Pat Kenny - A squatter?

Dinter · 16-04-2008 02:07PM

BigglesMcGee wrote: »

My Parents have a piece of land that is too much of a pain to keep tidy. They have let the neighbour use it for free for the last few years for their sheep and not even thought about getting access to it.

Well no things have chnged. They are going to have to collect rent or kick the neighbour off now. And they dont really want to do either. The neighbour will feel like my parents think they are potential Kennys', which is not what my parents think at all, but now need to protect themselves.

If Kenny can one day put a gate up and decide the land is his after the neighbour let him use it in good faith for years then there is somthing wrong with the law.

Kenny is just a bare faced scumbag.

Ah I wouldn't worry about it Biggles. It's not as simple to claim adverse possession as one might think reading the stories about Kenny.

Your parents have given your neighbours permission to use the land. Therefore the neighbours are not building up title by simply using it. Their possession has not come at the detriment of your parents. I.e. they have not fenced it off and your family are quite entitled to use it without needing a key or "permission" from the neighbours.

However if they begin to maintain the land, planting hedges, lawn, fencing etc then they are beginning to show a propriety interest in it. If this occurs make sure that any lock on the gate is put there by yourselves.

Overall though you've no reason to worry. It is complicated to explain properly without having specifics but from what you've described the land is just being used rather than as an attempt to quash your title.

At the end of the day you've got 12 years to sort it out in! If you are worried PM me details and I'll get back to you.

Stercus Accidit · 16-04-2008 02:08PM

Where is Pat Kenny worse?
on the TV, or on the radio?
Neither, in your garden.

Why shouldn't you let Pat Kenny use your toilet?
If he squats on it he may claim its his.

Why is it a good thing to listen to Pat on the radio?
You know he isnt on your property.

Who owns RTE?
Pat Kenny, he's been there longer than 12 years.

oh new one,

Why cant the guards stop Pat Kenny sh1tting in public?
Squatters rights.

Dennis the Stone · 16-04-2008 02:24PM

International Squatter's Symbol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/CircleN.svg/180px-CircleN.svg.png

Pat can paint it on all of his suits

pirelli · 16-04-2008 02:54PM

Adverse possession is a law. People might have views on that but it is still a law and an international law which has been very carefully considered. Pat Kenny described Mr Charltons descriptions of their friendship -walking unannounced into each others house- as fanciful.

Neither comment was made under oath but on the balance of probabilities I would probably believe Pat Kenny.

* The plan view photo's from the newspapers do show a case for adversial possession in that Kenny had almost exclusive access to the land. Pat Kenny used the that land for 17 years as a bird sanctuary - ahem- .

This makes it less of a squatters rights case and more exclusive rights which is very different kettle of fish.

If the Charltons also used the land surely squatters rights doesn't apply ...otherwise I might as well walk into my neighbours garden and stick a bird house up for them and help them with their flower bed while i'm at it..

Mr Kenny should have bid for the Charltons house also as Mr Charlton has implied more or less that it was quite the norm for the family to find Pat Kenny eating cornflakes - his own variety pack - in the morning unannounced over the year's.

niceirishfella · 16-04-2008 03:01PM

I'd say Pat will soon have his plans ready to go into the Council for that piece of scrub land.

Dennis the Stone · 16-04-2008 03:15PM

News just in: Pat Kenny is claiming Tibet as his own. He grew a few shrubs there back in 1895

Zzippy · 16-04-2008 04:13PM

Tago Mago wrote: »

News just in: Pat Kenny is claiming Tibet as his own. He grew a few shrubs there back in 1895

Maybe the Chinese will take him out so, and do us all a big favour...

Cool_CM · 16-04-2008 05:23PM

Anybody up for some cyber squatting?
http://www.patkenny.com/

The Real B-man · 16-04-2008 06:12PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiIsIE8iT28

My Centiments exactly

Victor · 16-04-2008 09:50PM

Al_Fernz wrote: »

Did anybody see the other guy coming out of court yesterday??? He hobbled out with his two daughters linking his arms - making him look like a poor old man.

He's seventy something.

That said, apparently the Plank has turned 60 - getting on.

pirelli wrote: »

* The plan view photo's from the newspapers do show a case for adversial possession in that Kenny had almost exclusive access to the land. Pat Kenny used the that land for 17 years as a bird sanctuary - ahem- .

The picture I've seen on rte.ie is a little misleading - there is a laneway between the Kenny house and the disputed land.

escobar · 16-04-2008 11:11PM

niceirishfella wrote: »

I'd say Pat will soon have his plans ready to go into the Council for that piece of scrub land.

Really....and ruin his nature sanctuary.....I think not

17-04-2008 01:37AM

He'll be after the late late studio next

kowloon · 17-04-2008 01:48AM

BigglesMcGee wrote: »

My Parents have a piece of land that is too much of a pain to keep tidy. They have let the neighbour use it for free for the last few years for their sheep and not even thought about getting access to it.

Well no things have chnged. They are going to have to collect rent or kick the neighbour off now. And they dont really want to do either. The neighbour will feel like my parents think they are potential Kennys', which is not what my parents think at all, but now need to protect themselves.

All you need to do is store some of your property on the land, put a shed there or something, then squatters rights couldn't be claimed as you're using it.
Or rent it out for a cent with the neighbours signature.

kowloon · 17-04-2008 02:02AM

The Real B-man wrote: »

My Centiments exactly

Nice one

ibuprofen · 17-04-2008 12:11PM

You're all missing the point. Think of how the fox/s and birds who live on the land will feel after this agreement. God bless Pat

challenges · 13-07-2011 07:29PM

Dinter wrote: »

Ah I wouldn't worry about it Biggles. It's not as simple to claim adverse possession as one might think reading the stories about Kenny.

Your parents have given your neighbours permission to use the land. Therefore the neighbours are not building up title by simply using it. Their possession has not come at the detriment of your parents. I.e. they have not fenced it off and your family are quite entitled to use it without needing a key or "permission" from the neighbours.

However if they begin to maintain the land, planting hedges, lawn, fencing etc then they are beginning to show a propriety interest in it. If this occurs make sure that any lock on the gate is put there by yourselves.

Overall though you've no reason to worry. It is complicated to explain properly without having specifics but from what you've described the land is just being used rather than as an attempt to quash your title.

At the end of the day you've got 12 years to sort it out in! If you are worried PM me details and I'll get back to you.

Please please help. I have been obtaining rent from a commercial property for many many years. I legally own half the property... my uncle died in 2006 and left me the other half. However a later will made in the UK revoked the Irish will. So how am I fixed with adverse possession? The beneficaries of the UK will are in some cases deceased, some have signed discalimers and some have done nothing. The executors and the solicitor looking aftter the UK will have made no claim or exectuted any steps to possess it. THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

mikemac · 13-07-2011 07:31PM

Legal forum for you, head over there

The Master · 13-07-2011 07:36PM

yes, legal forum

Pat Kenny - A squatter?

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