Metal Gear Solid - What's the big deal?

superweld · 15-04-2008 09:04PM #1

so what's the big deal with this series?

i've never bought one before so i'm just wondering what exactly people like about them,

is it a great single player game.... great story and game play or is there a great multiplayer?

i hear it is full of cut scenes too. is the single player game very playable?

i'm just wondering what exactly people like about this series. e.g call of duty has great graphics and gameplay and an outstanding multiplayer.
what can one expect from MGS? to be honest the trailers don't really sell it as much as people who are looking forward to it

Helix · 15-04-2008 09:31PM

not much imo

never saw the attraction

15-04-2008 10:33PM

superweld wrote: »

so what's the big deal with this series?

i've never bought one before so i'm just wondering what exactly people like about them,

is it a great single player game.... great story and game play or is there a great multiplayer?

i hear it is full of cut scenes too. is the single player game very playable?

i'm just wondering what exactly people like about this series. e.g call of duty has great graphics and gameplay and an outstanding multiplayer.
what can one expect from MGS? to be honest the trailers don't really sell it as much as people who are looking forward to it

There was an awful lot of cut-scenes and the likes(lot of stuff on your telecommunication device(dont know what you'd call it?)) but i think it add's to the game, they always have a great story behind it so you feel like your involved in an interactive movie. However there is still tonnes of gameplay, longer then your adverage game (which is about 6-7 hours).

Was reading about this game lately, they said theres so much in this game that you might'nt discover somethings for months if not even YEARS:eek:. Also said that there are possibilites with downloadable content for TEN YEARS(that would mean playing this game at the age of 32:eek:), that's not a definite just thats a possibility if needed!.

It's looking like been a game like GTA where you could play it 10 times and do a mission 10 differant ways!. your stuck in the middle of a battlefield and you can either become involved or not, if you do, you can help one side and they'll be disposable to your advantage!.

The multiplayer is looking like been a great bonus that you would have been happy(with the game)even without

All in all while im waiting eagerly for this to arrive i can easily wait, however waiting for GTA 4 is becoming very painful and im counting the days and hours!!

estebancambias · 15-04-2008 10:35PM

I find it generally an enjoyable game, but would never be excited about a release or new series.

x keo21 · 15-04-2008 10:35PM

imo the big deal about mgs is the first mgs for the ps1. that game was seriously good.

It was the game that took the ps1 to the next level, graphics, story,gameplay it had it

all. However more recent attempts have i beleive tried to recapture that feel and

largley failed, mostly through poor story and lack of invention (and yes snake eater was

gimicy at best), together with those 'extended' cut scenes that drew away any play in

the game.

Basically, the big deal is people wanting that nostalgic fell back, me included, so

there will always be that expectation surrounding a mgs game.

whiterebel · 15-04-2008 11:19PM

Have to agree. MGS1 wass mindblowing. 2 was a severe disappointment with the amount of cut scenes. I got 3 a while ago, thinking I should brush up with 4 around the corner. I am so disappointed, I really wonder now what was so good. Splinter Cell is so much better. Even saving in MGS3 is tedious....."have you seen Godzilla, Snake?"
"Oh, f**k off and save it, you silly bint.........." Well, that's what i'd have him saying, anyway

ironictoaster · 15-04-2008 11:34PM

MGS was always good for it's story and gameplay. MGS 1 and 2 wore excellent, but 3 had its up and downs. I suggest playing a previous mgs and see if you like it.

ironictoaster · 15-04-2008 11:40PM

whiterebel wrote: »

Have to agree. MGS1 wass mindblowing. 2 was a severe disappointment with the amount of cut scenes. I got 3 a while ago, thinking I should brush up with 4 around the corner. I am so disappointed, I really wonder now what was so good. Splinter Cell is so much better. Even saving in MGS3 is tedious....."have you seen Godzilla, Snake?"
"Oh, f**k off and save it, you silly bint.........." Well, that's what i'd have him saying, anyway

But even saying in the previous games, saving wore like that..Anytime you save the with Rose, Mei Ling or Para-Medic. You always got some long discussion..

Splinter Cell is so much better.

Get out!!

16-04-2008 12:26AM

whiterebel wrote: »

Splinter Cell is so much better.

:eek: Are you mental! Metal gear has it's faults but the splinter cell series is just woeful in comparison. Graphics/gameplay/AI/story are all infinitely better in the metal gear series.

Dont be at yourself · 16-04-2008 07:42AM

The Metal Gear Solid series is, to my mind, the pinnacle of videogaming. They're pigeonholed in the action/stealth genre, but they're peerless - head and shoulders above other games in the genre. The game mechanics are so highly tuned and so polished that they never infuriate the gamer. More importantly, the pacing is superb. Whereas most other action games offer just that - relentless action - Kojima appreciates that to enjoy the thrills of combat, there also needs to be a lull to build tension. It's the antethesis to Halo's '30 Seconds of fun' model.

People always lay into the games because they're cutscenes heavy. However, the cutscenes are directed with real flair, and they - largely - impart interesting messages, that I feel they add to the experience. The storylines are often convoluted, but they're also hugely ambitious and groundbreaking. That has to be commended, when seemingly every other game is happy enough to recycle the Space Marine Vs. Monsters storyline from Doom.

Vyse · 16-04-2008 07:43AM

Have to agree, I think Splinter Cell is far better than MGS. I played through all of MGS2 and thought that it was okay. Later I got the Twin Snakes for the GC and thought it was terrible. I assume it had a much greater impact when it was originally released on the PS1 but I just couldn't get into it on the GC.

gloobag · 16-04-2008 08:12AM

Vyse wrote: »

Later I got the Twin Snakes for the GC and thought it was terrible.

You deserve a slap for that!!! :eek:

Otacon · 16-04-2008 08:36AM

Vyse wrote: »

Have to agree, I think Splinter Cell is far better than MGS. I played through all of MGS2 and thought that it was okay. Later I got the Twin Snakes for the GC and thought it was terrible. I assume it had a much greater impact when it was originally released on the PS1 but I just couldn't get into it on the GC.

gloobag wrote: »

You deserve a slap for that!!! :eek:

I have to agree partially with Vyse. Twin Snakes, imo, is inferior to the PS1 version of MGS. In TS, they kept the same overall map as the PS1 version, however, this did not supplement the new gameplay elements. The cutscenes were also way too over the top for my liking.

MGS, for me, has always been about story and gameplay and nothing I have played has come close to MGS1 in that regard (perhaps after the first hour in MGS3)

As for MGS4, from the videos and previews I have read, the gameplay has taken a big jump forward, adding a movable FPS view, Octocam etc. and the story will provide closure to the series. I, for one, will be getting this on launch day.

superweld · 16-04-2008 08:40AM

some split views there. i expected an overwhelming positive repsonse as this new MGS has been hyped for quite a while as THE playstation3 game. think i'll stick with GTAIV anyway as i know i'll get MONTHS of play out of it.

Ciaran500 · 16-04-2008 08:46AM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

The game mechanics are so highly tuned and so polished that they never infuriate the gamer.

Have to disagree, got MGS 3 awhile ago and it took ages for me to get used to the controls. I got to the base after travelling across the mountains (can't remember the name) and I was still making mistakes with the controls

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

People always lay into the games because they're cutscenes heavy. However, the cutscenes are directed with real flair,

One of the biggest annoyances of the cut scenes. They feel like they pretentious twaddle, every single move and action is over done. You can almost hear the characters saying look how ****ing cool am while I just stand here staring ahead and the camera looks at me from an extreme angle.:cool:

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

The storylines are often convoluted, but they're also hugely ambitious and groundbreaking.

Convoluted is an understatement, they bombard you with names and information that could be left out and when you do get to the big twist in the game you're left lost.

whiterebel · 16-04-2008 09:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

:eek: Are you mental! Metal gear has it's faults but the splinter cell series is just woeful in comparison. Graphics/gameplay/AI/story are all infinitely better in the metal gear series.

I must be obviously. Graphically SC is far superior to me than MGS 3. I can't believe how annoying to was to start playing MGS3 recently, it looks to have aged so badly, but that may be due to the PS3 heavyweights like CoD4 spoiling me. I'll be leaving it a while to see what reviews it gets.

Helix · 16-04-2008 10:48AM

sure the reviews will all say its amazing, whether it is or not

same for gta4, it could be a complete turkey and still get 10/10s all over the place purely coz of the time and effort the respective publications/websites put into the game pre release

whiterebel · 16-04-2008 10:59AM

Exactly. I'll wait to see what people here think of it.

Dakeyras · 16-04-2008 02:43PM

I'm a huge fan of metal gear. It's all about the stealth at the end of the day. I recently went back to playing MGS3 as a warm up for MGS4 around the corner and while the graphics do pale in comparison to COD4 it certainly doesnt look like MGS4 will. I still found the game hugely enjoyable and I havent been near it in years, some of the cut scenes i did skip but thats because i'd seen them before.

The game is all about staying unseen as much as possible though undoubtebly there'll be some shootouts and of course the obligatory boss battles which is what I love, ads a suspense to moving around rather than going guns blazing from place to place. I'm about halfway through MGS3 this time and still finding it lots of fun.

The other great thing is the amount of unlockables and camos you could get, always good for a few playthroughs.

So MGS4 is definetly one of my must haves this year without a doubt.

Funbags Freddie · 16-04-2008 07:00PM

I have no doubt that MGS has been surpassed at this stage but at the time it was the bollix. I bought my little brother the game for crimbo one year.

We played it from start to finnish over a few days. We enjoyed every minute of it and the cut scenes enhanced the game but the game play and flow were something else, back in the day of course.

It was the little things. At one stage after a sniper mission we decided to use some ammo blowing away some rats that were crawling around on the catwalks in the distance. All of a sudden the radio crakles into life and the boss dude reminds us that we are not here to waste time shooting the rats.

Pure class

Hell even the box became involved in the game

steviec · 16-04-2008 09:16PM

MGS has gameplay unlike any other game. Yes, it's primarily a stealth game but it doesn't take itself too seriously and always gives you a large arsenal of innovative ways to approach a problem, which, combined with the great enemy AI (not too stupid, not too intelligent, just perfect to have fun with) makes for a brilliant gameplay experience with tons of replayability. And that's before you even mention the boss battles, which I think are probably the best boss battles of any 3D game series I can think of.

On top of this you have excellent characters and dialogue which also help keep you're interest as you make your way through the game. The plot is convoluted and I rarely understand half of it (there's a lot of complex back story to it), but that never really matters because the conversations between characters are really well written and humorous and always keep you interested in what's happening right now, even if you're unsure of the overall story arc.

The game never had an online component traditionally, though they experimented with it in the MGS3 special edition and the PSP game but I never tried them. I'm very interested in seeing what the online play in MGS4 is like however, since the variety of Metal Gear's moves and tactics is vastly superior to the likes of Call of Duty or Halo so it could make for a fascinating game.

robbingood · 16-04-2008 09:22PM

excellent gameplay.great storyline.tons and tons of replay value.nuff said

seraphimvc · 16-04-2008 10:37PM

its because the decency of a video game!!and the gaming perfection...

wow,one sentence finish off my opinion of MGS series!thanks OP!

seraphimvc · 16-04-2008 10:40PM

whiterebel wrote: »

I must be obviously. Graphically SC is far superior to me than MGS 3. I can't believe how annoying to was to start playing MGS3 recently, it looks to have aged so badly, but that may be due to the PS3 heavyweights like CoD4 spoiling me. I'll be leaving it a while to see what reviews it gets.

OMG,tbh,i never play SC except the pandaro box something on PC but MGS2/3 is fully pushing ps2 to its limit....unless you are saying SC on x360 compare to ps2 games...or else...that's nonsense!

ironictoaster · 16-04-2008 10:51PM

Can someone explain to how MGS has replay value? I found MGS3 slightly annoying as you got to keep pausing the game change camo etc. I hope MGS4 isn't exactly like that.

whiterebel · 16-04-2008 10:54PM

seraphimvc wrote: »

OMG,tbh,i never play SC except the pandaro box something on PC but MGS2/3 is fully pushing ps2 to its limit....unless you are saying SC on x360 compare to ps2 games...or else...that's nonsense!

No idea what you're saying, TBH. On a PS2, or PS3 Splinter Cell looks far better then MGS3. There.

seraphimvc · 16-04-2008 10:59PM

creggy wrote: »

Can someone explain to how MGS has replay value? I found MGS3 slightly annoying as you got to keep pausing the game change camo etc. I hope MGS4 isn't exactly like that.

lol i normally played msg games twice:

1)MK22 through the game
2)rambo style through the game by picking up all easter eggs/secrets(lots of secrets...)
while for MGS3 i get addicted by the CQC,i was trying 0 kills through a game....

they have boss fights special too,can easily kill your time on replay them...

it seems snake got a octocamo in MGS4,no more changing camo i guess...

conzy · 16-04-2008 11:11PM

MGS is amazing, When my friend got MGS: Sons of Liberty for his PS2 we literally played it for months, then I got a PS2 and MGS:Substance and played it for a few more months!

Went back and played the original MGS for psone then and it aged very well, it was still an incredible experience...

Splinter Cell is "meh" at best and to compare it to MGS is just insulting tbh...

The bit in MGS:Sons of Liberty where the Colonel tells you to turn off the console, me and my friend were like WTF?! and we actually turned it off

( we were 11 mkay?!) Never played a game that came close to the immersiveness and sheer awesomeness of MGS, maybe the Half Life series

seraphimvc · 16-04-2008 11:24PM

whiterebel wrote: »

No idea what you're saying, TBH. On a PS2, or PS3 Splinter Cell looks far better then MGS3. There.

i meant i have played the SC:pandora tomorrow on PC.

mgs2 or 3 are the max performance ps2 games(while mgs3 obviously above the level of mgs2).ok,maybe not the 100% max,but at least above 90% of the ps2 performance,we cant find many game can be equal or above that level of graphic.If you say SC looks FAR better than mgs3,doesnt make sense eh?

unless you have the eyes of eagle or you have only been playing the forest part of mgs3 for 15mins.The forest scenes in mgs3 is one of the most complicated graphic i have ever seen.plants,flowers,leaves,rivers,animals all over the place and you can do it in 1st person or 3rd person view anytime in Real Time...and the greatest part of the game is,the enemies can really camo in the forest too:Dfinding them is a funny task!too much to say for the game.ah i am gonna revise my mgs3 vs The END :P

ironictoaster · 16-04-2008 11:24PM

seraphimvc wrote: »

lol i normally played msg games twice:

1)MK22 through the game
2)rambo style through the game by picking up all easter eggs/secrets(lots of secrets...)
while for MGS3 i get addicted by the CQC,i was trying 0 kills through a game....

they have boss fights special too,can easily kill your time on replay them...

it seems snake got a octocamo in MGS4,no more changing camo i guess...

I know I you gotta change pause the game for camo, they done it in the gameplay at TGS. I just hope you dont need to be doing it every 2 seconds.

Meh, I dont have the patience to collect easter eggs or shoot them little aleins. hehehe.

seraphimvc · 16-04-2008 11:29PM

conzymaher wrote: »

MGS is amazing, When my friend got MGS: Sons of Liberty for his PS2 we literally played it for months, then I got a PS2 and MGS:Substance and played it for a few more months!

Went back and played the original MGS for psone then and it aged very well, it was still an incredible experience...

Splinter Cell is "meh" at best and to compare it to MGS is just insulting tbh...

The bit in MGS:Sons of Liberty where the Colonel tells you to turn off the console, me and my friend were like WTF?! and we actually turned it off ( we were 11 mkay?!) Never played a game that came close to the immersiveness and sheer awesomeness of MGS, maybe the Half Life series

rofl seems like i am lucky didnt turn off the console!but i got caught by the fake GAME OVER scene lol

ah yes,the genius humour is one of the best in gaming history!i laugh so hard when i find the way to beat Psychomantis by switching the c********r

and beating the the sorrow ,ah and the classic THE END killed by adjusting the clock lol genius kojima!!!

Metal Gear Solid - What's the big deal?

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