Why does drink turn some people into idiots?

godtabh · 13-04-2008 04:03AM #1

I've been out to night and have had a few pints with a few friends. On a nite link now and the amount of people smoking on it is unreal. These are probably the same people who if they were on the bus going to work on a Monday morning would've enough cop on not to be smoking.

That’s just an example of the crap we see on a typical Saturday night.

I would be delighted if they brought in the same sort of control they have on the sale of drink in the likes of Iceland. Wouldn’t affect me that much but I'm sure there would be a generation of young people who would be totally put out by it.

A bit of a rant but the replies I get I'm sure I’m will make it all worth while!

I’ll correct the spelling mistakes and what not tomorrow

monkeyfudge · 13-04-2008 04:06AM

If smoking is the worst thing you see on your Nitelink then you must have a very nice Nitelink.

bronte · 13-04-2008 04:06AM

Had a trip home on the shytelink tonight myself. Bit of aggro upstairs with a few drunken folk. Wish I coulda afforded a taxi!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-04-2008 04:09AM

The latinians called it "In Vino Veritas" or something.

Basically, people who act a certain way when pissed are that way. They just have don't act that way when sober because social protocol and basic inhibitions get in the way.

With alcohol, such concerns are dulled. Which means that people who are happy when pissed are happy when sober. People who are depressed when pissed are depressed when sober (but hide it).

People who act like arrogant little sh1ts when they're pissed are arrogant also arrogant little sh1ts when they're sober, but know better than to act that way.

cournioni · 13-04-2008 04:14AM

Drink is nothing, you should see certain people change when they're on coke...

godtabh · 13-04-2008 04:15AM

monkeyfudge wrote: »

If smoking is the worst thing you see on your Nitelink then you must have a very nice Nitelink.

It wasnt but its probably the thing that pissed me off the most as its the thing that affected me the most. Its a simple thing that changes when you add drink

Dudess · 13-04-2008 04:18AM

I wanted to get drunk to the point of idiocy tonight but no matter how much I drank, I couldn't reach my goal...

Dehydrated as fukk now.

godtabh · 13-04-2008 04:22AM

Dudess wrote: »

I wanted to get drunk to the point of idiocy tonight but no matter how much I drank, I couldn't reach my goal...

Dehydrated as fukk now.

Thats the advice I got a few weeks ago after a break up but I didnt see the point.

As homer says alcohol the cause of and solution to all lives problems

Rb · 13-04-2008 09:26AM

Dudess wrote: »

I wanted to get drunk to the point of idiocy tonight but no matter how much I drank, I couldn't reach my goal...

Dehydrated as fukk now.

Ooh, time for a game of "Guess which one is Dudess' thread" in PI

Caoimhín · 13-04-2008 09:34AM

Is there any real scientific research into why some ethnic groups simply cant handle the alcohol, I'm thinking Irish, Japanese, Northern Europeans?? Is there a historical reason for this, genetic maybe. Why must we over indulge (guilty myself at times btw) where as others can take it or leave it.
I know I'm generalising.

Rb · 13-04-2008 09:40AM

caoibhin wrote: »

Is there any real scientific research into why some ethnic groups simply cant handle the alcohol, I'm thinking Irish, Japanese, Northern Europeans?? Is there a historical reason for this, genetic maybe. Why must we over indulge (guilty myself at times btw) where as others can take it or leave it.
I know I'm generalising.

It's not scientific, it's to do with the culture/attitude towards alcohol in the country.

Here, people have access to drink young and start binge drinking because it's "great fun". They bring it in to adulthood, don't grow the f*ck up about it, and drink themselves into a mess as often as they can. We've a binge drinking culture in this country which has been brought through from youth and will probably be passed on to the next generation unless something is done about it.

Probably a similar situation in Japan, though of course they're naturally smaller and lighter and have different diets to us so they probably just get píssed a lot quicker than us.

SimpleSam06 · 13-04-2008 09:43AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Basically, people who act a certain way when pissed are that way.

I don't think thats true. Alcohol is essentially a poison, and drinking over a few days in the same week makes a complete mess of your sleep cycles. So what you have is irritated, half poisoned, sleep deprived dehydrated people running around with reduced control over their higher functions (and often only partial control of their basc functions). This is hardly representative of the way a person "really" is.

The in vino veritas phrase is a reference to the way that the brain becomes lazier when drunk, and so is less likely to concoct a convincing lie. A lot of "truth serums" work the same way.

aidan_walsh · 13-04-2008 09:47AM

It's not scientific, it's to do with the culture/attitude

I sure hope there are no sociologists reading this.

Hagar · 13-04-2008 09:47AM

Drink doesn't turn people into idiots, it just reveals them for what they are.
Many of them, when they are sober, manage to conceal it.

Irish Halo · 13-04-2008 10:04AM

caoibhin wrote: »

Is there any real scientific research into why some ethnic groups simply cant handle the alcohol

I've heard the stories that Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians can't handle alcohol because of their genes and as an excuse to limit the sale of it to these "primitives" (it is always framed that way) but have never seen any science to back it up and believe it is just low level racism.

Hagar wrote: »

Drink doesn't turn people into idiots, it just reveals them for what they are.
Many of them when they are sober manage to conceal it.

This is true.

Dun laoire · 13-04-2008 10:09AM

I remember seeing our milkman in a nightclub and i told him he was the best milkman in the whole wide world and gave him a big hug.

Crumble Froo · 13-04-2008 11:29AM

Dudess wrote: »

I wanted to get drunk to the point of idiocy tonight but no matter how much I drank, I couldn't reach my goal...

Dehydrated as fukk now.

become sleep deprived the night before, fail to eat teh day of, drink double doses in normal time the night of.... enhance with greenery if all else fails....

sorted.

Wertz · 13-04-2008 11:40AM

caoibhin wrote: »

Is there any real scientific research into why some ethnic groups simply cant handle the alcohol, I'm thinking Irish, Japanese, Northern Europeans?? Is there a historical reason for this, genetic maybe. Why must we over indulge (guilty myself at times btw) where as others can take it or leave it.
I know I'm generalising.

There is evidence that among certain ethnic groups, mainly of east Asian origin, a % of the populace have an altered means of production of a bodily enzyme called ADH, which leads to a lowered tolerance level or magnified effects of intoxication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_flush#Explanations
AFAIK it's not a problem we suffer with in the west (in indigenous populations)...as RB says, it's cultural mixed in with a big dollop of stupidity...

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

Latinians...

Romans?

nice1franko · 13-04-2008 12:47PM

rb_ie wrote: »

It's not scientific, it's to do with the culture/attitude towards alcohol in the country.

Here, people have access to drink young and start binge drinking because it's "great fun".

damn right it's great fun.

if you only thnk it's "great fun" then you're doing it wrong

Sherifu · 13-04-2008 01:08PM

nice1franko wrote: »

damn right it's great fun.

if you only thnk it's "great fun" then you're doing it wrong

Hmmm?

Rb · 13-04-2008 01:28PM

nice1franko wrote: »

damn right it's great fun.

if you only thnk it's "great fun" then you're doing it wrong

Grow up.

life_is_music · 13-04-2008 01:31PM

yup people are idiots...........take last night for example I robbed 2 bar stools, 2 framed pictures and 2 shot glasses.

Woke up this morning realising what a retard I am

Dyr · 13-04-2008 02:41PM

Irish Halo wrote: »

I've heard the stories that Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians can't handle alcohol because of their genes and as an excuse to limit the sale of it to these "primitives" (it is always framed that way) but have never seen any science to back it up and believe it is just low level racism.

This is true.

AFAIK a lot of native american reservation thingeys have a self imposed ban on alcohol because it such a problem for them

AckwelFoley · 13-04-2008 03:07PM

Hagar wrote: »

Drink doesn't turn people into idiots, it just reveals them for what they are.
Many of them, when they are sober, manage to conceal it.

This i believe is correct.

I know guys when sober are lovely.. if they have a few pints all they want to do is fight.
My mate is an arguementative dick head with drink.

I turn into a complete horn bag when i drink :rolleyes:

dsmythy · 13-04-2008 03:20PM

Wertz wrote: »

There is evidence that among certain ethnic groups, mainly of east Asian origin, a % of the populace have an altered means of production of a bodily enzyme called ADH, which leads to a lowered tolerance level or magnified effects of intoxication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_flush#Explanations
AFAIK it's not a problem we suffer with in the west (in indigenous populations)...as RB says, it's cultural mixed in with a big dollop of stupidity...

More on genetic variance with regards to East Asian's ability (or lack there of) to intake alcohol.

dsmythy · 13-04-2008 03:21PM

snyper wrote: »

I turn into a complete horn bag when i drink :rolleyes:

You hide that fact when you are sober? :pac:

AckwelFoley · 13-04-2008 03:24PM

dsmythy wrote: »

You hide that fact when you are sober? :pac:

Yes. I try. I strap "it" to the inside of my leg... and i try to be polite to women and not speak as if they are objects :pac:

JavaBear · 13-04-2008 03:29PM

rb_ie wrote: »

Grow up.

Stop putting yourself above other people.. because you're really not.

godtabh · 13-04-2008 06:26PM

JavaBear wrote: »

Stop putting yourself above other people.. because you're really not.

I would've said the same things as rb_ie but he beat me to it.

I really do think the government needs to sort out the control and sale of drink. THe fact that you can buy drink in a petrol station to me is unbelievable

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-04-2008 06:34PM

kearnsr wrote: »

I would've said the same things as rb_ie but he beat me to it.

I really do think the government needs to sort out the control and sale of drink. THe fact that you can buy drink in a petrol station to me is unbelievable

Why so? You think people are going to get some petrol, buy a beer and drink it on the way home?
(Cue Homer - "one for me.... one for you!")

Seriously, this is a cultural thing. Not a governemnt thing. Blaming the government for this is like blaming them for the bad weather. And as soon as they do try to tighten the laws you'll be complaining that it's an infringment on your rights - look at the Good Friday argument.

Drink does not turn people into idiots. They're idiots to start off with.

Wagon · 13-04-2008 06:35PM

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Drink is nothing, you should see certain people change when they're on coke...

Have to agree with that. There was a pair of complete ***** at the back of the 77 on my way into town on friday night, snorting coke and shouting at Romanians, kicking the door of the bus when they got off and generally pissed people off. And it wasn't a nightlink, it was at 8pm. Gay :mad:

Why does drink turn some people into idiots?

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