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Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    This thread should be renamed "LFC Chat and Pointless, Moronic & Inane Sh*te Depository."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Of course the fact that Arsenal have taken 7 points (yes seven) from their last 8 league games shouldn't negate the fact that they are a better team than Liverpool ;)

    But if Liverpool do come 3rd, it will only be because Wenger put out the young fellas for the last 4 games...

    I love it, more please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    zAbbo wrote: »
    Of course the fact that Arsenal have taken 7 points (yes seven) from their last 8 league games shouldn't negate the fact that they are a better team than Liverpool ;)

    But if Liverpool do come 3rd, it will only be because Wenger put out the young fellas for the last 4 games...

    I love it, more please.
    Do you think Liverpool are a better team than Arsenal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    kryogen wrote: »
    maybe there is little to split the clubs...but its painstakingly obvious which team was a title contender at the business end of the season isnt it.

    The business end being after 26 games? I'd consider the business end to be the last 3rd or 4th part of the season.

    As stated above, Arsenal have taken 7 points in the last 8 games, hardly championship form.

    Coincidentally, Liverpool have take 19 points from the last 8 games :)

    But you can twist and interpret all these stats any way you want (as I have), I guess the proof is after 38 games... (or not as it's being argued here)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Pighead wrote: »
    Do you think Liverpool are a better team than Arsenal?

    I support Liverpool, so I can't answer that without bias, Arsenal are a good team (damn good) and I like watching them, but I think that the opinion is that if Liverpool finish above them, and have went further in the CL - then they were lucky, but if Arsenal came out on top, then it was deserved.

    Strange logic, so a fairer way is to judge it on trophies/final positions rather than personal opinion.

    They're obviously very close, 4 games played - 3 draws ( all 1-1) and one win to Liverpool in a knock-out cup indicates that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Heard a bit off a mate in Liverpool about the whole Parry vs Yanks issue:

    "Benitez threatening to resign if Parry isn't dismissed

    If Parry is dismissed Hicks will have power of veto at board room level

    DIC will back Benitez if they take control of the club so they don't want RB to get him or Parry into a position where one of them has to go

    Basically the balance is very precarious - as the validity of the rumours may well be."

    ----

    Sounds like a royal mess!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Pighead wrote: »
    Do you think Liverpool are a better team than Arsenal?

    Hang on. Everyone on here constantly harps on that the league is the test of a team and the table doesnt lie. So if we end up finishig above Arsenal for the 3rd season in a row, then yes, yes we are.

    Attractive , losing football doesnt mean you are a good team.

    If Utd were in the exact position Liverpool are and have been over the last 3 seasons, there woudlnt be a debate that they are better than Arsenal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    If Arsenal burning out and Liverpool possibly catching them means that Arsenal are still the better team.

    What does United catching them and passing them out over the exact same period and subsequently winning the league mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    If Liverpool finish ahead of Arsenal they had a better season. Sure Arsenal challenged for a large part of the season but their run of form is alarming and should never happen to a team wanting to be considered champions.

    As for Liverpool doing better once the pressure of a title challenge was over, well being chased by your local rivals for months for a spot in the CL which means so much because of the clubs financial position is hardly a walk in the park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Stky10


    "Benitez threatening to resign if Parry isn't dismissed

    I can't see this being the reality to be honest. Rafa is too much of a politician to potentially muck things up like this. Hicks may be full of bluster, but with the trouble the US banks are in (see link) and his businesses being so highly leveraged already, its much more likely that the cash rich DIC will take over sooner rather than later. Longer term as well, Rafa is more likely to be backed in the transfer market by DIC than by Hicks as they've got much deeper pockets and are much more keen on success rather than mid table mediocrity like Hicks's american teams. Rafa surely sees this like most other people and won't rock the boat. What he will do probably though is use this to gain more power in transfer negotiations this summer which is fair enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Let's say one of the best Kenyan runners in the world decides to enter the London marathon and ends up falling short at the final stretch and decides "f*ck it I've lost now" and decides to drop out. Meanwhile someone who decided to enter the marathon for the fun of it, manages to go on and finishes the race. Does that make the person who finished a better runner than the lad who had actually been in contention to win the thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Let's say one of the best Kenyan runners in the world decides to enter the London marathon and ends up falling short at the final stretch and decides "f*ck it I've lost now" and decides to drop out. Meanwhile someone who decided to enter the marathon for the fun of it, manages to go on and finishes the race. Does that make the person who finished a better runner than the lad who had actually been in contention to win the thing?

    Hardly the final stretch, they have been brutal since game 26


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Hardly the final stretch, they have been brutal since game 26

    Their title challenge made it to April though which is more than can be said for Liverpool's.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    PiE wrote: »
    This thread should be renamed "LFC Chat and Pointless, Moronic & Inane Sh*te Depository."

    hey!
    i renamed this thread along time ago to "Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion / Imagination Land 2007/2008"

    and this forum is called "Liverpool Vs. Manchester United featuring the Eircom League"


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 933 ✭✭✭dardoz


    the point made wasn't that Arsenal were better but that mounting a title challenge for the most part of the season would be deemed a more successful season rather than being also rans the whole season which we were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭stick-dan


    Cannot confirm the validity of this but it's a nice thought if true.
    Phil Hammond, chairman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group (HFSG), today announced that plans are in motion for a charity-match between Liverpool and Celtic to mark the 20th Anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster next year.
    “We’ve sat down with (chief executive) Rick Parry, myself, Kenny and Marina Dalglish and spoken about having a match here at Anfield.” said Hammond.

    “The first game Liverpool played after the disaster was against Celtic (in a friendly) so we are trying to get those two teams together to play here.” he added.


    There is a rumour in the pipeline that for the 20th anniversary of hillsborough next year there will be a charity match being held in anfield featuring Liverpool against Celtic. The reason for choosing celtic to mark the occasion was because as i'm sure ya know the first game liverpool played after the disaster was a friendly against celtic if i remember correctly. Nice thought if it's true anyway.

    r.i.p the 96


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,079 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    stick-dan wrote: »
    There is a rumour in the pipeline that for the 20th anniversary of hillsborough next year there will be a charity match being held in anfield featuring Liverpool against Celtic. The reason for choosing celtic to mark the occasion was because as i'm sure ya know the first game liverpool played after the disaster was a friendly against celtic if i remember correctly. Nice thought if it's true anyway.

    r.i.p the 96
    That would definitely be a very nice thing to do. Hopefully proceeds will go to the HFSG and the HJC.
    RIP the 96.
    YNWA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,474 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    On days like this I don't give a tuppenyfúck who owns the club.

    96 people.


    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    quick reminder a hillsborough documentry about to start on LFC TV and available to all viewers no subscription needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,079 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    This is a link to an article published in The Guardian newspaper on April 17th 1989, just two days after the tragedy. Given the disgraceful reporting that was done in certain other rags, this is an excellent piece of writing. The third last paragraph is the most hard-hitting for me:
    Just after five o'clock, when in normal circumstances the winners would have been celebrating their success in reaching Wembley or the game would have been well into extra-time, a young couple wandered dazed across the deserted pitch - the woman in tears, the man comforting her in a numbed sort of way. The poignancy of that moment only hardened the opinion that the worst tragedy in British sport had been the most avoidable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    Go gcasfar le chéile sinn arís,
    go gcoinní Dia i mbosa a láimhe thú.

    Nice tribute here..

    http://www.servecast.com/downloads/liverpoolfc/preview/preview_01_hillsborough_high.wmv


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Those poor souls, RIP the 96.

    I was 9 years of age watching that in my Grannies house, I'll never forget it.

    May God rest them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,097 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Posted on another forum. Torres has scored against 15 of the 19 Premiership teams.

    1. Chelsea – 1 (league)
    2. Arsenal -1(CL)
    3. Everton – 1 (league)
    4. Pompey – 2 (league)
    5. Blackburn – 1 (league)
    6. Westham – 3 (league)
    7. Spurs – 1 (league)
    8. Newcastle – 1 (league)
    9. Middlesbrough – 4 (league)
    10. Sunderland – 1 (league)
    11. Wigan – 1 (league)
    12. Reading – 1+ 3 (league/ Carling Cup)
    13. Bolton – 1 (league)
    14. Fulham – 1 (League)
    15. Derby – 3 (league)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    So that leaves Birmingham & Man City left this season.
    The two he hasn't scored against Villa and Man Utd. Posibility still there for him to score against United if results in the CL go that way ;).

    Have been very impressed by him this year, anyone know how many league games he missed earlier in the season.
    One thing that baffles me is, the majority of PL goals have been at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,461 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Justice for the 96.

    YNWA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    DeadSkin wrote: »
    anyone know how many league games he missed earlier in the season.
    Everton away (Oct)
    Blackburn away (Nov)
    Chelsea away (Feb)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Everton away (Oct)
    Blackburn away (Nov)
    Chelsea away (Feb)

    Ah he wouldn't have scored so, them being away games :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,426 ✭✭✭✭event


    DeadSkin wrote: »
    One thing that baffles me is, the majority of PL goals have been at home.

    i read the other day that 20 were at home and 16 into the kop end (think that was the numbers anyway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    DeadSkin wrote: »
    Ah he wouldn't have scored so, them being away games :p
    Haha, was thinking the same!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    DeadSkin wrote: »
    Ah he wouldn't have scored so, them being away games :p

    Classic :pac:


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