cautious next time) however men just don't have the luxury of being the chased sex.

Of course, men are prone to other forms of weirdness and instability however when it comes to relationship's I do honestly think that women get away with well more, due in no small part to the fact that men want them and plenty of men are willing to overlook some facet's of a girl's personality if they are attractive whereas men with emotional complications find themselves ostracized in pretty much any social setting(depending of course upon how it affects them, but as we all know men have to work alot harder to get their leg over than women and any flaw can be a deal breaker).

connundrum · 17-04-2008 02:47PM

Mirror wrote: »

This is all bull!

No, this is a bull!

Mirror wrote: »

So women are not being ruined by men, they are ruining themselves.

QFT! And its not just women, I know several guys who have a deep seeded distrust for wimmins due to bad relationships.

It technically isn't the woman's fault there, as its the weak man who lets the situation change his outlook on all wimmins. You have a bad relationship/experience - get over it. Not everyone is a cnut!

RedXIV · 17-04-2008 02:54PM

I'd LIKE to disagree with this on moral grounds but my best mate, while not a bad bloke, can't help but turn every g/f he ever had nuts. some stalked him afterwards, others tried to turn legions of people against him. the latest one he broke it off with appeared on his door step one day demanding to be let in to the house. women do tend to go crazy after him at least anyway

Adam · 17-04-2008 02:55PM

connundrum wrote: »

No, this is a bull!

And a fine one at that!

Dudess · 17-04-2008 02:56PM

Connundrum of course not every one's a cnut, but it's really hard not to be distrustful if you've had a very bad experience. Mine was: I was 19, he was 29, I was in love with him, thought he was in love with me. It was only a few months but I had never felt so happy... and then I find out he was married. Of course not all guys are like that but when you've been burned... it's a tough one.

DarkJager · 17-04-2008 02:57PM

Its not relationships that are ruining women, its all this celebrity sh1t they are constantly getting brainwashed with. Every woman in a club nowadays seems to think she's fcuking Beyonce and they all look at you as if you're a rapist when you try to start a conversation with them. I just tend to ignore them now, my interest in Irish females being practically non existent. There are just so many gorgeous foreign women here now who have a much more mature and less egotistical view on things so why would you waste your time with immature upstarts?

Adam · 17-04-2008 03:00PM

Dudess wrote: »

Connundrum of course not every one's a cnut, but it's really hard not to be distrustful if you've had a very bad experience. Mine was: I was 19, he was 29, I was in love with him, thought he was in love with me. It was only a few months but I had never felt so happy... and then I find out he was married. Of course not all guys are like that but when you've been burned... it's a tough one.

Well to be perfectly honest I disagree with such age gaps, more so from the guys perspective than the girls. Girls want older, more mature guys. However, for a guy of 29 to get involved with a 19 year old, it's pretty pathetic and all it says to me is he can't impress anyone his own age so needs to prey on young, vulnerable girls.

The_B_Man · 17-04-2008 03:03PM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I like sandwiches.

which are your favourite? I like club sandwiches!

CKrules wrote: »

B Man,

I'm sure that you're not one of those guys that has "damaged" any girls.

Model bloke eh???

Maybe it's people like who that make girls the way they are.

i've never damaged anyone. And yes, I am a model bloke.

tallaght01 wrote: »

Immature me gee.

The boy has a point. All the nutjobs think they'be grown and learned from past relationships

I was initially inclined to disagree with the OP, but I've met the birds he's brought home, and they were all crazy*

*They were much crazier after he'd dated them, too

Ye....crazy about me!! oooh, burn!!

Dudess wrote: »

But you don't know B Man either, so let's not get personal.

I've no problem accusin me of these things. I'm confident I can stand up against any questions he has, and come through with flying colours. I'm not a pr*ck.

Mirror wrote: »

True, but the same can be true on either side of the spectrum.

Guys tend to get less emotionally attached at that age, and take a break of better. The other side of that coin of course is that because guys are less emotionally attached at that age, they are more likely to be the ones slutting about!

It's a vicious cirlce. Like :pac:

Ah ye,s but im a bloke, so i dont care if blokes are weird! I'm only interested in the lady folk, and this thread is a result of my personal experiences and observations.

I'm not wrong here, and I'm not generalising, as I am focusing on a specific sub-set of the female population.

Adam · 17-04-2008 03:04PM

DarkJager wrote: »

Its not relationships that are ruining women, its all this celebrity sh1t they are constantly getting brainwashed with. Every woman in a club nowadays seems to think she's fcuking Beyonce and they all look at you as if you're a rapist when you try to start a conversation with them. I just tend to ignore them now, my interest in Irish females being practically non existent. There are just so many gorgeous foreign women here now who have a much more mature and less egotistical view on things so why would you waste your time with immature upstarts?

Amen to that! While I haven't gotten involved with a non-national, I agree completely that trying to chat up an Irish girl these days is either like talking to dry ****e or... actually it's mostly just the dry ****e to be honest.

all the stars · 17-04-2008 03:07PM

em, men are not the enemy.
I dont like when my girl friends say to me "men, they are all the same" etc... "only after thing" etc... coz simply put, its not true...
there are a few gems out here ( i have one) and there are a few really nice ladies out here ( that'd be me) who aren't mental or evil or possesive or jealous etc... but based on own experiences with women friends - lots of them do kinda go in for the game playing.. pity - they are only messing up their chances of getting on with someone..

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